NBC.com gets snotty....

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:04 pm

"... Not completely. Boise State is definitely a sexier opponent now, and don't for a moment think that there aren't a few suits in Bristol, Conn., on the horn with Weber State (Sept. 1st) and Bowling Green (Sept. 29) and making them an offer they can't refuse about surrendering their date with Boise State next autumn. I have no proof of this whatsoever, but let's see what happens.".....

Oh...I see, we get lumped in with Weber f**king State now? We were ranked just outside the top 25 two years ago and now we're lumped in with Weber State?

Here's the full article....

http://www.nbcsports.com/cfb/778059/detail.html

It's the Journey... · Post by **It's the Journey...** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:14 pm

With the way we played this season past I can understand where that comment would be made. We are only judged on the last game we played. Two years ago was great, but we are not the team anymore. We can be again, but we are not currently. Until we can maintain success for at least 5 years consecutively we will take our lumps like this. If I were the coach I would use this as bulliten board material.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:29 pm

Flipper wrote:
Oh...I see, we get lumped in with Weber f**king State now? We were ranked just outside the top 25 two years ago and now we're lumped in with Weber State?

Our staff is to blame, not NBC.

I'd take Weber State and the points.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:28 pm

Weeeeber State? hahahaha that's almost as bad as Binghamton!

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:50 pm

Unfortunately, I doubt whether the folks in Boise are waiting on an offer from ESPN to make that call. They were probably already trying to figure out a way to get out of the trip here for next season.

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:57 pm

Yeah, I bet they are also trying to get rid of Wyoming as well.

I doubt they are trying to get us off the schedule. And I also doubt there are many big BCS schools wanting to schedule a game against them next year, let alone any top mid-major wanting to finish with a good record. Of course if they are trying to get out of the contract with us, they must also be trying to drop the ones with Toledo and Miami since Both of them had losing records this year too.

manager · Post by **manager** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:29 pm

The "snooty" isn't new -- just the latest version.

After the last two years, BGSU football deserves little respect. One step forward, six steps back.

Go Florida!

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:38 am

This self-flaggelation never ceases to amaze me.

Last season stunk, but prior to it, we had the best conference record in the MAC over the previous 5 years.

That deserves better than being lumped in with a average I-AA program.

jeebus · Post by **jeebus** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:22 pm

the mac just gets the short end of the stick. i was listening to 700 wlw yesterday and gary burbank was talking about boise. his point was that midmajors have to be taken seriously but one of his co-hosts threw the mac out there and burbank scoffed and said "well not the mac...but the other ones need to be taken seriously" this could be just because 700s out of cinci and cinci is playing against a mac team but he never said "just joking" or anything which makes me wonder.

this was a weak year for the mac in general which hurts us. we really do need about 5 years of consistant giant-slaying before we'll become established and respected... but after that anymore then 2 years of lesser performance and we're back in the doghouse.

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:56 pm

jeebus wrote:the mac just gets the short end of the stick. i was listening to 700 wlw yesterday and gary burbank was talking about boise. his point was that midmajors have to be taken seriously but one of his co-hosts threw the mac out there and burbank scoffed and said "well not the mac...but the other ones need to be taken seriously" this could be just because 700s out of cinci and cinci is playing against a mac team but he never said "just joking" or anything which makes me wonder.

this was a weak year for the mac in general which hurts us. we really do need about 5 years of consistant giant-slaying before we'll become established and respected... but after that anymore then 2 years of lesser performance and we're back in the doghouse.

I find the comment made by Burbank over on 700 WLW particularly insulting. 700 WLW's pride and joy UC is not only a founding member of the MAC, but they also have a losing record against MAC teams. Heck, UC is 0-4 all-time against BG. I don't think any radio station that covers UC football has any business knocking down the MAC

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:13 pm

JoeFalcon wrote:This self-flaggelation never ceases to amaze me.

Last season stunk, but prior to it, we had the best conference record in the MAC over the previous 5 years.

That deserves better than being lumped in with a average I-AA program.

And we won how many MAC Championships in that time?

Listen folks. Here's the deal. Once MAC teams can beat major college teams, year in and year out, we will start to get respect. But knocking off a Purdue, Pitt, or Missouri every once in a while isn't going to cut it when MAC teams MORE consistently get hammered by the Purdues, Pitts, Missouris, Wisconsins, Ohio States, Michigans, etc. Michigan, Ohio State, or Notre Dame didn't just start a football team and were automatically dubbed football powers. They had to win, and win consistently, every year! The 4 win seasons with these teams are rare to nonexistent!

“But...but...Capital! The last few seasons we had winning records and beat Purdue!” Right...And before that, we were horrible for just as many seasons. Why does the whole state of Ohio seem to be filled with rabid, zombie-esque Buckeye fans??? They are the ONLY team in the entire state that pretty much wins every year! Let’s see what Ohio State looks like if they have a decade or more with only a 3-4 winning seasons. Was it a fluke that when the Indians were consistently one of the best in baseball season after season you couldn't get a ticket to the Jake? People like winners!

You want more respect in the MAC, you don’t get blown off the field, game after game, whenever you play the big boys. Beat Wisconsin, you gain respect. Beat Minnesota, you gain respect. Beat Michigan State, you gain respect. But you can’t just do it once every 4 years or so when the stars are aligned. You have to do it every season, or at the very least, beat those teams occasionally and never get blown out. If this past season, the MAC knocked off 2-3 major football programs, and lost to the rest of the major teams by no more than a touchdown or field goal, Burbank wouldn’t be laughing. A few years ago, the MAC had a great season and knocked off some big guys. Everyone was excited about being called the “MAC Daddies” by ESPN, we were talking about BG might be moving to a BCS conference, yadda, yadda, yadda. But that's exactly what it was. One great season. Since then, the MAC has returned to mid-major football as usual. Until the conference can consistently put up seasons like that, we will not be respected. Everyone can talk about how the MAC gets the short-end of the stick. We really don’t. Until we can consistently show that there are teams in the conference can compete every year with anyone in the country, we get exactly what we deserve.

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:18 pm

This isn't about respect in D-1A. It is about being recognized as a D-1A school and not lumped in with D-1AA, or D-2 schools. We don't have to be world beaters, but please have the common sense to realize that we do compete in D-1A football, and are not a "bad" program. BG is better the D-1AA and should not be confused as being one of those teams.

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:28 pm

I do believe that becoming a D-1AA program/conference was/is quite a concern considering the NCAA rules. And there were some people here that did not think that would necessarily be a horrible thing.

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:35 pm

CapitalFalcon wrote:I do believe that becoming a D-1AA program/conference was/is quite a concern considering the NCAA rules. And there were some people here that did not think that would necessarily be a horrible thing.

1) You are mistaken about the rules, there is not a penalty of moving down. The penalty deals with bowl eligibility. ( hell, there are teams moving up to 1A that have not met the attendance requirement) Anyway, This as been discussed quite bit.
2) We are not D-1AA, To be lumped with a 1AA team when we are not is insulting to the team, in my opinion.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:51 pm

CapitalFalcon wrote:I do believe that becoming a D-1AA program/conference was/is quite a concern considering the NCAA rules. And there were some people here that did not think that would necessarily be a horrible thing.

If BG were to drop to I-AA, you might as well blow up the program. You think we have attendance/recruiting/competitive problems now? They'd be ten times worse if we were to drop levels.

And as far as the topic goes, getting lumped in with Weber fricking State is just terrible. NBC has to know better than that.

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