What seed will BG end up with?

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What seed will BG end up with?

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Bowling Green's womens basketball team is probably a top 25 team the rest of the year... will they garner a 4 or 5 seed for the tourney or will they be snubbed and be left being a 8/9?
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redskins4ever wrote:Bowling Green's womens basketball team is probably a top 25 team the rest of the year... will they garner a 4 or 5 seed for the tourney or will they be snubbed and be left being a 8/9?


I have no idea yet at this point what we could be seeded at but 4 or 5 just seems abit out of the question. Those seeds seem reserved for the elite top 10 programs in the country and don't see the commitee giving us that kind of love. Seeds #7-10 are more likely. If we get anything lower than #10 with us winning out, I will likely have to be restrained from driving over the to commitee place and personally laying a smackdown on the voters. :smt021
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dude... what are you smoking... if you take the top 20 teams in the nation... and hand out of the top 5 seeds... thats 20 teams... BG should end up around 15-20 given one or two mac loses (if that should happen)

Why would a top 10 elite program end up with a 4/5 seed?
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Our projected RPI right now, if we win all of our games, would be around 22. combine that with a top 15 ranking in both polls (presumably), and I would have to think we end up in the 5-6 range. I love a 6 seed.
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The womens selection committee is notoriously bad. BG was at least two seeds too low (or is it high?) last year. This year, BG's ranking and RPI should be better. Win out and I think the team will merit at least a 5 seed, but I wouldn't be surprised if they got shafted with a worse seed. I'd be happy with anything 7 or better, since 10 is way too low and if they were 8 or 9 they would have to play a 1 in the second round.
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all this talk of tourney seedings got me thinking......

what if the absolute worst thing in the world happened...the girls win every remaining game...and then hell freezes over and they get upset in the MAC championship game. They would still be ranked in the top 25 and their RPI would still probably be no worse than 30-35 so their resume would be rock solid but given the reputation that the committee has for screwing the MAC.....do they get an at-large bid?


pardon me now while I go wash my mouth out with soap for mentioning such a horrible scenario.
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IMO, BG has gained enough national respect that I think we're in good shape for an at-large unless the wheels completely fall off.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:IMO, BG has gained enough national respect that I think we're in good shape for an at-large unless the wheels completely fall off.
What he said. MAC losses will hurt because the RPIs are so weak in many cases, but it would seem that we could afford one or two and still make a strong case for an at large.
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What concerns me is a 9 seed.

My problem with getting a 5-6 seed is that we don't have a signature win.

Indiana, Temple, Delaware and a close loss to Duke.

I am not sure that is enough to really make the committee stand up and say BG deserves their ranking.
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Falcon30 wrote:What concerns me is a 9 seed.

My problem with getting a 5-6 seed is that we don't have a signature win.

Indiana, Temple, Delaware and a close loss to Duke.

I am not sure that is enough to really make the committee stand up and say BG deserves their ranking.
I understand the sentiment, but here are some other teams, ranked ahead of us, that don't have a signature win right now, and their best wins (in terms of RPI):

Oklahoma (Depaul, KSU)

ASU (UW, WKU)

MSU (Indaina twice, South Florida)

Vandy (WKU, South Florida)

I'm sure there are some others


These teams will have some chances in conference play that we don't, but over the portion of our schedule that we can control, our profile matches up favorably. I think the committee will look hard at the overall profile for seeding. If we beat ball state, we'll be 4-2 vs the RPI top 50, and 2-1 vs the RPI top 25. We'll probably be around 20 in the RPI, and in the top 15 in the rankings. We'll also have a winning streak around 20, a home winning streak over 30, and a conference winning streak around 40. These are some dangerous assumptions, but it's implied in the seeding discussion that we only have 2 losses.

For a team with that profile, on a huge winning streak, it looks like a 5-6 seed is deserved.

At least I hope. I'm nervous too. I'm interested in the next bracketology predictions.
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The way things are going, I don't see the women tripping up anywhere in MAC play or in the MAC tournament. What might benefit them the most is teams with higher RPIs and rankings losing games. BG doesn't need to beat anyone stellar for respect, just some help from the teams ahead of them. I wouldn't be shocked if they got a 6 ot 7 seed in the tourney, and hopefully somewhere close.
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Speaking of Bracketology, today's edition has us as a rising 7 seed.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/bracketology
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Speaking of Bracketology, today's edition has us as a rising 7 seed.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/bracketology
They also have us predicted in the Hartford Conn. Rnd. 1 game. :roll: Pittsburg people, Pittsburgh!
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Falcon30 wrote:What concerns me is a 9 seed.

My problem with getting a 5-6 seed is that we don't have a signature win.

Indiana, Temple, Delaware and a close loss to Duke.

I am not sure that is enough to really make the committee stand up and say BG deserves their ranking.

if they win out, they'll be top 15 in both polls and their RPI will be in the 22-25 neighborhood. For most schools, that would get a top 4 seed easily. BG's "punishment" for not belonging to a major conference and not having a signature win would probably involve being seeded down to a 6. I still think that 6 is the magic number. 5 is not as much of a stretch as was stated earlier in this thread but 6 is the number with the target on it.
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If they win out is a big if, but it isn't like it hasn't happened 2 years in a row. I Love that 5-6 seed range, and I don't have a problem with being a rising 7 right now (even though he said he 'randomly' assigned seeds in the mediocre 5-11 seed range).

Just keep winning, ladies, and a 5 or 6 seed is a possibility.

Just not sure in bracketology how Pittsburgh is a rising 7 after losing 2 straight.
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