Our Quarterback

[BGFootball]

BGFootbal, I really don't mean to be a dick, but from my perspective as a fan:

AT =

AG = ???

At this point, I'll take ??? over hands down.

Dont worry, no offense taken 8) .....

I cant expect people on a message board to believe that I know what Im talkin about lol.......

and although I am also disappointed right now with the play of AT and our team last night, I still know what hes capable of, and I know he will come through....and as disappointing as it may be, he is our guy right now.....so im gonna support him 100%...

And maybe the coaches are playin him before hes 100% because he is still out playing our other options at QB??? I mean, alot of people are knockin Coach Brandon, but dont forget about Coach McCall. He is a great quarterback coach and has coached many good quarterbacks...just give it some time....thats all im tryin to say...

You're probably right. I do have a lot of faith in Coach McCall, which is something I haven't been thinking about in my irrational internal tyraids since last night. I guess my frustration is born of the fact that I can probably count on one hand the number of decent passes that AT made last night. I guess I would feel differently about his recent performances if it was his throwing shoulder that he had injured earlier in the year. The throws he is making right now, it seems to me, are not the result of working through an injury, but rather, piss-poor decision making.

I'll shut up now, though.

I was not using his injury as an excuse for poor passing, just an excuse for why he may not run as hard as he used to when scrambling.....thats all...and from what I have seen the reason Turner runs so much is because he has trouble finding a receiver quick enough so he tucks and runs....Alot of his runs are not designed QB draws everytime like they did with Barnes.....

[Falconfreak90]

how are we talking about the offense I wasn't at the game and it looks like our defense got burnt!

Defense was not the reason we lost that game. Yes they gave up the big TD run to start the game. But after that first play, they dominated CMU for most of the next three quarters. Turner threw the int that was returned for a TD and got us in the big hole. And the offense couldn't take advantage of great field position in the third quarter (punting from the CMU 41 and 32 on consecutive series ) The two fourth quarter TDs were probably mental mistakes brought on by the loss of condfidence because the offense couldn't get us the lead when they had all kinds of opportunities.

Just got done watching the CMU game on tape. Here are a few stats I whipped up...

CMU Rushing---154 yds. 44 on the first play. That means BG held CMU to about 110 rushing the whole game minus one play.

CMU Passing---212 yrds. 88 on one play. That means BG held CMU to 124 passing the whole game minus one play.

Minus those two plays, CMU had roughly 234 yards of total offense. This team came into the game with BG averaging almost 400. The D did their job 95% of the time.

That was missing two starters in Williams and Young as well.

Very frustrating night for the O not to capitalize on field postion and opportunities.

[Warthog]

That was missing two starters in Williams and Young as well.

You could say we were missing Nick Davis as well, but the point is still that we were missing our two starting interior defensice lineman. And I don't think Antonio Smith played all that much either. He has been dinged up since the first series against Wicsonsin. So that would make it three starters.

Did Mahone start?

[RobbyFalcon]

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Just got done watching the CMU game on tape. Here are a few stats I whipped up...

CMU Rushing---154 yds. 44 on the first play. That means BG held CMU to about 110 rushing the whole game minus one play.

CMU Passing---212 yrds. 88 on one play. That means BG held CMU to 124 passing the whole game minus one play.

Minus those two plays, CMU had roughly 234 yards of total offense. This team came into the game with BG averaging almost 400. The D did their job 95% of the time.

That was missing two starters in Williams and Young as well.

Very frustrating night for the O not to capitalize on field postion and opportunities.[/quote]

...well besides that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

Go Falcons!!

[BGSUFootballFan]

Yeah that's true. Those plays did happen and they do count. But I think his point was that our defense didn't lose us this game. Our offense and ST's did. Our defense can only hang on for so long, and thats what they did. I think if our O could have capitialized on good field position that the big pass play would have never happend, but its all spilled milk now. We better grow up fast, because we'll most likely have to win out to make a bowl game!

[kdog27]

Did Mahone start?

No and he did not play much.

[Bleeding Orange]

Did Mahone start?

No and he did not play much.

Wait, so he did play? I had heard through the grapevine that they might hang a medical redshirt on him. Huh.

[kdog27]

Well I double checked in the stats and the participation report has him in there.

[orangeandbrown]

"We were in cover three, and I saw the running back sitting out in the flat. We're coached to stay back, so I did that, and I saw the throw coming and I wondered what he was looking at when he threw it. I just wanted to make sure I didn't drop it. I knew my family was watching back home. That was probably the longest 30 yards I've ever run in my life." Central Michigan DB Eric Fraser on his interception return for a TD.

[NWLB]

I'll just add to the mix, that there isn't going to be one single source for the teams current struggles. I've seen years during Blackney's era, when the defense was a point of pride, like that Ohio had coming into this year. But the offense would fail to show up, and the huge efforts would go for naught. Then there are the years, when the defense doesn't quite equal its best recent years, and the offense is a bit better. Or years like this, where the offense just has not a clue, and people argue that better defense could make a difference.

Teams win and lose as a unit. The mix of offense and defense just isn't enough to win this year, as to why? That brings us to the third leg of the program, the coaching.

How big a difference can coaching make year over year? Take a look at BGSU football since just before Stoltz through to present day. We see good coaches lose that spark, doormat programs and elite programs turn on a dime. You want to compare sports? Ask the local hockey fans what happened as Terry Flanagan declined over that last year of his life, during a season. We can debate a million issues from now until Toledo freezes over. But you can't avoid coming right back to the people who are accountable for the program.

The players are going out, we assume, and playing their best, doing what they are coached to do. And they are being beaten. We assume they trust their coaches, so putting yourself into the players shoes, you begin to wonder at what point credibility starts to wane. When they start coming in, offering new explanations, changes in direction, etc, we enter into a dangerous phase. Can the coaches keep their credibility intact as they navigate this season. Has this, AND last year, been enough of a wake-up call to get these guys doing what we HOPE they KNOW and are ABLE to do. This, while they avoid looking clueless to their players, whose egos will start looking for somebody to blame.

[transfer2BGSU]

We can debate a million issues from now until Toledo freezes over.

[birddog]

This whole board is a rerun of the Kent game. We lost because our QB played poorly and we are way too inexperienced. AT is our best option. Hell Omar sucked last year against Boise and frankly played a notch above OK the rest of the year with way more experience at every skill position . You clowns expect the JV team to ake over and win immediately. We all knew a notch above 500 was realistic with this team. We will do better. Get a life guysand take the BG goggles off for ten minutes and really look at this team.

Birddog

[Warthog]

Birdog, I hear what you are trying to say, BUT why do we have to run a 'JV' team out there? That's where my problem lies. Yes, I know we are young. But we are so young because we got almost nothing out of two recruiting classes in a row. If we had done a better job with what is now our Sr. and Jr. classes, we certainly would not be in this position.

[Falconfreak90]

Birdog, I hear what you are trying to say, BUT why do we have to run a 'JV' team out there? That's where my problem lies. Yes, I know we are young. But we are so young because we got almost nothing out of two recruiting classes in a row. If we had done a better job with what is now our Sr. and Jr. classes, we certainly would not be in this position.

And who are you calling clowns? Some people on here have been going to BG football games for quite some time. Excuse me for being passionate about the program.

[Bleeding Orange]

This whole board is a rerun of the Kent game. We lost because our QB played poorly and we are way too inexperienced. AT is our best option. Hell Omar sucked last year against Boise and frankly played a notch above OK the rest of the year with way more experience at every skill position . You clowns expect the JV team to ake over and win immediately. We all knew a notch above 500 was realistic with this team. We will do better. Get a life guysand take the BG goggles off for ten minutes and really look at this team.

Birddog

Say what you will Birddog, but there is no excuse for a quarterback on a D1A football team to play as poorly as AT has been, and believe me, I hate to call out a collegiate player like this. But I think it should be obvious that his recent play has been beyond unacceptable. If he were showing any kind of progress this year then I don't think you would be reading the kind of things you are reading about him now, but he hasn't. If anything, he has regressed as the season has gone on.

You should try to tone it down a bit, especially when you are wearing the same glasses you accuse others of wearing.