Flipper wrote:Well...according to Scout.com, we hae an offer out to *** QB Nate Brown....
Turner gets a D from me...He's just too inconsistent. I don't have a sense that he's improved at al since the first snap he took against WMU afgter Omar got hurt in 2205
So are you saying we won't be good until at least 2207 or 2208? YIKES!
Damn these qwerty keyboards...AT is the same QB that took the filed when Omar went out in 2005...but, we may be hurting for that long if we don't develop a QB. You aren't going tp be a player in the MAC or any other conference with a bad QB
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
My problem is that he is suppose to be such a big running threat yet he gets drug now from behind all the time when he leaves the pocket. It's like he runs in slow motion when he is running to his left or right. DL run him down too often. His open field moves don't fool anyone either. He makes good runs on some designed plays but it frustrates the hell out of me watching him try to run when the pocket breaks.
He was terrible passing in the first half tonight but he did show a lot of improvement in the second half. Likes others have said he is so inconsistent. One quarter he looks great and the next quarter he looks like he has never thrown a football before.
I give him an F. He gets a D based on play and his offseason "incident" automatically dropped him a letter grade.
He showed the occasional glimpse at times this year, but for the most part he is just too terribly inaccurate. He cannot throw downfield with any touch or accuracy whatsoever. On the intermediate stuff he is just consistently inconsistent. He'll make one or two good passes, then he'll miss high on the next 3 (and high is the WORST place to miss with your accuracy).
He is still late on most reads. His best plays come when he either goes to the #1 guy (Corey) or when he's rolling which takes away 3/4 of the field. He cannot sit in the pocket and dissect a defense with any amount of consistency.
What makes all this worse is that he's really not a real great runner. If he gets a hole he'll hit it and get some yards. He'll even run with some power to go through some tacklers. But he doesn't have real great open field vision/moves and he gets chased from behind a lot.
At this point 'm still not going to completely write him off...QBs can make drastic strides in one year if they're willing to put in the effort. Still, I'm going into next season with no concept of who the starting QB will be and it will become whoever plays the best throughout spring/summer. Ii still wouldn't rule out a true frosh taking the job if we were to recruit one that was a stud.
AT gets an F from me, but he can retake the class next year.
i'd give him a B-, if he would have come out with more intensity and accuracy tonight then it'd be a B, he can't help that bad playcalling, anthony is a good guy, all the stupid pot jokes are old, you guys would be appalled to learn some of the other stuff football players do in their free time, all your stupid jokes about weed are old and overused as long as they come to play on game day, lay off em
ctowndown wrote:i'd give him a B-, if he would have come out with more intensity and accuracy tonight then it'd be a B, he can't help that bad playcalling, anthony is a good guy, all the stupid pot jokes are old, you guys would be appalled to learn some of the other stuff football players do in their free time, all your stupid jokes about weed are old and overused as long as they come to play on game day, lay off em
You give him a B-!? A B freaking minus!?
That is above average. At what point in his career has he EVER been above average. Even for one game he's never managed to be above average, let alone multiple games in a row.
I give him a D+. I don't think it is the playcalling. After watching last night I think the fact he misses his receivers, continually throwing high, that snowballs our playcalling into an abysmal mess.
Hit O'Drobinak, put the ball on Corey's number, Corey gets lauded for acrobatic catches but they wouldn't be necessary if the pass was where it was supposedI to be.
Now as far as his running. I would give him a bit of a pass on the running if his throwing game was more accurate. He is a slightly above average scrambler and when he finds the hole at the line he can carry for 3-6 yards. But the fact his aerial assault is lacking it makes his run game that much less effective.
Our offensive coaches and head coach need to seriously revamp our offensive approach and mentality. We led the conference in rushing but we didn't completely commit to it or free up with the needed pass plays in order to be 100% effective.
We have the makings of a run first team with a good 1-2 Macon/Bullock punch, and a good O-Line returning. We have a good possession receiver in Partridge, if we could develop Pronty or Charles in to a deep threat those guys could take the pressure off the run game and we could have a very effective offense again. I still feel the makings are there on the offensive side of the ball.
you seem to have a grudge against him, an F is not acceptable based on the way he finished the season, the last three games have been pretty good, no picks and a half-decent game in the mud bowl...
ctowndown wrote:you seem to have a grudge against him, an F is not acceptable based on the way he finished the season, the last three games have been pretty good, no picks and a half-decent game in the mud bowl...
So good in fact, that he was pulled mid-game numerous times in favor of a true freshman.
His stats aren't bad, but his play has been terrible for the most part. Certainly more bad than good in any case.
I have no grudge. And as I said I refuse to forgive a QB for the offseason incident he had. That cost him one letter grade, I gave him a D based on his actual on field performance. You say that I would be appalled by what some of the other players are doing, but to be quite honest I don't care what most of the other players are doing in the offseason/downtime. The QB is the leader of the team. They are held to a higher standard than any other position. They are expected to command the respect of their teammates, and lead through example. It may not be fair, but that is part of the job of playing QB.
I have yet to see him play "pretty good" for anything more than a half at once, let alone the last 3 games. He was average at the mud bowl. I didn't see the Akron game on TV, but I listened on the radio, and I heard Todd mention many times how AT missed open guys. Yesterday, he was average at best. He still struggled to see the guys until late, and he was very poor with his accuracy. Partridge made a lot of circus grabs to inflate those stats.
As I said, I'd give AT a chance to earn the starting job in the offseason, but no way would I annoint him the surefire starting QB. I'm not a real stats guy, and I don't care what his stats said. Especially when I watched 2 of those last 3 games, and listened to the 3rd on the radio. There were plays to be made in those games, and AT does not make them on a consistent enough basis to earn even an average grade. Hence, a D based on performance, bumped down to an F for his own stupidity.
Shoot...we're on a five game losing streak. I wouldn't annoint ANYONE on this team a sure fire starter (except Partridge).
I will say this in AT's defense. We came out for the second half with some momentum. On third and long AT sets in the pocket, gets his feet settled under him and delivers a perfect throw over the middle to Brantley. Brantley drops it and we're three and out and there went the big Mo
That , along with the idiotic decision to run the screen to Barnes again on 4th and short were the crucial plays in the second half.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
hammb wrote:I give him an F. He gets a D based on play and his offseason "incident" automatically dropped him a letter grade.
He showed the occasional glimpse at times this year, but for the most part he is just too terribly inaccurate. He cannot throw downfield with any touch or accuracy whatsoever. On the intermediate stuff he is just consistently inconsistent. He'll make one or two good passes, then he'll miss high on the next 3 (and high is the WORST place to miss with your accuracy).
He is still late on most reads. His best plays come when he either goes to the #1 guy (Corey) or when he's rolling which takes away 3/4 of the field. He cannot sit in the pocket and dissect a defense with any amount of consistency.
What makes all this worse is that he's really not a real great runner. If he gets a hole he'll hit it and get some yards. He'll even run with some power to go through some tacklers. But he doesn't have real great open field vision/moves and he gets chased from behind a lot.
At this point 'm still not going to completely write him off...QBs can make drastic strides in one year if they're willing to put in the effort. Still, I'm going into next season with no concept of who the starting QB will be and it will become whoever plays the best throughout spring/summer. Ii still wouldn't rule out a true frosh taking the job if we were to recruit one that was a stud.
AT gets an F from me, but he can retake the class next year.
I think this is entirely fair. You're generally a tougher grader than I am, but in this case a D for performance is legit, and the reasons you give are exactly right.
that doesnt make senseyou cant say one player should be held to a higher standard or that you dont care what other players do without giving him a pass on the weed thing, you do seem to have a grudge if you let the weed incident affect your judgment of his talent. i saw the akron game and he played well, he played decent last night and he played as good as you can ask in the conditions of the mud bowl, they shouldnt have pulled him when they did, he threw five passes before he got pulled, they didnt give him a chance, it was like they were giving up, we all know tyler sheehan was not going to bring us back from any deficit, especially after that second pass he threw
