the coach

bigdog · Post by **bigdog** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:22 pm

I agree he should be selling shoes. I do agree with alot of what you are saying. You would think that with his credentials he would be a unreal coach. Hell I was so excited when he was said to be the new coach. Unfortunately, his credentials don't say anything about how he interacts with his players or his knowledge about coaching. There are a lot of hockey players that are dumber than doorknobs and just don't fit in. So although he may have been one of the best d-men to go through BG doesn't mean the man can coach. I understand he has won a National Championship with BC but lets face it Assistant Coaches are just puppets of the head coach, ex. Ron Fogarty. Also I am not telling you my name, the difference is that when you guys tell me your name who cares. No one knows who you are besides your friends. If I tell you my name everyone on this will know me, so no.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:41 pm

bigdog wrote:Also I am not telling you my name, the difference is that when you guys tell me your name who cares. No one knows who you are besides your friends. If I tell you my name everyone on this will know me, so no.

Wow that's a response of a coward. It also reveals a lot about your character. No wonder you and your buddies are done playing collegiate hockey. Not really too surprising that another school doesn't want you or your buddies to be a part of their program.

Dublin Falcon · Post by **Dublin Falcon** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:45 pm

BGFan wrote:
Dublin Falcon wrote:Voakes and Hanson also left.
I saw both of them play. They were in over their heads and really didn't have the skills needed to play at this level.

You have to realize that a lot of the players coming in are recruited walk ons meaning that they'll be given a look but no guarantees. They're coming in here with no scholarship offer but have the chance to earn one if they're good enough. Neither Voakes or Hanson were. (FWIW, Voakes was the better of the two and lasted the longest.)

Scott and Ron were very excited when Hanson committed - told me so in person. He was a preliminary CSB "B" prospect so he had some talent. On paper, Siggy Jr., Meloche, Hanson and Unger were all fairly highly rated players and formed the start of a good class that doesn't offer much today as 2 are gone and Meloche has not developed as hoped. Is it the players or Scott? With 18 full schollys all programs bring in recruited walk-ons - see this year's FR class.

I think the next 2 years will tell bottom line what type of job Scott/Ron can and will do as there will be no ore "excuses" of a troubling Sr class of players not recruited by them. I am concerned how we could have fallen to 12th place even under the worst conditions. Be that as it may, we shall soon see who is right in this argument.

bigdog · Post by **bigdog** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:56 pm

I agree we will see one way or the other. I really hope that I am wrong with all that I have been saying and how the team will do this year. I am however scared that another 2 or 3 years will pass wihtout any improvment before this realization is seen. I just wish the problem could be fixed now and not have to waste another 2 or 3 years before the cause is fired.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:54 pm

bigdog wrote:I agree we will see one way or the other. I really hope that I am wrong with all that I have been saying and how the team will do this year. I am however scared that another 2 or 3 years will pass wihtout any improvment before this realization is seen. I just wish the problem could be fixed now and not have to waste another 2 or 3 years before the cause is fired.

Didn't you say you were leaving?

bigdog · Post by **bigdog** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:43 pm

ya sorry but with all the lack of knowledge on here, I feel it is my responsibility to educate you people.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:50 pm

bigdog wrote:ya sorry but with all the lack of knowledge on here, I feel it is my responsibility to educate you people.

I've talked to former players and current players who don't say the same things you do. They're also more than willing to make themselves known.

Can't say the same for you.

bigdog · Post by **bigdog** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:25 am

Ok, honestly do you really think the players are going to say anything bad about the coach to your face while still playing for him. Come on use your head! All it would take is one phone from you and that person wouldn't be playing for a long while. Plus if you know a lot of players that pretty much means you are a booster of some sort. The players aren't going disrespect you by chirping the program that you sponsor. I am in no way trying to do this either, I am just trying to inform people about the side of the coach and program that I unfortunately was exposed to.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:42 am

What reason would past players have then for staying silent?

Tech83 · Post by **Tech83** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:48 am

Bigdog does not get it and its not about "informing" us about the game or the coach or the state of the program. Its about a lack of professionalism and respect for the coach and repsect for our instituion.

No where do I hear the things that we should be hearing from this "former" player. So....

I am going to end my participation in thread with a quick story.

As mentioned before, I am good friends with a guy who played for the 1986 MAC Champion Redhawks. and yes he was a starter. Go look at who their coach was during that time and his record. My friend only talks about his teammates and coaches with fond memories, but he has confined in me privately that the coach was an issue. Instead of spending his time bashing his coach..... he talks about a more important issues. While visiting campus once with our boys, we walked through the student athlete center. Kids were in there working out, studying, and working in the computer lab. My friend turns to Nicholas and his son and says "The most important thing I did at Miami wasn't playing football, it was getting my educaton."

Bigdog, you're a young guy who has a lot to learn. If you came here as a recruit and obtained your education under a full or partial scholarship and your expression of thanks is to bash the program, the coach, the fans, then I feel sorry for you.

And I could careless who you are......

freddiethefalconBG · Post by **freddiethefalconBG** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:56 am

Well this has been interesting. I have not looked here in a few days but i se there has been a whole lot said.

Hey BIGDOG don't bother wasting your time bud. The fans on here are in denial for the most part.

OH, hey Tech83, dont tell me about being proffessional, you know nothing about me. i am very proffessional so please. stop trying to pump tyour tires.

You are right about one thing, i have NO RESPECT for pooch, and never will, and i will not donate a dollar to BGSU or the Hockey program until Pooch and Fogs are gone, and the rest of the guys that i played with all feel the same way.

You are wrong about not having respect for the school. O love BG. i lived a great life there and i will always want to come back for alumni events and be involved with the program. however Pooch needs to go. We will never win with him as a head coach. He is a joke.

We are a Division I school, lets a get a coach that desereves it. Because we are just headed for another bad year.

What is going to happen when he has another bad year. What is he going to blame th esenior class again? what a joke that was.

What was his reason when we got swept at home by Alaska. no reason we should have lost that series let alone get swept.

Paluch and Fogs are bad coaches lets hope the athletic department figures it out.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:53 pm

It's the Wood Duck Festival at a local park this weekend.

This begs the question: How much wood would a wood duck duck if a wood duck would duck wood?

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:54 pm

freddiethefalconBG wrote: OH, hey Tech83, dont tell me about being proffessional, you know nothing about me. i am very proffessional so please. stop trying to pump tyour tires.

I somehow find irony in the above paragraph.

BGFan · Post by **BGFan** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:18 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:
freddiethefalconBG wrote: OH, hey Tech83, dont tell me about being proffessional, you know nothing about me. i am very proffessional so please. stop trying to pump tyour tires.
I somehow find irony in the above paragraph.

Especially if he was involved in SharpieGate.

That was as professional as it gets.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:24 pm

The reason neither of these guys wants to identify themseleves is because they know their former teammates would be disappointed in them for slandering the coaching staff and trying to ruin the reputation of our team.

Obviously they are individuals that the current coaching staff saw through and for that I have to respect the decisions of our fine staff.

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