Dan recruits a defensive tackle? (Bozo got it wrong....)

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Flipper wrote: Dan is supposed to not recruit now because it wouldn't be fair to the (as yet unkonwn) guy who may or may not replace him?

He's supposed to operate from the assumption that he won't be here next year while trying to get this year's team to play for him. Yeah, those kids will really want to work for a coach who deosn't recruit because he might not be around next year...maybe he should ask them ahead of time to help him pack this March...maybe they could help write the ad for the house when it gos on the market.
This is about where I come down. Dakich is the head coach and should operate as normal until that is no longer the case.

I don't think you want the new coach, if there is one, to be picking only from the kids that are left over at that time. Otherwise, we might have to have a walk-on run the point for us. Wait....
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I want the new coach to have the option of picking his own guys, not the guys that another coach who is no longer deemed capable of doing the job picked.
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bobio wrote:It seems to me that bleedingorange is quite happy with mediocrity or simply likes the coaches on a personal level. In the 40 years that I have been a Falcon fan, I have never seen the three coaches of all the men's major sports be so bad. It hurts even more that it happens all at once. Let's face it, DD's teams will be DD's teams. He has had more than enough time to right the ship. His team will never win a conference championship. Looking at the most recent scholarship offer only verifies that. Hopefully, any offers he makes now can be rescinded when we get a new coach.
I'm not happy with mediocrity, by any means. There are many people on this board who know me, and each and everyone of them will tell you how deeply I care for BGSU, and how integral I believe the success of University's athletic programs I believe to be intertwined with the continued success of the University as a whole. Nothing will ever make me change this point of view.

I respect the fact that you have been a Falcon fan for a long time, but I believe that to be a non-issue when it comes to wanting what is best for the institution, so why bring it up? Furthermore, I understand your concerns about BGSU Hoops under Coach D., and I certainly don't have a personal relationship with the man that would blind me to problems with the program that he is leading. As I said several posts ago, were it not for the vehement, and often unfounded, resentment of Coach D., I would probably feel very differently about this situation than I do right now. So he went to WVU, realized that he made a bad decision? GET THE F**K OVER IT. I'm sick and tired of hearing about it.

When Dakich came back, he had players that believed in him for a couple of years (the upperclassmen). When they graduated, a couple of egotistical underclassmen (when he went to WVU) took umbrage to his leaving, and they no doubt made their feelings known to not only their fellow players, but recruits as well. Fault Dakich for that if you want, but the fact of the matter is that we are not only dealing with 18-22 year-old guys here, but we are also dealing with 18-22 year-old guys that play a sport that (in recent decades) inherently instills a "me, me, me!" attitude in players. Recognizing the fact that Dakich is not simply a figurehead, but is a man, with a family, who has his own human concerns, I can not say that it has been his "stubborn nature" (as is an oft-accused character trait around here) that has lead to the current position of BGSU Hoops.

Now, as I said before, I don't know how I would feel about this situation were it not for the incessant drubbing that Dan has received around here. As I said, Dan is a human being and not the automaton that some around here would make him out to be. If you don't agree with his logistical decisions (as in the case of hammb), then great! I can totally respect that. But, if you are going to come at me with only a statement resembling "well...uh...Dan's tenure has been mediocre," then you aren't going to get a wink of sympathy from me.

And your last two sentences, bobio, are simply the pinnacle of ignorance.
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The only way that will happen is if the AD announces Dakich will finish the rest of this season and be finished. And a new coach has already been hired to take over when the season concludes. Short of that, DD will continue to act as though he will be the head coach next year. If he stops doing that, then he should resign immediately.
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OptionQB wrote:I want the new coach to have the option of picking his own guys, not the guys that another coach who is no longer deemed capable of doing the job picked.
He will whether Dakich recruits kids or not. The point is you can't just stop the program because the coach might not be asked to return. That just isn't how it works, here, or anywhere.

Should Gregg Brandon not recruit any kids in 2008 if he doesn't (please God) have an extension in place?

You're actually advocating that we do absolutely no basketball recruiting whatsoever until after Dakich signs an extension or a new coach is hired? For real?
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My understanding is that until the LOI is signed nobody has a binding agreement on either the side of the school or the player. So Dan is recruiting now, but signing day is not until the spring. The verbal commitments are free to change their minds in the meantime, and it is my understanding that the school is allowed to as well. There WILL be a coach in place by the time signing day rolls around; be it an extension for Dan or a new hire, somebody will be the coach by signing day. If the new coach doesn't want to bring on the verbal commits from Dan's tenure, then I'm pretty sure he has that option so long as the LOI has not been signed.

Still, Dan must recruit as though he'll be here next year. He's building relationships with players to not only himself, but also to the school.
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OptionQB wrote:I want the new coach to have the option of picking his own guys, not the guys that another coach who is no longer deemed capable of doing the job picked.
What if Dan is retained, and does not recruit now because he thinks he won't be?
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hammb wrote:My understanding is that until the LOI is signed nobody has a binding agreement on either the side of the school or the player. So Dan is recruiting now, but signing day is not until the spring. The verbal commitments are free to change their minds in the meantime, and it is my understanding that the school is allowed to as well. There WILL be a coach in place by the time signing day rolls around; be it an extension for Dan or a new hire, somebody will be the coach by signing day. If the new coach doesn't want to bring on the verbal commits from Dan's tenure, then I'm pretty sure he has that option so long as the LOI has not been signed.

Still, Dan must recruit as though he'll be here next year. He's building relationships with players to not only himself, but also to the school.

DD's contract is up on 3/10. If he doesn't get exteneded, Burrell will have a full month before the spring signing period to pick a new school. Things will work out for both sides in this case.

For DD, continuing to work and recruit is a very simple matter of obligation and pride.
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That guy on Michigan preps doesn't know sh*t

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Well, he does have some decent size for a def tackle. Maybe we will move him back to TE in two years. :oops:
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bleedingorange: It's clear that you have sympathy for DD as a human being. that is well and good. Perhaps you should be a priest or social worker. However, when it comes to his coaching abilities, he is severely lacking. You can love him and feel for him and hold him when he pees if you like. It still doesn't change the fact that a change of coaches is needed as soon as possible. As for your name calling, I have another cheek awaiting your response.
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