What I want to see in a coach

[jpfalcon09]

I've always seen Brandon as a guy who has much more bark than bite. I remember when Urban first came here and like 13 players left the team because practices were too tough, and I miss that mentality. Brandon reminds me so much of my high school coach...he always talked a good game to the parents and boosters when push came to shove, but he never put it on the field.

Brandon's always been a guy who's rode the "wait a little bit and see" line, and frankly that line has snapped. He's had plenty of time to recruit his players, establish his "philosophies" and coaching staffs, and whatnot. But like previously stated, BGSU doesn't have a huge athletic budget, so it can't go out and snag a top notch coach. My ideas for a good replacement: any high school coach with success. In high school, I think it's much difficult to deal with turnover because you can't always score the best athletes. I wouldn't mind seeing McKinley's coach, someone like that step in...to me it can't get any worse than what it is right now.

[hammb]

contract heading into what looks like two very promising years in 07 and 08

What, may I ask, has you thinking that '07 & '08 are so promising? Really, I'm curious. There is a lot of youth on this team, I'll agree with Brandon & everyone else on that, but I'm sorry if I don't see how that youth is translating into future success.

They're young, but none of them are really getting me excited over anything. We've got a RS SO starting QB. He's shown some small flashes, but also seems to be fragile. I question the leadership abilities of any QB who gets himself suspended for something as stupid as being caught with weed. Barnes looks like a great athlete, but he's not a QB, and if he cannot make the transition to WR/RB, he's of only marginal value.

We've got a Jr. RB who has looked like puke on nearly every carry he's had this year. His FR backup looked good Saturday, but KSU was quite content allowing us to run, I'll reserve judgement for when I see him play in meaningful plays.

At WR we have a SO in Partridge who looks like a true playmaker, despite what Brandon believes. Ruiz is a senior, Brantley is a senior. Parks has done nothing coming off the injury, and dropped a huge gain, if not TD, Saturday. Charles has shown not one flash of being the next Sharon.

The OL is very good, but they are not the young guys that we're talking about, most are veterans.

On defense it's more of the same. Young got the start Saturday, but I didn't notice him, he has good size. Parks is a senior. Briggs is a SO that is fun to watch.

Dozier is a quality LB and only a SO, I'm excited about his future as well. None of the other LBs has done anything to give me warm fuzzies. White's been okay, but he's a SR.

I know the entire secondary is young, but none of them have done anything particularly impressive to me. Sanderson made some plays against FIU & Smith made some plays last year. Perhaps they will develop into exciting players as well. The rest have been rather blah.

So basically out of this entire team Turner, Barnes, Partridge, Briggs, Dozier, Sanderson, and Smith are about the only young players who have really done anything to get anyone that worked up about the future of the team. The rest of the players are either seniors or have done little to leave me chomping at the bit for next year.

I'm sorry, I just don't see how youth = future greatness. Yes, I'm sure all these guys will improve in their time here, but most young studs will occasionally make some great plays, sprinkled with a lot of youthful mistakes. I'm seeing the youthful mistakes, but I'm still waiting to see the big plays.

2.Where the f**k was this kind of outrage against Dan Dakich while we were losing game after game and quitting night after night last year?!

I suggest you re-read the basketball forum.

[Flipper]

You'd have a better chance of getting Gil Thorp to leave Milford High than getting Kehres out of Mt Union...

[orangeandbrown]

Wow, you think we could get Gil Thorp. We'd save money, because he would coach basketball and baseball, too.

[bgsufalcon24]

contract heading into what looks like two very promising years in 07 and 08

What, may I ask, has you thinking that '07 & '08 are so promising? Really, I'm curious. There is a lot of youth on this team, I'll agree with Brandon & everyone else on that, but I'm sorry if I don't see how that youth is translating into future success.

They're young, but none of them are really getting me excited over anything. We've got a RS SO starting QB. He's shown some small flashes, but also seems to be fragile. I question the leadership abilities of any QB who gets himself suspended for something as stupid as being caught with weed. Barnes looks like a great athlete, but he's not a QB, and if he cannot make the transition to WR/RB, he's of only marginal value.

We've got a Jr. RB who has looked like puke on nearly every carry he's had this year. His FR backup looked good Saturday, but KSU was quite content allowing us to run, I'll reserve judgement for when I see him play in meaningful plays.

At WR we have a SO in Partridge who looks like a true playmaker, despite what Brandon believes. Ruiz is a senior, Brantley is a senior. Parks has done nothing coming off the injury, and dropped a huge gain, if not TD, Saturday. Charles has shown not one flash of being the next Sharon.

The OL is very good, but they are not the young guys that we're talking about, most are veterans.

On defense it's more of the same. Young got the start Saturday, but I didn't notice him, he has good size. Parks is a senior. Briggs is a SO that is fun to watch.

Dozier is a quality LB and only a SO, I'm excited about his future as well. None of the other LBs has done anything to give me warm fuzzies. White's been okay, but he's a SR.

I know the entire secondary is young, but none of them have done anything particularly impressive to me. Sanderson made some plays against FIU & Smith made some plays last year. Perhaps they will develop into exciting players as well. The rest have been rather blah.

So basically out of this entire team Turner, Barnes, Partridge, Briggs, Dozier, Sanderson, and Smith are about the only young players who have really done anything to get anyone that worked up about the future of the team. The rest of the players are either seniors or have done little to leave me chomping at the bit for next year.

I'm sorry, I just don't see how youth = future greatness. Yes, I'm sure all these guys will improve in their time here, but most young studs will occasionally make some great plays, sprinkled with a lot of youthful mistakes. I'm seeing the youthful mistakes, but I'm still waiting to see the big plays.

2.Where the f**k was this kind of outrage against Dan Dakich while we were losing game after game and quitting night after night last year?!

I suggest you re-read the basketball forum.

Hammb, I know you were the flag-bearer for those against Dakich last year, I read and agreed with many of your posts. It just seemed to me that whenever I would post something negative about Dakich, three people came down on me immediately criticizing me for posting something negative about the man. I nearly left the board for good because of how bad it was at one point. You don't see anybody sticking up for Brandon around here like you did Dakich. Well, maybe until today when a whole bunch of pro-Brandon started calling people idiots.

This board is in collective disarray right now. Perhaps I need to take a leave of absence for a while until things settle down.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Maybe if the basketball team lost by 50 at AA to Findlay, you'd see this in the basketball forum.

[Bleeding Orange]

Game #4 of a clear rebuilding year and you are already naming potential replacements for Gregg Brandon? Two things about this...

1.You're insane. We would never fire a coach with 2 years left on his contract heading into what looks like two very promising years in 07 and 08

2.Where the f**k was this kind of outrage against Dan Dakich while we were losing game after game and quitting night after night last year?!

1. I'm not insane. If everyone around here was serious about Bowling Green Football, then no one would be hoping for something different after the debaucle we saw on Saturday. What is insane is hoping for a different result when we have seen this coaching staff, with all of the talent that they have been able to recruit (one of the only points of credit that I am willing to give them anymore), to somehow turn things around when time and time again they have been simply, straight-up and flat-out out-coached by people who don't have the kind of talent that they have. If you need examples, then God bless you.

2. This outrage was there, but in my opinion, it is much more deserved in this situation. DD did not destroy our Men's BB program nearly as fast as GB has our Football program. They have both had their problems, but not only has DD proven in the past that he is capable of being a very good head coach, Gregg Brandon has given very little indication that he will ever be such.

3. You can call me whatever names you want, it really doesn't matter to me. I will be in Athens to support my university next weekend no matter what happened on Saturday, but please don't give me this crap about my anger being "too much for you to take." That is crap, and you need to get over yourself. You and some others around here need to realize that sometimes you need to get upset in college football for things to change. This isn't some kick-ass game of horseshoes - its D1A football for God's sake. It is a business, and you would never find any reputable public business that has such an incompetant CEO as Bowling Green Football does, especially when that business has gotten a letter from its governing organization regarding it's ability to keep people engaged.

Just as people are tired of hearing negativity on these boards, I am even more tired of hearing lame-ass excuses.

[TG1996]

I like cheese.

[Zom]

I like cheese.

Knowing that, I'll post a recipe for cheese fondue in the food forum in December, just in time for tv dinners and bowl games.

Much as I hated missing the game on Saturday, I guess I picked the right one to miss - its not like Miami, Toledo, or NIU haven't already slipped up on a few banana skins this season. Onwards and upwards, I'll take a win at Ohio for a dollar.

[Class of 61]

So, for the first suggestion as to who might possibly be able to lead Bowling Green Football capably and competantly, I suggest this man: http://www.muc.edu/content/download/276 ... Kehres.pdf

Knowing how many offers from D1 programs he has already turned down, this is a fantasy. He's never even interviewed at any other school. I don't see him leaving Mt Union.

EVER.

Actually, for what it's worth, he DID interview for the KSU job a few years ago, but HE pulled out even though an offer was extended. Didn't know about his BG "connections" if you will, but highly doubtful at age 55 that he'd make a move at this point...I think he's the AD at Mount Union too.

As to some of the comments about recruiting, I've wondered how long it would take for some people to see how FEW upperclassmen are starting or even in the two deep.... would tend to make on poster's observations about Meyer's last year and Brandon's first year as some shaky recruiting due possibly to the transition.

[Bleeding Orange]

As to some of the comments about recruiting, I've wondered how long it would take for some people to see how FEW upperclassmen are starting or even in the two deep.... would tend to make on poster's observations about Meyer's last year and Brandon's first year as some shaky recruiting due possibly to the transition.

This is a very valid point. It is easy to forget that the circumstances of Urban's departure created numerous hardships for Brandon, so I suppose it is a bit rash to fault him too much for this senior class's seeming lack of talent.

And for the record, I will say that I truly hope that Brandon and his staff are able to turn things around and make me and quite a few others around here look like a fool. I want to look like a fool, actually. I like Gregg Brandon as a person and I have wanted to see him succeed because of that, and somewhere, deep below my anger and frustration, I still do. Still, I can't ignore what I saw on the field on Saturday and what I heard after the game.

I do appologize if this thread in particular has offended anyone's sensibilities, but this is the level of frustration that I am feeling right now, and I know I'm not the only one. One of the the things that keeps rekindling my rage, honestly, is the use of the word "rebuilding" after what we saw on Saturday. A 38-31 loss could be considered rebuilding, and as Freak has said elsewhere, it doesn't matter who it is to, a 38-3 loss - especially at home - is just beyond unacceptable.

One thing I do know is that the only person out there who is more angry and frustrated than we are is Gregg Brandon himself. That man cares about this program and cares about these kids, there is no denying that. I guess that only makes this all harder to swallow. Ugh.

[Falconfreak90]

"One thing I do know is that the only person out there who is more angry and frustrated than we are is Gregg Brandon himself. That man cares about this program and cares about these kids, there is no denying that. I guess that only makes this all harder to swallow. Ugh".

That's what makes this even more difficult. I really like Gregg Brandon, the man. I want to see this thing turn around and get going. I'm really hoping Coach can do it. This has to be very difficult for him but in the end, he is the head coach and that's where the buck stops.

[Mr. Frieda]

Hammb, I know you were the flag-bearer for those against Dakich last year, I read and agreed with many of your posts. It just seemed to me that whenever I would post something negative about Dakich, three people came down on me immediately criticizing me for posting something negative about the man. I nearly left the board for good because of how bad it was at one point. You don't see anybody sticking up for Brandon around here like you did Dakich. Well, maybe until today when a whole bunch of pro-Brandon started calling people idiots.

This board is in collective disarray right now. Perhaps I need to take a leave of absence for a while until things settle down.

Bye...this is fun for a lot of people and it's better for them to rant and rave on here than doing it in public or throwing eggs at Brandon's house (note to self, optional fun for homecoming weekend). Just relax, and if you can't relax and just let people have their fun...then see ya.

Love the bantor...hate the coaching style.