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bgmaggot00 · Post by **bgmaggot00** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:07 pm

Count me as there. Heck of a lot closer than Ohio.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:36 am

PGY Tiercel wrote:Thanks the update. That pretty much confirms our OOC schedule with Minnesota, Boise, Navy and Boston College.

That's a solid non-conference schedule. I like it, two home games and two away contest. There are some nice road trips there and some solid home games as well. We'll certainly have to play well to win any of these games. I just hope we can get back to BG Football and get things turned around next season.

jeebus · Post by **jeebus** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:50 am

sounds like it could be great...or bite is in the...well...u know

we REALLY need to turn on the after burners and win a few of these...

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:30 am

CapitalFalcon wrote:You can't have it both ways...You can't moan and complain that national media (or local media) don't give us any credit, and then complain that our OOC is too tough. We have nothing to lose with schedules like this. If we get the crap beat out of us, it has minimal effect as we are "expected" to get blown out. We keep that game close and lose, we gain some respect. We beat a big team and we gain even more respect. That's the name of the game...Purdue was how long ago and we are STILL talking about it? Time the team steps up and starts performing at the level at which many people on this site believe they can perform!

What do you mean I can't have it both ways? I'm a fickle fan and demand to have everything my way and have it NOW!

Honestly, I don't want it both ways. I just want some balance. To that point, here is the tentative 2007 OOC schedule:

@ Minnesota
@ Boston College
NAVY
BOISE STATE

Say, instead, it were this ...

@ Minnesota
@ BC
NAVY
SE MIZZOU STATE

or this
@ Minnesota
SE MIZZOU STATE
NAVY
BOISE STATE

Another thought, as stated, splitting our current OOC schedule would be quite an accomplishment. If we pull that off and go 5-3 in the MAC, that puts us at 7-5, which is not bad by any means, but certainly not going to gain us a great deal of respect nationwide. Correspondingly, a 1-3 OOC record would leave us at 6-6 and an 0-4 OOC record would leave us at 5-7. At 5-3, we could win the MAC East (as we've seen recently); imagine going into the MACC at 5-7 and losing; I can't even imagine the discussions on ESPN. Honestly, stumbling in at 5-7 and winning would make us a 6-7 conference champion. Can't wait for the media to strike up the band for a rousing chorus of "BGSU Proves That The Bowl System Sucks."

Let's say we instead went with one of my hypothetical schedules and went 3-1 OOC. With the same 5-3 MAC record, we're 8-4. Does that gain us a great deal of national respect? Probably not, but it looks a shade better.

I understand that you've got to play good teams, but I still like this basic formula for our OOC schedule ...

* AWAY against a top-shelf BCS-conference team (Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc.)
* HOME/AWAY series with a mid- to lower-level BCS-conference team (Minnesota, N'western, Mizzou)
* HOME/AWAY series with a non-BCS conference team (Boise State, Wyoming)
* HOME against a I-AA team (this means we can be assured of a home game early in the season)

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:47 am

I kind of agree, '87, but I guess not really. How's that for having it both ways?

Guaranteed wins/home dates are all well and good, but I think when we have the opportunity to get teams like Boise and Navy in the Doyt, we have to pull the trigger. @ BC is a winnable game most years, and I think we're getting a return trip from Minny at some point. From a nat'l respect standpoint, I would ten times over rather us go 1-3 against this shedule, than 2-2 against a weaker one that included a 1-AA.

As far as setting up to win the MAC, which should be the goal at this point, this is a double-edged sword. On one hand, the great competition will get us ready for the MAC better than most schools, but on the other hand, the great competition could beat the living piss out of us and leave us bloodied and bruised, limping into the MAC with less than a full deck. From that standpoint, I may lean towards your setup a little bit more.

There's pros and cons to both approaches, but I would rather see us take on all comers.

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:01 am

I'm excited just to see us play different teams. I may try to go to all 4 OCC games.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:05 am

The Boise and Navy games will have buzz because of how good Boise is, and the history of Navy. Both are bowl teams. But I think we lose the Boise game before it starts. Navy can be beat, but they are a far better program than they have been, and I don't know if BGSU will have the offense to answer 10 minute drives.

The road games are dead losses. This team doesn't have the spine or coaching to win. If they do, it'll be the shockers of the early season.

We may actually have a chance to do much better in the MAC. But a winning record with four odds-on losses, thats a steep hill to climb.

Yes, they had to schedule them, you can't walk away from a schedule like that. But you also hope and pray you can either win or look good losing. I'm not sure they can do either.

In the end, its a really groovy cover story for the administration with the staff stinks up the Doyt next year. If they don't actually turn things around. I won't bury them yet.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:21 am

With my expectations for the next two years, I'd actually be pleasantly surprised with 1-3 for this schedule. You're right -- Navy does look like the "easiest" win. But that's a damn good and fundamental team. It would be great to knock them off.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:46 am

They have become the best option team among the service academies. Air Force is still great, but the Middies have the edge these days. The middies won’t have many, if any penalties. Such is the nature of service academy football in general. They’ll eat massive chunks of clock. I recall that game they had two years ago, that actually spanned from the early minutes of the third quarter, until early in the fourth quarter.

Not that I’d expect anybody to be nasty to Middies, but I hope BGSU’s fans and such give those kids a friendly warm welcome, invite the kids to the tailgates, feed them amply. That seemed to be the tradition at Notre Dame, the four times I’ve seen them or Air Force hosted at South Bend. People treat them more like house guests than football rivals. It’s a rare chance for guilt-free sportsmanship.

I’m sure the local Navy Alumni chapters will be there en force as they were in 1994.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:12 pm

As far as setting up to win the MAC, which should be the goal at this point, this is a double-edged sword. On one hand, the great competition will get us ready for the MAC better than most schools, but on the other hand, the great competition could beat the living piss out of us and leave us bloodied and bruised, limping into the MAC with less than a full deck. From that standpoint, I may lean towards your setup a little bit more.

I think this is offset by 2 factors:

1) We're not playing a top-shelf BCS team (e.g., Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn) who would physically beat the hell out of us and have a lasting negative effect.
2) We're only playing 6 (rightfully) games on the road, instead of what seems to be non-BCS norm of 7 (or in our case last year, 8) games away from home. We can avoid the extra fatigue by avoiding the extra travel.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:22 pm

I think we'd have no qualms about that schedule if we were coming off a division title.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:11 am

Schadenfreude wrote:I think we'd have no qualms about that schedule if we were coming off a division title.

I don't think we'd have qualms about any schedule if we were coming off a division title!

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:04 pm

1987alum wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:I think we'd have no qualms about that schedule if we were coming off a division title.
I don't think we'd have qualms about any schedule if we were coming off a division title!

True, true. I think everybody is just overly pessimistic about next year right now because of how last year ended. Come August, I doubt we'll see much of that.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:06 pm

You've been here on this board for how long?

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:02 pm

bgsufalcon24 wrote:
1987alum wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:I think we'd have no qualms about that schedule if we were coming off a division title.
I don't think we'd have qualms about any schedule if we were coming off a division title!
True, true. I think everybody is just overly pessimistic about next year right now because of how last year ended. Come August, I doubt we'll see much of that.

Ummmmm, wanna put a little money on that?