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Falconfreak90 wrote:Maybe its "continuous rivalry"? I could be wrong but that's what I read.
Most games in a rivalry goes to Troy vs. Piqua, currently tied at 57-57-6 after 120 meetings. My Trojans took the contest this year, with a 30-7 domination. They're 6-3 this season going into the final week, fighting for a playoff spot in DI R3. I drive down I-75 from Toledo to Troy (or wherever) to watch them play each Friday.
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I'll tell you what, there is a rivalry that has been for a conference title every year for the last four or five years now that happens at the end of the year just south of BG. Bluffton and Columbus Grove have had very good programs for about the last 8-10 years and have been the only consistent title contenders in that time frame. They play this Friday with both teams 9-0. I know that I have some great HS football down here in Texas, and especially in Houston, but I still miss the small town football games. There is nothing like them, and down here, it's still too dang warm to really get into the game in October. From what I've read about Bluffton from the Lima News online, they are running a spread that is very exciting. I know that when I was in High School, all they did was run the football, just like everyone other team in the NWC, but that is also when my school was competitive and also in the race for the title every year. If anyone is in that area, they might want to check that game this Friday, it's at Bluffton if I read the story right.
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While we're bragging about alma maters, mine, Austintown Fitch, is 8-1 following a loss to GlenOak...They've been ranked No. 1 in the first or second most difficult region in the state (behind maybe the D-1 Cincinnati region), and play 0-9 arch rival Boardman tomorrow.

I don't think they've made the playoffs since '94, so it's a big year in A-town!
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Schadenfreude wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:This is the 3rd longest rivalry in Ohio trailing only Canton McKinley/Massillon and Lorain/Elyria.
Not so sure about this.

I'm pretty sure Lorain High School closed in 1995. Lorain now has Admiral King and Southview high schools.

I lived in Lorain County for four years (back when there was a Lorain High School). I don't remember Lorain-Elyria being that big a deal -- not like Canton McKinley-Massilon or Dover-New Phily.
You are right this rivalry no longer exists. I think while Lorain HS still existed this was the longest standing rivalry in the state. ....Neither teams were ever any good though. Elyria still gets pounded a lot despite being one of the biggest schools in the state.
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Dover/New Phila rivalry article. This game has been played every year since 1921....100th game this year.

All even after 99 meetings
By DAVE WHITMER, T-R Sports Editor


Here we are, all square after 99 games.


Dover has 45 wins; New Philadelphia has 45 wins; there have been nine ties.


That’s what a good rivalry is all about, and these two high school football teams certainly have an impressive one going.


Game No. 100 on Friday night at Woody Hayes Quaker Stadium will be one for the ages. There will be at least 10,000 fans in attendance – and years from now some 100,000 no doubt will claim to have been on hand.


It wasn’t always like that.


One of Ohio’s oldest football rivalries began in relative obscurity in 1896. The teams played again the next year, but there were no more games until 1901.


In fact, the big game did not become an annual event until 1921, and the Quakers and Tornadoes have been meeting in the season finale each year since.


There’s little information to be found about games played before World War I. Sports pages of that era were rather sketchy compared with the coverage high school football receives today.


Here are a few “scoops’’ from some of the early battles:


— In the 1908 contest, Dover won 5-0 but was accused of “bribing’’ the officials. New Philadelphia severed its athletic relations with its neighboring rival. The teams did not meet on the gridiron again until 1914.


— Another dispute occurred in 1919, when Dover coach Dutch Senhauser pulled his team off the field in protest of an official’s ruling. New Philadelphia was awarded a 1-0 forfeit victory, and no game was played the following season because of the lingering hard feelings.


— The season-ending rivalry usually was played on Thanksgiving Day at the fairgrounds and Tuscora Park until new stadiums (with lights) saw the game moved to Friday nights after World War II.


Momentum always has been a key factor in this rivalry. The 1972 game is a good example.


Dover led 14-0 at halftime that year as its defense dominated the first two quarters. That changed abruptly late in the third period when New Philadelphia scored on a 70-yard punt return by Jeff Tucker and added a two-point conversion to close the deficit to 14-8.


With 1:49 left in the fourth quarter, Jeff Dummermuth tallied the tying touchdown and Tim McCoy kicked the decisive extra point in a 15-14 Quaker triumph.


Dover has never led in the long series. The first seven games resulted in a 2-2-3 standoff, then New Philadelphia moved out to a 10-3-4 advantage after the 1921 game.


The Quakers maintained a wide margin from then until the past decade. The Tornadoes have won the last nine meetings – longest winning streak in the series — to draw even.


New Philadelphia’s largest lead in the series was 32-15-7 after the 1958 contest. Dover didn’t whittle it under double digits until a four-game winning streak narrowed the margin to 38-31-9 in 1982.


And now the Tornadoes have the opportunity to claim the lead in the series for the first time.




DOVER Year PHILA


0 1896 18


0 1897 13


5 1901 5


11 1901 0


0 1905 0


5 1908 0


0 1914 0


0 1914 21


0 1915 39


0 1915 42


7 1916 0


0 1916 0


0 1917 47


0 1917 61


7 1919 10


0 1919 1


0 1921 13


7 1922 6


6 1923 14


0 1924 64


6 1925 14


6 1926 6


0 1927 0


18 1928 0


0 1929 7


13 1930 7


27 1931 6


12 1932 7


20 1933 0


0 1934 49


14 1935 34


13 1936 14


6 1937 21


0 1938 7


0 1939 46


19 1940 0


14 1941 0


40 1942 0


0 1943 20


0 1944 13


6 1945 0


0 1946 3


13 1947 6


7 1948 12


6 1949 27


12 1950 19


7 1951 25


13 1952 13


0 1953 28


6 1954 16


34 1955 20


0 1956 72


12 1957 20


6 1958 19


36 1959 0


8 1960 0


16 1961 12


6 1962 0


8 1963 12


14 1964 14


14 1965 12


0 1966 8


6 1967 0


26 1968 0


0 1969 8


21 1970 6


27 1971 13


14 1972 15


17 1973 0


0 1974 7


17 1975 8


7 1976 7


7 1977 0


10 1978 13


28 1979 7


9 1980 7


14 1981 0


13 1982 10


7 1983 9


6 1984 7


8 1985 7


7 1986 32


43 1987 28


19 1988 22


28 1989 22


0 1990 27


14 1991 38


17 1992 14


13 1993 6


9 1994 16


14 1995 0


7 1996 6


49 1997 7


66 1998 21


48 1999 3


35 2000 0


28 2001 7


12 2002 0


34 2003 14


Total points


1165 1331


Shutouts




24 27


45 Total victories 45


(9 ties)

GO DOVER! BEAT PHILA!!!
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year 1919, how do you win one to zero :o
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kdog27 wrote:year 1919, how do you win one to zero :o
Canadian rules. They scored a rouge...
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kdog27 wrote:year 1919, how do you win one to zero :o
Isn't this the official score when one team forfeits?
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Post by TG1996 »

the "unofficial" final standings are up at the OHSAA site, as of now it looks like Eastwood is in. It would be a shame if they missed out and their only loss was in 2OT, but I don't know if that would be enough for the state to consider expanding the playoffs like they did a few years ago when they only took 4 teams and some undefeateds missed out.

Oh, and here's to the playoff-bound Rossford Bulldogs!!! :partyman: Looks like they play Otsego in the first round.

http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/rankings.txt

EDIT:

I don't have the link, but the AP just released the pairings, and Eastwood plays Napoleon in the first round, Rossford plays Otsego. Sites to be announced Monday afternoon.
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