Garret Wolfe = Amazing

GMBG2006 · Post by **GMBG2006** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:48 pm

I may be a huge BG fan but it is good to see a MAC player have a huge game as long as it isnt against BG of course. And today Garret definatly had a huge game even if it was against Ball State. Here is his stat line:

CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Garrett Wolfe 31 351 11.3 3 75

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:50 pm

He's no Freddie Barnes or Bullock.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:18 pm

was just about to share, they had a pretty good column on him in the Indy Star today, about how no matter what he does, he should just be happy if he gets in the top 5 of the Heisman vote...

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... 6609290407

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:47 pm

Garrett ought to win the Heisman. These are sick numbers, and he's done nearly as much against Ohio State and Michigan.

He's a superfreak. These are Randy Moss-type numbers -- and whoever won the Heisman Moss' last year, it was the wrong guy

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:36 am

Schadenfreude wrote:Garrett ought to win the Heisman. These are sick numbers, and he's done nearly as much against Ohio State and Michigan.

He's a superfreak. These are Randy Moss-type numbers -- and whoever won the Heisman Moss' last year, it was the wrong guy

On Around the Horn the other day one of the columinsts was saying he should be the Heisman favorite right now. I agree.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:38 am

Just like Omar should have in 04. The big boys will always play the competition card, and nobody from this conference will ever have a prayer of winning it, fundamentally wrong as that may be.

I'd say it was possible if a MAC team ran the table, but Alex Smith didn't win it. What more could he have done?

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:53 am

20 years ago I think he could have won it. Now the award goes to the QB on an undefeated team 80% of the time.

FalconFanKM · Post by **FalconFanKM** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:13 am

On ESPN today, they showed his current stats right now. He is on pace to break Barry Sanders record in most rushing yards in a season. If he can keep up his average, which is around 9.5 per rush, he can break the record which is 7.2 or something. I would like to see him get the Heisman IF he can keep up the numbers.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:44 pm

Another view of Wolfe and the Heisman, chock full o' backhanded compliments and putdowns.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15095770/

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:36 am

kdog27 wrote:20 years ago I think he could have won it. Now the award goes to the QB on an undefeated team 80% of the time.

I disagree. 21 years ago we had a pretty darn good QB at BG that was lucky to get in the top 10 of the votes. In this BCS Big Money era of football and the lowered scholarship numbers and recent 'success' from the MAC, the time is better than ever for Mid Am players to be in this discussion.

Heck look at what Troy Davis from Iowa State did and he was lucky to get in the top 5.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:17 pm

Andre Ware won it in 1989 for Houston. As did Ty Detmer a year later. Sometimes the best player in the country is on the #1 or #2 team in the country but nowadays being that player pretty much guarantees a top 3 finish in the voting. Ware was the last player that was not on a high profile team to win it. If Ware was playing today I bet he wouldn't win it.

2005 Reggie Bush USC (Running Back)
2004 Matt Leinart USC (Quarterback)
2003 Jason White Oklahoma (Quarterback)
2002 Carson Palmer Southern California (Quarterback)
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska (Quarterback)
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State (Quarterback)
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin (Running Back)
1998 Ricky Williams Texas (Running Back)
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan (Cornerback)
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida (Quarterback)
1995 Eddie George Ohio State (Running Back)
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado (Running Back)
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State (Quarterback)
1992 Gino Torretta Miami (Quarterback)
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan (Wide Receiver)
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young (Quarterback)
1989 Andre Ware Houston (Quarterback)
1988 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State (Running Back)
1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame (Wide Receiver)
1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami (Quarterback)
1985 Bo Jackson Auburn (Running Back)
1984 Doug Flutie Boston College (Quarterback)
1983 Mike Rozier Nebraska (Running Back)
1982 Herschel Walker Georgia (Running Back)
1981 Marcus Allen Southern California (Running Back)
1980 George Rogers South Carolina (Running Back) .

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:19 pm

kdog- interesting topic. .. for discussions sake here is a look at the finalists from those years you mentioned:

1988
1 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State Jr. RB
2 Rodney Peete Southern California Sr. QB
3 Troy Aikman UCLA Sr. QB
4 Steve Walsh Miami (FL) Jr. QB
5 Major Harris West Virginia Jr. QB

1989
1 Andre Ware Houston Jr. QB
2 Anthony Thompson Indiana Sr. RB
3 Major Harris West Virginia Jr. QB
4 Tony Rice Notre Dame Sr. QB
5 Darian Hagan Colorado So. QB

1990
1 Ty Detmer Brigham Young Jr. QB
2 Raghib Ismail Notre Dame Jr. FL
3 Eric Bieniemy Colorado Sr. RB
4 Shawn Moore Virginia Sr. QB
5 David Klingler Houston Jr. QB

1991
1 Desmond Howard Michigan Jr. WR
2 Casey Weldon Florida State Sr. QB
3 Ty Detmer Brigham Young Sr. QB
4 Steve Emtman Washington Jr. DT
5 Shane Matthews Florida Jr. QB 246

In 1989 Major Harris is the only finalist I'd heard of/remember. . .Granted Detmer wins with some good competition in Rocket and Bieniemy, but then he falls to third the following year. That seems to be a thread as the other underclassman winners who returned (that I picked out of the list quickly)- White and Leinert each also finished third the following season.

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jacojdm · Post by **jacojdm** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:32 pm

Dayons_Den wrote:kdog- interesting topic. .. for discussions sake here is a look at the finalists from those years you mentioned:

1989
1 Andre Ware Houston Jr. QB
3 Major Harris West Virginia Jr. QB
4 Tony Rice Notre Dame Sr. QB

In 1989 Major Harris is the only finalist I'd heard of/remember. . .Granted Detmer wins with some good competition in Rocket and Bieniemy, but then he falls to third the following year. That seems to be a thread as the other underclassman winners who returned (that I picked out of the list quickly)- White and Leinert each also finished third the following season.

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Tony Rice was the QB of the National Championship team that beat Harris' Mountaineers in the Fiesta Bowl. He was ND's first black QB. He had both of those things going for him.
Ismail probably should've beaten out Detmer.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:11 pm

Wolfe's Amazing Numbers
October 5th, 2006

Garrett Wolfe has rushed for more yards (1,181) than Troy Smith has passed for (1,070). He has scored as many touchdowns as Smith has tossed (12).

Smith is averaging 8.36 yards per pass attempt. Wolfe is averaging 9.3 yards per carry.

Adrian Peterson has just 10 less carries than Wolfe, but he is behind him in rushing by 538 yards.

Peterson would have to average 53.8 yards on his next 10 carries to keep pace.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:37 pm

kdog27 wrote:Wolfe's Amazing Numbers
October 5th, 2006

Garrett Wolfe has rushed for more yards (1,181) than Troy Smith has passed for (1,070). He has scored as many touchdowns as Smith has tossed (12).

Smith is averaging 8.36 yards per pass attempt. Wolfe is averaging 9.3 yards per carry.

Adrian Peterson has just 10 less carries than Wolfe, but he is behind him in rushing by 538 yards.

Peterson would have to average 53.8 yards on his next 10 carries to keep pace.

Gah-gah-gah-gooey.