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Well, since that questions has been answered it's time to move on. Perhaps this person had a bad experience here at BG that is affecting why he does not donate money. That does happen and it happens for a variety of reasons. It could be anything from a bad experience with a professor to a bad experience with an advisor. It could be something that was his fault, or something he had no control over. I am just glad it was given because there are still people out there who feel marching bands are important in college football. Even here at BG we are getting WAY to much "canned crap" comming over the sound system. Let the band play, thats what they work for all week.
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For those that don't know, the Band Room at Ohio Stadium is named for Mrs. Joan Z. Steinbrenner. She is an Upper Arlington native and OSU grad. Most of you have heard of her husband, Mr. George Steinbrenner, owner of the New York Yankees.

He has also given a significant amount over the years, including money for the Bill Davis Stadium for baseball and the Jesse Owens Track and Soccer Stadium.

But we can't all criticize people for not giving to their alma mater or by giving significant sums to their alma mater. Many people want to give money that will have the greatest impact. If the desired impact can't be spelled out by development folks, then they can't get potential donors to give. Walt Dennis, who gave to the OSU Band, knew the impact of having the ENTIRE Band present in Austin, versus part of the band. The OSU Band, as anyone who has ever been in a marching band or on a sports team knows, is one of three or four bands that you want to be a part of, with UM, Notre Dame, probably Grambling State being the others. They have more traditions than the rest of the Big Ten bands have combined. Between two fight songs ("Across the Field" and "Buckeye Battle Cry," "Script Ohio" and dotting the "i", and "Hang on Sloopy," you don't get much better than that. Beyond "Ay Ziggy Zoomba" what does BG have in the way of tradition? I hate to say it, but sometimes I think BG's band is a glorified high school band. While it has a lot of spirit and talent, the marches and performances are sometime lacking.

To continue on, people nowadays aren't always giving to their alma mater for a variety of reasons, many of which have been stated earlier on this subject. Many people give for the sake of supporting the local university, others give because of their ties to that institution, or the interests and relationships they have developed over the years.

Walt Dennis should be applauded for his gift. Perhaps someday, his desire to give to BG will change. It may take a new president, a new dean, or a new person in development to contact him. Don't criticize him. After all, how many of you have actually given a dime to BG other than through athletics or the band?
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cbjhack wrote:The OSU Band, as anyone who has ever been in a marching band or on a sports team knows, is one of three or four bands that you want to be a part of, with UM, Notre Dame, probably Grambling State being the others. They have more traditions than the rest of the Big Ten bands have combined. Between two fight songs ("Across the Field" and "Buckeye Battle Cry," "Script Ohio" and dotting the "i", and "Hang on Sloopy," you don't get much better than that. Beyond "Ay Ziggy Zoomba" what does BG have in the way of tradition? I hate to say it, but sometimes I think BG's band is a glorified high school band. While it has a lot of spirit and talent, the marches and performances are sometime lacking.
1) OSU did not start Script Ohio.
2) Hang on Sloopy is not an original song which the band composed. Just because a band plays it does not mean they're the "originators."
3) You are comparing two COMPLETELY different band styles. OSU is a "military" style only utilizing percussion and brass while the FMB allows woodwinds, brass, drums, etc.
4) OSU's band is filled with a lot of d-bags who think that they're the University.
5) Does the FMB not have tradition, or are you just clueless about the topic at hand? Everyone knows the crap about OSU because it's constantly "showed off" that they know how to spell the state of Ohio's name. Ever think that maybe BG is just a little more modest about they handle things and don't refer to their band as the "Best Damn Band in the Land?"
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BGDrew wrote:5) Does the FMB not have tradition, or are you just clueless about the topic at hand? Everyone knows the crap about OSU because it's constantly "showed off" that they know how to spell the state of Ohio's name. Ever think that maybe BG is just a little more modest about they handle things and don't refer to their band as the "Best Damn Band in the Land?"
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cbjhack wrote:Beyond "Ay Ziggy Zoomba" what does BG have in the way of tradition? I hate to say it, but sometimes I think BG's band is a glorified high school band. While it has a lot of spirit and talent, the marches and performances are sometime lacking.
Hold up..."glorified high school band"?? :evil: You must not have marched a single step in your life. :roll: The traditions that we have aren't as huge when compared to bands like the craptacular OSU or Michigan bands, but we have plenty. I know for a fact that if something were to be drastically changed in say, pre-game...there would be a lot of upset alumni, regardless of whether they were in band or not. Our biggest tradition is that we are known for our symphonic sound. We don't go out on the field and blow out peoples' eardrums. It takes effort and talent, mind you, to get such a wonderful symphonic sound on the field as well as actually march the kind of shows that we do.
cbjhack wrote: The OSU Band, as anyone who has ever been in a marching band or on a sports team knows, is one of three or four bands that you want to be a part of, with UM, Notre Dame, probably Grambling State being the others.
You must not have seen the Pennsylvania State Blue Band neither. They belong in that group as well. I'm also sure that there are a few others that plenty of people would argue should be in that list. But before anyone gets on my case about it, it is all a matter of opinion as well as a current FMB member.
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I knew osu wasn't smart enough to create script ohio. Where did they steal it from... OU?


*Edit: The answer is Michigan.
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Tricky_Falcon wrote:I knew osu wasn't smart enough to create script ohio. Where did they steal it from... OU?


*Edit: The answer is Michigan.
From Michigan?? You're kidding right? That is actually very surprising if it's true. I guess OSU really does want to be exactly like Michigan. :P
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Strouse wrote:
Tricky_Falcon wrote:I knew osu wasn't smart enough to create script ohio. Where did they steal it from... OU?


*Edit: The answer is Michigan.
From Michigan?? You're kidding right? That is actually very surprising if it's true. I guess OSU really does want to be exactly like Michigan. :P
Nope, it's true. Michigan configured it and performed it way back when. The OSU band director also wrote one of the fight songs on the trip back from an 86-0 loss in Ann Arbor.

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BGDrew wrote:
cbjhack wrote:The OSU Band, as anyone who has ever been in a marching band or on a sports team knows, is one of three or four bands that you want to be a part of, with UM, Notre Dame, probably Grambling State being the others. They have more traditions than the rest of the Big Ten bands have combined. Between two fight songs ("Across the Field" and "Buckeye Battle Cry," "Script Ohio" and dotting the "i", and "Hang on Sloopy," you don't get much better than that. Beyond "Ay Ziggy Zoomba" what does BG have in the way of tradition? I hate to say it, but sometimes I think BG's band is a glorified high school band. While it has a lot of spirit and talent, the marches and performances are sometime lacking.
1) OSU did not start Script Ohio.
2) Hang on Sloopy is not an original song which the band composed. Just because a band plays it does not mean they're the "originators."
3) You are comparing two COMPLETELY different band styles. OSU is a "military" style only utilizing percussion and brass while the FMB allows woodwinds, brass, drums, etc.
4) OSU's band is filled with a lot of d-bags who think that they're the University.
5) Does the FMB not have tradition, or are you just clueless about the topic at hand? Everyone knows the crap about OSU because it's constantly "showed off" that they know how to spell the state of Ohio's name. Ever think that maybe BG is just a little more modest about they handle things and don't refer to their band as the "Best Damn Band in the Land?"
I'm not sure he ever stated that these traditions were originated by OSU...and I'm pretty sure the band didn't give themselves that knickname..
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bgsuman wrote:I'm not sure he ever stated that these traditions were originated by OSU...and I'm pretty sure the band didn't give themselves that knickname..
Then why is their website http://tbdbitl.osu.edu/? They sure as hell aren't scared to use the acronym.
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they use it because it has been passed down to them over time.


Are you really trying to compare the BG band to the OSU band? Do not waste your time. The BG band sucks. You can hardly hear them in that small ass stadium, they do not sound very great, their marching formations are worse than my high schools marching formations and the uni's are ugly. they lack tradition.

So what if OSU didnt create script Ohio, they carried it on and made it one of the most famous traditions in college football. its incomparible to anything else that anyone does.

so what if they didn't create hang on sloopy. It is the state song of ohio, they took it and ran with it before anyone else did.

the band members dont think they are the university and so what if they did. They are a major symbol of the universities history.

some other things left off the list were skull session, the entrance down the ramp, playing the neutron dance for the neutron man and continuing that tradition since his death while facing towards where he sat.


There are much more deep in tradition, quality, and symbolism than the BG band.

what traditions does BG band have besides ay-ziggy-zoomba which if you want to be technical was not created by BG since you want to claim the same about some of OSU's traditions?

I went there for 4.5 years and there are NONE.

they march to the stadium, they suck it up and everyone leaves at half time while the band bores everyone some more.

i know i offended some band people on here but there is just no comparison. bgdrew needs to get over jealousy and take some midol
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tekekini wrote:i know i offended some band people on here but there is just no comparison. bgdrew needs to get over jealousy and take some midol
No, I'll just value my degree unlike you. I have no connection to OSU so why should I be impressed by them?
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you dont have to be, but you are so closed minded to realize or accept certain things.

you hate them because you think it is the cool thing to do. you refuse to acknowledge things that a lot of people on here acknowledge about OSU wether they like it or not.

go on abd be closed minded. I bet you do not have many friends. Is that the reason for your deep anger all of the time?
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tekekini wrote:you dont have to be, but you are so closed minded to realize or accept certain things.

you hate them because you think it is the cool thing to do. you refuse to acknowledge things that a lot of people on here acknowledge about OSU wether they like it or not.

go on abd be closed minded. I bet you do not have many friends. Is that the reason for your deep anger all of the time?
I was a Buckeyes fan for 17 years. After finally being exposed to the type of people that are fans and the type of people that go there, I was turned off immediately. I don't hate them because it's the "cool thing to do." I hate them because of the damage they're doing to the educational system in Ohio and the bad name they give college football fans in Ohio. I'm not angry at all, I just can't bring myself to turn my back on the school giving me a degree.

Honor obviously isn't in your vocabulary.
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tekekini wrote:they use it because it has been passed down to them over time.


Are you really trying to compare the BG band to the OSU band? Do not waste your time. The BG band sucks. You can hardly hear them in that small ass stadium, they do not sound very great, their marching formations are worse than my high schools marching formations and the uni's are ugly. they lack tradition.

So what if OSU didnt create script Ohio, they carried it on and made it one of the most famous traditions in college football. its incomparible to anything else that anyone does.

so what if they didn't create hang on sloopy. It is the state song of ohio, they took it and ran with it before anyone else did.

the band members dont think they are the university and so what if they did. They are a major symbol of the universities history.

some other things left off the list were skull session, the entrance down the ramp, playing the neutron dance for the neutron man and continuing that tradition since his death while facing towards where he sat.


There are much more deep in tradition, quality, and symbolism than the BG band.

what traditions does BG band have besides ay-ziggy-zoomba which if you want to be technical was not created by BG since you want to claim the same about some of OSU's traditions?

I went there for 4.5 years and there are NONE.

they march to the stadium, they suck it up and everyone leaves at half time while the band bores everyone some more.

i know i offended some band people on here but there is just no comparison. bgdrew needs to get over jealousy and take some midol
Just some clarrifications tiki...since you are apparently so close-minded and defensive of ohio state I'll try to open your eyes up a little more...
First off, I'll agree with you that there's no comparing osu band to the BG band because of one main reason...in the FMB we actually make music...if during those 4.5 so called years at bg you would've actually stayed in your seat during halftime instead of leaving the stadium to get yourself even more drunk you would've realized that. the osu band is just a wall of sound. they aren't musicians, and before you open your mouth tiki, I'm not refering to a musician as a Music Major, I'm refering to a musician as someone who can pick up any kind of instrument and play music. Osu's sound is terrible, that is the band that the students go to that when they were in high school, they were not taught how to play correctly. The so called small ass stadium known as Doyt L. Perry Stadium is a fine facility. The FMB can be heard just fine in it, even when it's packed full of fans. If you want to get really technical, Ay Ziggy Zoomba was actually a Zulu War Chant. One of the best traditions we have is one we have with the football team. After every home game, the band plays the Alma Mater for the football team, then goes into Ay Ziggy Zoomba followed up by Beer Barrel Polka. OSU band members may not think that they are the university, instead they think that they are the state of Ohio. I was once an OSU hardcore fan. But since attending BGSU, I've seen the light. I neither hate nor like OSU or Michigan for that matter. Instead I'm a hardcore BGSU fan. If you can't stand up for the college that you graduated from, that is really putting down your own degree and that is pretty sad.
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