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Iowa State HC who will likely be fired. 2-time all Big 12 coach 2001, 2004....May be an option for a team out there looking to replace their HC. :evil:

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That's nice...I don't think we'll have an opening anytime soon and I don't think we'd want someone coming right off a firing anyway.

Your best bet to find MAC HC candidates would be to look at the roster of positional coaches at midwester BCS schools. You can also look at current assistants under the departing coach assuming the HC is departing of his own volition.

We don't pay enough to get BCS coordinators, NFL assistants, recently terminated BCS coaches, Steve Mariucci or Butch Davis.

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I seem to remember hearing that he signed a contract extension in the off-season. If that is the case, I would expect he will be back at least for next season. If next year is a totally tank of a season again, then maybe he will be gone.
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Flipper wrote:That's nice...I don't think we'll have an opening anytime soon and I don't think we'd want someone coming right off a firing anyway.

Your best bet to find MAC HC candidates would be to look at the roster of positional coaches at midwester BCS schools. You can also look at current assistants under the departing coach assuming the HC is departing of his own volition.

We don't pay enough to get BCS coordinators, NFL assistants, recently terminated BCS coaches, Steve Mariucci or Butch Davis.

Oh...no one will ever get Larry Kehres to leave Mount Union
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You could throw a dart at a nationwide phone book and have the same chance of guessing who our next HC will be as you have by listing random coordinator and head coach names.

Why don't we just speculate what the weather will be like on the day the announcement takes place. That would be about as productive. I'm gonna go with sunny.
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MatelaAntwerp wrote:
Flipper wrote:That's nice...I don't think we'll have an opening anytime soon and I don't think we'd want someone coming right off a firing anyway.

Your best bet to find MAC HC candidates would be to look at the roster of positional coaches at midwester BCS schools. You can also look at current assistants under the departing coach assuming the HC is departing of his own volition.

We don't pay enough to get BCS coordinators, NFL assistants, recently terminated BCS coaches, Steve Mariucci or Butch Davis.

Oh...no one will ever get Larry Kehres to leave Mount Union
What Midwestern school did Frank Solich go to.
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:-) Aww. dayon. It makes me feel so good that you like my posts so much that you read them just to pass judgment on them even though you could clearly tell what it was about from the subject.

I will try to keep things up for you and let me just tell you I appreciate your posts as well. Flipper, Hammb and you are my 3 favorite people to read on here.
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MatelaAntwerp wrote::-) Aww. dayon. It makes me feel so good that you like my posts so much that you read them just to pass judgment on them even though you could clearly tell what it was about from the subject.

I will try to keep things up for you and let me just tell you I appreciate your posts as well. Flipper, Hammb and you are my 3 favorite people to read on here.
I just think the speculations about a position that isn't even rumored to become available is a bit ridiculous. One of the many reasons I like Bowling Green football is because we haven't slipped in to the overly cynical fan base cycles of our larger BCS Brothers with wwww.fireourheadcoach.com websites and the like.

Coming up with new coaches names and posting them has become tired, in my opinion.
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Dayons_Den wrote:
MatelaAntwerp wrote::-) Aww. dayon. It makes me feel so good that you like my posts so much that you read them just to pass judgment on them even though you could clearly tell what it was about from the subject.

I will try to keep things up for you and let me just tell you I appreciate your posts as well. Flipper, Hammb and you are my 3 favorite people to read on here.
I just think the speculations about a position that isn't even rumored to become available is a bit ridiculous. One of the many reasons I like Bowling Green football is because we haven't slipped in to the overly cynical fan base cycles of our larger BCS Brothers with wwww.fireourheadcoach.com websites and the like.

Coming up with new coaches names and posting them has become tired, in my opinion.
And you are absolutely entitled to that opinion. I just look at it as a more creative way to say "Brandon Sucks" and a way to also educate those interested as to what may be out there for us if we decide to move on in the near future. I will continue to post these names when I hear about people being distanced from their jobs. I also appreciate the discourse and the chance to find out more about these coaches that I know little about. I will try to make my posts more obvious in the future.

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Well here is my opinion on McCarney, since you said you would like to learn more about the people as well and since I lived in the state he coaches in for the better part of 6 years.

-He is on contract to coach at Iowa State through 2010. Yes he could be let out of his contract early, but Iowa State, despite being a large, in-state school is a second tier Big XII school and plays second fiddle in their own state to Iowa. They also had to recently buy out the contract of their basketball coach who was spending more time at sorority houses than practice sessions, thus making it fairly unlikely he will be bought out any time soon.

-McCarney is a Hayden Fry disciple and worked alongside many prominent head coaches like Iowa's Kirk Ferentz, Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, and Kansas' Mark Mangino. Compound his connections with the fact that Iowa State has just one losing record during the past six seasons. The Cyclones have been to five bowl games since 2000. I'd say he has a pretty good chance of landing on his feet in a coordinator position if he is let go.

I know it has been debated on here before, but a coordinator spot in the Big XII carries with it more monetary merit than a head coaching job in the M.A.C. I think at 53 coach Mac would just as soon become a coordinator and await another Big XII head coaching spot if in fact he would be removed from Iowa State.
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MatelaAntwerp wrote:Iowa State HC who will likely be fired. 2-time all Big 12 coach 2001, 2004....May be an option for a team out there looking to replace their HC.
What is it with you and constantly trying to find a replacement for Coach Brandon? Why in the world would we want to hire a coach who has been fired from his previous head coaching gig?

If you want to know why I constantly argue with you about your head coaching posts, this is the reason. THEY MAKE NO COMMON SENSE! John L. Smith and now this guy? You will never get my vote for AD.
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transfer2BGSU wrote:
MatelaAntwerp wrote:Iowa State HC who will likely be fired. 2-time all Big 12 coach 2001, 2004....May be an option for a team out there looking to replace their HC.
What is it with you and constantly trying to find a replacement for Coach Brandon? Why in the world would we want to hire a coach who has been fired from his previous head coaching gig?

If you want to know why I constantly argue with you about your head coaching posts, this is the reason. THEY MAKE NO COMMON SENSE! John L. Smith and now this guy? You will never get my vote for AD.
The best we can hope for is a coach from a more high paying high profile school who gets forced out or an assistant on his way up. If we want a coach with HC experience then we have to take someone who just got fired. Just because a coach was fired does not mean they are not a good coach. Bill Bellicheck once got fired. There is something to a good fit for the right person. The fact that a coach was fired from his previous gig means little to me and should be thrown out the window. Would you not have wanted Ty Willingham in BG?
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Dayons_Den wrote:Well here is my opinion on McCarney, since you said you would like to learn more about the people as well and since I lived in the state he coaches in for the better part of 6 years.

-He is on contract to coach at Iowa State through 2010. Yes he could be let out of his contract early, but Iowa State, despite being a large, in-state school is a second tier Big XII school and plays second fiddle in their own state to Iowa. They also had to recently buy out the contract of their basketball coach who was spending more time at sorority houses than practice sessions, thus making it fairly unlikely he will be bought out any time soon.

-McCarney is a Hayden Fry disciple and worked alongside many prominent head coaches like Iowa's Kirk Ferentz, Oklahoma's Bob Stoops, and Kansas' Mark Mangino. Compound his connections with the fact that Iowa State has just one losing record during the past six seasons. The Cyclones have been to five bowl games since 2000. I'd say he has a pretty good chance of landing on his feet in a coordinator position if he is let go.

I know it has been debated on here before, but a coordinator spot in the Big XII carries with it more monetary merit than a head coaching job in the M.A.C. I think at 53 coach Mac would just as soon become a coordinator and await another Big XII head coaching spot if in fact he would be removed from Iowa State.
I read today he was on the hotseat. What you say about his contract and the Iowa State climate makes much more sense.
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Flipper wrote:That's nice...I don't think we'll have an opening anytime soon and I don't think we'd want someone coming right off a firing anyway.

Your best bet to find MAC HC candidates would be to look at the roster of positional coaches at midwester BCS schools. You can also look at current assistants under the departing coach assuming the HC is departing of his own volition.

We don't pay enough to get BCS coordinators, NFL assistants, recently terminated BCS coaches, Steve Mariucci or Butch Davis.

Oh...no one will ever get Larry Kehres to leave Mount Union
Kent and Akron have both made valient attempts in recent years to lure Kehres.

I don't think finances play as big a picture as you think. There is a finite number of IA jobs that most BCS coordinators would love to have. It's an exclusive club, and they'd trade a few bucks for a better title and their own chance to run a program. To wit:

Prior to Brian Kelly, CMU had Mike DeBord, the former offensive coordinator at Michigan.

The current WMU coach, Bill Cubit, was coming off offensive coordinator stints at Missouri, Rutgers and Stanford.

Prior to hiring Tom Amstutz, Toledo interviewed Virginia Tech Offensive Coordinator Ricky Bustle as a finalist. He later took the head job at Division IA lightweight Louisiana-Lafayette.

One of the other two finalists when Urban Meyer was hired at BG was Jim Chaney, then the offensive coordinator at Purdue.

Going even further down the D-I ladder, Western Illinois plucked the offensive coordinator off of Iowa's staff, Don Patterson.

Even Gregg Brandon himself was a BCS position coach (WR) at Colorado prior to coming to BG and getting the chance to run his own show as offensive coordinator. The present coaches at Ball State and Buffalo with BCS experience all held the additional title of Associate or Assistant Head Coach at their respective schools.

What does all this mean? Basically, I think the BG job would be an extremely attractive opportunity whenever it would come open and attract a wide array of quailfied candidates.
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