Fire the coach thread....

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bigdog wrote:what is this a conversation, this is a fire the coach thread. I will help get everyone back on track. Coach needs to leave, the team will never be good with him here, on and on and on. haha. There lets get back to business.
All threads will have sidebar conversations....... but then you're the same person that redirects every thread to fire the coach, or we lost because of the coach, or he left the team because of the coach, the airline lost our luggage because of the coach, my toilet backed up because of the coach, McDonald's messed up my order because of the coach.

I agree Scott Paluch is the source to all social ills in the world and should be fired as the head coach for BG. Does that make you happy? Is that what you want to hear?

I think everyone here understands that you don't like the coach.

Not withstanding your rants and well before you came here, I don't know too many people on this board who did not feel this year or next year would make or break Paluch. I don't think he is going to be released mid-season. It would surprise me, but I can't imagine him being part of BG hockey past March 2007.

Now the bombshell.......
I have begun to wonder how much of the malice and venomous behavior conducted by yourself and your cronies have infected the current team. I have to wonder if you and others aren't still infecting the minds of current players. You have stated you talk to the current players and directly interact with them. So how has your malicous attitude affected the play of this team. It's clear the team was playing better the first few games of the season, then you and your cronies appear here and start your campaign of hate towards the coach. How much of that campaign was waged directly with the current team? How much damage have you done to the Falcon Hockey program? It certainly makes me wonder.

So I thank you for your efforts. You seem to have succeeded where Scott Paluch had failed. Falcon Hockey is at its lowest point in its once proud history.

And I close by saying.... FIRE PALUCH and BAN THE FORMER PLAYERS WHO DAMAGED OUR PROGRAM WITH THEIR CAMPAIGN OF HATE.
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Tech83....you continue to call certain posters clowns, and malcontents who have/had no heart while playing for BG, who have now infected this team with their malice and venomous behavior? At this point you my friend are name calling and the one with the venomous attitude, bigdogs post was a bit of sacastic humor, don't take it so serious.

You believe it is all their fault, they believe it's all his...yada yada! I don't think every thing is the coaches fault, but I do believe what I see and bigdog and the other players have backed up what I have seen currently happening on the ice. That is why I believe it is a coaching matter nothing else, for me it is not personal (although I didn't have to live through what the players lived through for 4 years.) I am just reacting to what I see with my own eyes.

Plus, what you fail to realize, as I stated on another thread is that these former players have nothing themselves to gain with this campaign. They went to the AD after their season was over, there by having nothing to gain for themselves, their adgenda is not selfish one. They are thinking of the program, team, and friends hoping something changes so that they may continue enjoy the sport they have put so much of themselves into.

Here's something to think about...these malcontents with no heart that cause such losing season last year and the seasons before that the ones who did buy in to Pooches philosophy (we lost because of them right?). All or most continue to play hockey and are doing quite well. That makes me wonder what made them so bad playing at BG, when now they are doing so well??? What is the difference?
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I have NEVER implied or stated that our players have no heart and so on..... you implied that in the "This Forum Sucks' thread....
blueliners_bg wrote: Perhaps you missed the items about sticks, body fat testing (many say our players aren't big or strong enough could this be why?), disrespect, and dishonesty, all effect how you play.
To me, in that post, you implied our players are do not have the mental strength, fortiture, and heart to overcome adversity. However when I last saw the team Oct 5 in Oxford they played hard, physical, fast. The score did not reflect the actual game. Seemed to me they were overcoming any adversity or mental games that were being dealt. You however seem to be saying that they aren't playing to the full potential because of these things.

I have expressed my support of our players on this forum ...... in the "Assistant Captain Quits" thread
Tech83 wrote:Our current situation aside, unless we were ranked and in contention for a CCHA title or possible NCAA berth, I would never begrudge one of our players from moving on.

Here's a kid who's played well for us, has gotten his education, and probably has some opportunties as a free agent.

Good Luck and thanks for being a Falcon.
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Why did you choose to go to your school? Bowling Green is close to home and I wanted to play for a gritty, hardworking program that competes every night.

Pre-game ritual: First and foremost, I've got to bed down mid-day on a game day. Next, I always like to get to the barn a few hours before warm up to tape my twigs and sit around and visualize what I need to do to help my program that night.

Training Regimen: I take a lot of pride in my off-season regimen. I stay at school year round to improve my speed, strength and agility. I never let myself become satisfied.

Greatest lessons you've learned playing hockey: The game of hockey has taught me everything I know today. One lesson in particular is that you need to be driven to succeed and to never let yourself be satisfied.
However, my questions to bigdog are rherotical. They are for him to contemplate. If the issues were as bad as he says, I am not dismissing them, they certainly need to be addressed. I personally think there are better ways to have handled this entire situation. If he has maintained contact with the team and continued to bash the coach and so on, this WILL have a perverse effect on those players. I am simply wondering ..... out loud.... if this is the case. And if so, he has a heavy burden to bare.

This is probably an issue of youth verses experience in these matters. I worked at at place where we have an someone who left then continued to contact employeess about the firm and always talked negatively about the firm, people in the firm, clients, partners, you name it..... it had a poor effect on some of the staff, who we eventually had to push out the door.

I think the manner in how this has been handled may in turn effect the collegiate careers of some of our players. That is what I am wondering. And I would hate to see that happen.

I think there are two tubs of Kool-aid and everyone is drinking from one tub or the other..... BUT I truly think everyone wants the best for Falcon Hockey. Even you and I.
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Were you drunk when you wrote this?
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FrozenOrange wrote:Were you drunk when you wrote this?
That was uncalled for.
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What was uncalled for was the reception I got from you and the other "old timers' when I joined the chat room during the Clarkson game. Why don't you share that conversation with everyone?
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Bleeding Orange wrote:
FrozenOrange wrote:Were you drunk when you wrote this?
That was uncalled for.
Unfortunately, this is what this has all come down to..... Falcon Fans feeding on Falcon Fans.

I still contend that this situation has been handled in the most unprofessional manner. I don't necessarily blame the original posters, but more their youth and inexperience in something as political as removing a coach.

If I were a former player looking for support from fans on this board, I would have started by selectively PM members of the forum. I would have developed a standard PM explaining the situation, asking for advice and support, some way to build a base of support. I would sever all ties with my former teammated who were still playing. There is no reason to burden them with outside distractions. There is no reason to infect them with my ill feelings about my tenure on the team. I would have contact as many former players who I thought supported my position and view of the coach. Then, in mass, I would have approached the new AD for action.

It seems to me the present course taken has only alienated many people. It certainly has made me wonder about how the present course taken may have affected the team.
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FrozenOrange wrote:What was uncalled for was the reception I got from you and the other "old timers' when I joined the chat room during the Clarkson game. Why don't you share that conversation with everyone?
In fact, we were quite nice to you. You read a lot of things into what we were saying. Like, for instance, when I thought I remebered you saying that you lived in Texas (mistakenly), and you accused me of being drunk and retarded. It was nice when you left.
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Unfortunately, this is what this has all come down to..... Falcon Fans feeding on Falcon Fans.

I still contend that this situation has been handled in the most unprofessional manner. I don't necessarily blame the original posters, but more their youth and inexperience in something as political as removing a coach.

If I were a former player looking for support from fans on this board, I would have started by selectively PM members of the forum. I would have developed a standard PM explaining the situation, asking for advice and support, some way to build a base of support. I would sever all ties with my former teammated who were still playing. There is no reason to burden them with outside distractions. There is no reason to infect them with my ill feelings about my tenure on the team. I would have contact as many former players who I thought supported my position and view of the coach. Then, in mass, I would have approached the new AD for action.

It seems to me the present course taken has only alienated many people. It certainly has made me wonder about how the present course taken may have affected the team.[/quote]

This is the most sensible, responsible and mature post I've read on this board for weeks; maybe months. Thank you.
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The chat room is fast and furious with lots of tongue in cheek comments. You can't taken anything seriously. It's all about having some fun at each others expense. C

I wasn't in the Chat for Clarkson, but you need to come back in and relax and enjoy the show.

And to keep this on target ....... FIRE SOMEBODY!!!!!

FWIW - I probably shouldn't be posting tonight. I went toe-to toe with a contractor who was schedule to finish a project in mid-Feb 2006. Didn't get Substanital Completion issued until June 23, 2006 and now wants his retainer, even though we still have items on the Punch List that have not been completed. So I am in a #$%&@ squirrelly mood. And I take anyone's head off at the drop of a puck. :lol:
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Tech83 wrote:The chat room is fast and furious with lots of tongue in cheek comments. You can't taken anything seriously. It's all about having some fun at each others expense. C

I wasn't in the Chat for Clarkson, but you need to come back in and relax and enjoy the show.

And to keep this on target ....... FIRE SOMEBODY!!!!!

FWIW - I probably shouldn't be posting tonight. I went toe-to toe with a contractor who was schedule to finish a project in mid-Feb 2006. Didn't get Substanital Completion issued until June 23, 2006 and now wants his retainer, even though we still have items on the Punch List that have not been completed. So I am in a #$%&@ squirrelly mood. And I take anyone's head off at the drop of a puck. :lol:
Your previous post didn't look like it was influenced by any squirels... :wink: :lol:

Actually, you said what I have been trying to say for a couple of days around here (although much more eloquently). We are all FALCONS, and we need to remember that.
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Quite nice? First off one of you asked if I was one of the "hate mongers", next it was; "Are you one of the fire the coach gang?", followed by "are you one of the ex-players?" and all this because I said I hadn't bothered posting anymore because I was tired of the same old same old.

The real gem though was right at the end of the game I asked how long it would be before this year's seniors were branded as leadeless. No sooner had I pressed send than someone came right out with it and said how disappointed they were with this year's senior class because they lacked leadership.

Final point. The only reason you thought I may be in Texas is because you think I may be Mike Falk. I'm not.
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Freddie - Thanks - I have my moments.

I feel for bigdog and the other former players in his camp. They feel they were sold a bill-of-goods. They feel their player careers were either shortened, damaged, or threatened. That is plain wrong. They feel they need to show some support for their teammates they left behind. This loyalty is EXTEMEMLY commendable.
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FrozenOrange wrote:Quite nice? First off one of you asked if I was one of the "hate mongers", next it was; "Are you one of the fire the coach gang?", followed by "are you one of the ex-players?" and all this because I said I hadn't bothered posting anymore because I was tired of the same old same old.

The real gem though was right at the end of the game I asked how long it would be before this year's seniors were branded as leadeless. No sooner had I pressed send than someone came right out with it and said how disappointed they were with this year's senior class because they lacked leadership.

Final point. The only reason you thought I may be in Texas is because you think I may be Mike Falk. I'm not.
To touch on your final point, I had no idea that Mike Falk was in TX. I simply thought that you had mentioned living in Texas. Get over it.

And quite frankly, based on the way you conducted yourself in the chat room, I could care less how you felt. We made every effort to be nice to you and you were nothing but abrasive. We usually have a very good time in the chat room and you ruined much of that night.

If you care to continue this conversation, we can do so via PM's. I just wanted to address this so that people don't feel unwelcome in the chat room during games. Everyone is welcome and everyone will be treated well, as you were.
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FrozenOrange wrote:Quite nice? First off one of you asked if I was one of the "hate mongers", next it was; "Are you one of the fire the coach gang?", followed by "are you one of the ex-players?" and all this because I said I hadn't bothered posting anymore because I was tired of the same old same old.

The real gem though was right at the end of the game I asked how long it would be before this year's seniors were branded as leadeless. No sooner had I pressed send than someone came right out with it and said how disappointed they were with this year's senior class because they lacked leadership.

Final point. The only reason you thought I may be in Texas is because you think I may be Mike Falk. I'm not.
Dude - relax. Welcome aboard...... Unfortunately you have joined the board at a time of High Frustration and lots of tension. Don't take any comments personal.

Glad to have you ...... even if you are from Texas..... or the Frozen North..... or freaking Toledo.

Oh yeah.... FIRE SOMEBODY!!!!!
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