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NWLB wrote:If Rutgers runs the table, they ought to be in the title game, which assumes Ohio doesn't lose to Michigan.

But so much red in any single stadium, hurts my eyes I tell you.
Scarlet overflow for sure....ugh

Rutgers has had a more difficult schedule than WVU...I hate the whole anti-Rutgers prejudice that is going on. I hate that WVU is ranked ahead of Louisville. I honestly think that Rutgers would beat Florida and Notre Dame. Not sure about USC, but I think it would be a distinct possibility.
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Regardless of whether the BCS actually works...It's still total BS, way too many favoritisms for the teams that normally do well and not enough for the smaller teams. It sucks and it's stupid. Oh, and I'm not saying just because I am a Falcon Student and Fan.
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An eight game playoff using the current bowl structure would be the best thing to ever happen to college football.

And no polls until about week 6. Anybody who tells you that if they had to fill out their first ballot right now, and wouldn't put Rutgers in the top 5, is either lying to you or stupid.


Here's a scenario: WVU beats Rutgers, LSU beats Arkansas, Arkansas beats Florida, Notre Dame beats USC.

Would you want to see a Michigan/OSU rematch in the title game? I would love to see it.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote: Here's a scenario: WVU beats Rutgers, LSU beats Arkansas, Arkansas beats Florida, Notre Dame beats USC.

Would you want to see a Michigan/OSU rematch in the title game? I would love to see it.
I think you need Cal over USC and then USC over Notre Dame. I think that would get a one-loss West Virginia in the title game. That would be hilarious!

Or how about Wisconsin sneaking up and taking the #2 spot?

Heck, why not Boise State?
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But for some reason, Michigan is higher than OSU in most of the computer polls. I still think it is concievable that Michigan could lose and still be #2 in the BCS if some of the games mentioned above play out like this.
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Assuming Michigan loses, they have by far the best profile among the 1-loss teams right now thanks to wins over Wisky and Notre Dame.

However, if USC wins out, I think they have the most rightful claim to the 2 spot over OSU or Michigan (if Rutgers loses).

We basically have an 8-team playoff over the next few weeks.
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It would be better but I think the only way to remove doubt is to have a 16 team playoff. One team from every conference and the rest are at large bids. The other three divisions have a playoff system similar to that and it works.

Here's a scenario: WVU beats Rutgers, LSU beats Arkansas, Arkansas beats Florida, Notre Dame beats USC.

Would you want to see a Michigan/OSU rematch in the title game? I would love to see it.
I do not want to see a rematch of that game. I have no sympathy for the loser of that game. Those are the only two teams that control their own destiny. They have their chance to get it done and if they don't, see you next year. ...Go Blue.

I don't rule that out though. Both Oklahoma and Nebraska limped themselves into the title game in the past 6 years.
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The biggest difference between OSU/Michigan and Rutgers is that OSU and Michigan played its toughest competition at the beginning of the season (Texas, Iowa, Notre Dame). Rutgers is just now playing theirs. I believe the computer looks at recent games versus earlier in the season. Even with OSU blowing out Northwestern and UM doing the same to Indiana, those opponents aren't as tough as WVU and Louisville.

I still don't think that WVU and UL are as tough as OSU or Michigan and that both have better offenses and defenses.

Defense will be the key in the OSU/Michigan game, along with the proverbial "big play" that breaks for a touchdown or sets one up.

I haven't seen much of Michigan, but I have seen all but two OSU games (Northern Illinois and Illinois) in person or on TV. Depth and talent are the thing that OSU has that makes them stand out. If only BG had both, this season wouldn't have been as bad as it has.
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cbjhack wrote:The biggest difference between OSU/Michigan and Rutgers is that OSU and Michigan played its toughest competition at the beginning of the season (Texas, Iowa, Notre Dame). Rutgers is just now playing theirs. I believe the computer looks at recent games versus earlier in the season. Even with OSU blowing out Northwestern and UM doing the same to Indiana, those opponents aren't as tough as WVU and Louisville.
Yes and no - Ohio State looked like it had a killer beginning of the schedule at Texas and at Iowa. Those games don't look as tough now as against Wisconsin and @ Notre Dame. It isn't just when they played.
cbjhack wrote:I still don't think that WVU and UL are as tough as OSU or Michigan and that both have better offenses and defenses.
I remember watching the UL and WVU game thinking that Ohio State would bea thte hell out of both of those teams. Rutgers is a balanced, fundamentally solid football team. If Rutgers was named "WVU" they would be ranked 3rd right now. Give Rutgers the same schedule, same preseasion ranking, and they are 3rd in both polls; I hate that prejudice.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Assuming Michigan loses, they have by far the best profile among the 1-loss teams right now thanks to wins over Wisky and Notre Dame.

However, if USC wins out, I think they have the most rightful claim to the 2 spot over OSU or Michigan (if Rutgers loses).

We basically have an 8-team playoff over the next few weeks.
HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH UM GETTING A SECOND CHANCE

and there are quite a few.

1. they didnt even win their own conference (USC already locked up, florida/arkansas will be conference champs)

2.they had their shot at #1 - they failed - time to move on

3. it makes the first game meaningless as far as national title is concerned (only meant something for big ten title)

4. The score was closer than it really was (OSU gave UM 24 points - 10 points off turnovers on own 30 yard line - two 15 yard penalties (one on a failed third down conversion and one on a roughn the center? whatever the hell that is, that both turned into touchdown drives, that equals 24 points)) not to mention the osu interception that was called back unjustly (the evidence was not undisputable) whihc i think lead to points, and one of OSU's tunrovers came when they were about to score atleast another field goal.

5. UM played their best against OSU - OSU didnt have their best game and they still were victorious. (if you win the turnover battle 3-0 and still lose then you dont deserve another shot)

6. If UM does make it and they do beat OSU they split 1-1 this season..so who is the real champs? it makes it that much more controversial...especially if a 1 loss florida or arkansas was left out. (also assuming USC lost in this scenario to ND)

7. Who gives anyone the right to give MICHigan a second chance for losing late in the season (close game or not) but not give Florida a 2nd chance at a title after losing a close game to a good auburn team? or ND for bouncing back and winning the rest of their games (if they beat USC)

8. been there, done that dont want to see it again (not back to back anyways - if this was a mid season game then sure give it to us again but not back to back
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