Sad, Sad Day

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:43 pm

Dr. Reality wrote: I'm still t uned into the football program, but if things don't get turned around there, well.............

So -- if they don't start winning, you'll stop caring about them? I think you just summed up BG's general fanbase, and a major problem with our athletic programs.

I suppose if they start winning again a few years down the road, you'll magically care again.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:22 am

Dr. Reality wrote:It's a simple observation, but the men's sports programs this Fall, and it will continue through the Winter, just plain suck across the board. I've never seen anything worse. We're low on the totem pole. Hopefully the new athletic director will bring about the necessary changes, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. It will all begin at the recruiting end of it. A healthy c ollection of good athletes can always make things happen inspite of the coaches. Having good athletes is where it all begins. Championships happen when good athletes and good coaches come together. I used to love BG basketball, but Dakish ruined that for me with his assignine sideline behavior as well as the student spectators who've turned into a collection of rudeness. So I don't go to basketball games anymore. I'm still t uned into the football program, but if things don't get turned around there, well.............

You are rediculously fair weather. You're either a fan or you're not, make up your damn mind. In my mind you're not a true fan if you'll only come to the games when our teams are good. Even though our hockey team stinks this year, I've been to the ice arena many times already this year, and same for basketball at AA. I've NEVER missed a home football game since coming to BG. If you're going to support BG athletics, its only right to support our student athletes through good times and bad. I only wish more fans in the northwest Ohio area was more supportive.

After reading this post, I'm thinking of running out of Harshman and ripping down that damn OSU flag across the street.

Dr. Reality · Post by **Dr. Reality** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:35 am

I believe that everyone has the right to post opinions on this board without a lot of sarcastic replies. It's not necessary.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:39 am

bgsufalcon24 wrote:
Dr. Reality wrote:It's a simple observation, but the men's sports programs this Fall, and it will continue through the Winter, just plain suck across the board. I've never seen anything worse. We're low on the totem pole. Hopefully the new athletic director will bring about the necessary changes, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. It will all begin at the recruiting end of it. A healthy c ollection of good athletes can always make things happen inspite of the coaches. Having good athletes is where it all begins. Championships happen when good athletes and good coaches come together. I used to love BG basketball, but Dakish ruined that for me with his assignine sideline behavior as well as the student spectators who've turned into a collection of rudeness. So I don't go to basketball games anymore. I'm still t uned into the football program, but if things don't get turned around there, well.............
You are rediculously fair weather. You're either a fan or you're not, make up your damn mind. In my mind you're not a true fan if you'll only come to the games when our teams are good. Even though our hockey team stinks this year, I've been to the ice arena many times already this year, and same for basketball at AA. I've NEVER missed a home football game since coming to BG. If you're going to support BG athletics, its only right to support our student athletes through good times and bad. I only wish more fans in the northwest Ohio area was more supportive.

After reading this post, I'm thinking of running out of Harshman and ripping down that damn OSU flag across the street.

Do it

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:40 am

Dr. Reality wrote:I believe that everyone has the right to post opinions on this board without a lot of sarcastic replies. It's not necessary.

You have the right to base your following of BG athletics on W/L records, and I have the right to think less of you because of it. You then have the right to not give a flip what I think.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:25 pm

Dr. Reality wrote:I believe that everyone has the right to post opinions on this board without a lot of sarcastic replies. It's not necessary.

I don't think I've ever gotten anything but a sarcastic reply to anything I've posted around here.

I'm sorry for your troubles.

Dr. Reality · Post by **Dr. Reality** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:26 pm

Well, I'll give it one more try. I don't go to athletic events at the collegiate level to support anything other than how I use my time. I go there for the same reason that I go to the movies --- I go to be entertained. And the coaches at that level make big moneys (as do the players) to support that objective. I support the university in many significant ways, but I don't go to football games for that reason. That shouldn't make anybody think less of me. That's rediculous. Conversily, when my grandson plays soccer, I'm there to support him and his team-mates because I am in no way entertained by watching a soccer game. Too bad I can't be both supportive and entertained in the same mode. Where that did happen is when they had men's swimming and track and field. Unfortunately, they dropped both sports so that the football program could sustain it's scholarship requirements. --------- Three years ago I went to a basketball game to see Dakish stomping his feet, screaming and slamming his coat to the ground. Great display of sportsmanship and role modeling. I had to stand for much of the game because a very rude student body chose to stand and shout obscenities. I have never gone back.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:20 pm

If you don't want to stand, don't sit in the student section. I generally sit down at the games, but I know that if everyone else stands, I'll need to stand to see. That's part of sitting in the student section.

There are plenty of other areas to sit in Anderson that will not require you to stand up.

BGFalconfromCincy · Post by **BGFalconfromCincy** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:07 pm

Dr. Reality wrote:Three years ago I went to a basketball game to see Dakish stomping his feet, screaming and slamming his coat to the ground. Great display of sportsmanship and role modeling.

I'm gonna guess your also not a fan of the NFL, NBA, or Bob Knight

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:50 pm

He calls himself Dr. Reality? Wake up doc. Students and fans stand up and cheer at every college event. Coaches at every level stomp their feet and yell.

BGFalconfromCincy · Post by **BGFalconfromCincy** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:32 am

I'll never understand why this is so hard for some, you don't sit behind the student section, no matter how small or big it is

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:01 am

It really is amazing. What can you do?

Dr. Reality · Post by **Dr. Reality** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:13 am

You people are all so clever and common-sense in your responses. I guess I'm just out to lunch in my observations. ----- I won't be writing in the hoops forum again, that's for sure. ------ Woe to any paying "fan" who complains about students blocking his/her view, about out of control coaches who act like idiots, and about losing programs. If you support this kind of nonsense, try to justify it, then this isn't the University that I thought it was. I'm from a different generation.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:03 am

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:17 am

Dr. Reality wrote:You people are all so clever and common-sense in your responses. I guess I'm just out to lunch in my observations. ----- I won't be writing in the hoops forum again, that's for sure. ------ Woe to any paying "fan" who complains about students blocking his/her view, about out of control coaches who act like idiots, and about losing programs. If you support this kind of nonsense, try to justify it, then this isn't the University that I thought it was. I'm from a different generation.

What do you expect man?

I agree that Dakich needs to shut up on the sidelines. He does a LOT of whining, and yelling. He's not the worst coach I've seen, but he's certainly not among the most calm and collected either. That's what he is, I don't care for it, but there are lot of coaches with similar antics.

Yes, it sucks the program is losing right now. They're in a down rut, and hopefully they'll eventually get out of it, but that's part of sports. Not sure what happened in your "generation" but were we good every year? If so, that's awesome, but to quit supporting them because they're bad now seems pretty fairweather to me.

As for the students you're fighting a LOSING battle. There are 4500 seats in Anderson Arena. Not sure when you went to a game last, but I've been to nearly all the games in the past 3 years and for the most part you could've had your choice of about 3000 seats during those years. If you chose to sit in the one section (maybe 1000 of those seats) where people were standing all game long, then I don't feel sorry for you. You could've moved to other seats, or bought tickets for different seats if it was bothering you.

Students stand and might act inappropriate at sporting events. It's expected and you won't change it. Coaches yell and curse at sporting events, it's part of the game. Some team has to lose every game, it's part of sports. If you don't like these aspects of attending a sporting event, I guess you probably don't care for sports much. On it's surface sports is entertainment, like you stated, but to most fans it's much, much more.