Clarrett Implicates Tressel and tOSU

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:29 pm

Jham wrote:Kdog and I have established that we have ties to the Youngstown area, and although I'm not sure he grew up there, it sounds like his brother could back up the following..

ALl of this is SHOCKING because of the type of guy Tressel is. Being from that area, he was everything to Youngstown when he was there and they won three straight (four overall?) D 1-AA titles...He was a God, and there was nothing of this sort to come out of that program...That's why I kind of take umbrage with the toss Tressell comments. I am anti-OSU as anyone, but I have a feeling Tressel knows little about what goes on behind the scenes there from boosters. He wants to win, but in my opinion, he would not go this route to do it.

Basically, all of the stuff Clarett is accusing, in my opinion, could not have been orchestrated by Tressel.

Having said that, it does seem like he is in a bit over his head down there, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I hate OSU, but Tressel is certainly not the problem there.

Jham, Clarett lived in Youngstown and went to school at Warren Harding because Youngstown city schools suck in football. I imagine he lived their all of life because my brother has dealt with Clarett's cousins, aunts etc. I remember one of the his aunts was in my brothers office a year or two go screaming about how her son was ineligible because of grades. ...it might have even been his brother and mom but if memory serves me correct it was a cousin

Jham · Post by **Jham** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:32 pm

Trust me, I know all about his history in HS in NE Ohio...I played basketball withhim his freshman year, and he left because Fitch's coach didn't play him enough. Went to Harding, ran for 5 TDs in the pkayoffs the next year.

What I was hoping you could second and perhaps your brother could too is that this is all shocking because of the way Tressel conducted business while at YSU. In his time there, there was not one impropriety there that I can recall, and he was widely regarded as the most influential person in the city and the whole Mahoning Valley (besides Traficant and the mob, of course).

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:36 pm

well i will have to ask him later, but yeah I believe Tressel is a class guy. Clarett's a baby. He needs some attention because his stock in the NFL is about worthless.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:38 pm

kdog27 wrote:well i will have to ask him later, but yeah I believe Tressel is a class guy. Clarett's a baby. He needs some attention because his stock in the NFL is about worthless.

I'm not sure Clarett is a baby I think it's more to the fact that he was made into a God as a freshman because of his athletic ability and because he won them a "national championship" but as soon as something went wrong they kicked him to the curb. I think that would bruise anyone's ego.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:47 pm

this kid has been a pain for a long time. Even his freshmen year before all the stuff with the NFL draft he was always crying about something. Tricky, don't get me wrong, I hate OSU and would not mind seeing these things be true. But it's coming from a real credible source (sarcasm. the same guy who claimed to have thousands of dollars stolen from his car). I personally think he has realized that he is already washed up. Let's face it, he hasn't played in a game in two seasons and it will be nearly three before he does. And he is always got nagging injuries. Doesn't look too good to the NFL. Clarett was tired of nobody talking about him, now he has got people talking about him again. Just go away Clarett

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:17 pm

factman wrote:There are supposedly two other players, Marcus Cooper and Sammy Maldanado, that are telling the same or similar stories. This could get REAL interesting!!!

Only problem is that these guys left the team for drugs, etc. so they certainly have an axe to grind.

BelieveNBG · Post by **BelieveNBG** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:30 pm

Big time programs have big time boosters that spend big time money on their players. It's a fact. The only problem is that it is usually a well kept fraternity-type secret. The schools know it, the coaches know it, the players know it...it's just the way it is. What happpened at Michigan, did not only happen at Michigan. They were just the only school to get caught. The bottom line is that Clarrett is pissed, so he decided to talk about it publically. Usually, the players receiving this type of support are so happy about it, they would never tell.

pardonfan · Post by **pardonfan** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:33 pm

Exactly.. look who we are dealing with here. Wastes of space. Marco Cooper could have been one of the best linebackers at OSU. He was in trouble constantly. Maldanado, gone. ESPN mentions another player who also is no longer with the team and then McNutt and he sides with OSU.

McMets, is that a serious statement? Jim Tressel is one of the classiest guys out there, I dont care if you love OSU or hate OSU. I can't imagine too many people who will take 'talk' serious unless they find something. They already did an investigation. Why is Clarett saying this stuff now? Why not during the investigation? Why is ESPN 'investigating'? That is the NCAA's job. And if they want to be considered credible at all, they would wait until they found the truth before they reported on garbage from people like Mo Clarett and Marco Cooper. Unreal.

bgbrandon · Post by **bgbrandon** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:40 pm

McMetz811 wrote:This is awesome! I hope it's all true and Tressel gets tossed!

Yea, Mike, good idea, RETARD...who do you think would be the next head coach there....hmmmm URBAN MEYER! Also Tressel is a guy that does everything by the rules, and Clarett on the other hand, wow hes such a good kid and we should believe everything this guy says! Please guys...ESPN is just reporting what a 21 Year old punk came to tell them to try and get back at the University. I think Clarett is digging a deeper hole everytime his name is in the news. But if tressel does happen to get fired, Urban will be back in Ohio....

bgmike29 · Post by **bgmike29** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:50 pm

I agree with pardonfan...........

Tressel is one of the most classiest guys in college football if not in all of sports.

BGSU99 · Post by **BGSU99** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:54 pm

I'm not sure what is going to come out of this. It seemed the NCAA left no stone unturned in their previous investigation. I'm an OSU grad (I don't mention this on here too often because this board is all about BGSU and I try to keep it that way), so I have a little bit of a bias here, but I'm more likely to believe Jim Tressel than Maurice Clarett, a kid who has a history of lying about things (lied to the NCAA 17 times during the first investigation), Marco Cooper (kicked off the team because a gun and drugs were found in his vehicle), and Sammy Maldonado (couldn't make the grade or see the field at OSU, so he transferred to Maryland where he has already been suspended on two different occasions). I find it a little laughable that anyone would believe these three thugs over a reputable coach like Jim Tressel. I also don't buy into the "poor Maurice was taking one for the team" theory. He's way too selfish to "take one" for anybody else. This kid realizes his NFL stock is just about zero and is just trying to get himself in the news again. If I'm an NFL GM, no way do I want him or his baggage in my organization. Hopefully OSU will be cleared of any wrongdoing (again) should the NCAA decide to conduct another investigation. I would think the NCAA would have discovered these things during their previous investigation if they were really going on. As for ESPN The Rag, their magazine sucks, so I guess they needed something like this to sell copies. It seems they didn't do anything to veriffy these allegations, they just corroborated them (got someone else to agree with Clarett). They would have done better to actually get some credible sources to corroborate this rather than a few thugs who have an axe to grind against OSU. This whole thing just makes me thankful to also have BGSU to support. I doubt if we ever see anything like this at Bowling Green. The kids here go to class and graduate and they're not a bunch of punks who think the rules don't apply to them (like MC does) then do everything they can to drag BGSU through the mud. Well, hope to see all of you in the tent Saturday against Marshall ... we have a game to win!

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:46 am

BelieveNBG wrote:Big time programs have big time boosters that spend big time money on their players. It's a fact. The only problem is that it is usually a well kept fraternity-type secret. The schools know it, the coaches know it, the players know it...it's just the way it is. What happpened at Michigan, did not only happen at Michigan. They were just the only school to get caught. The bottom line is that Clarrett is pissed, so he decided to talk about it publically. Usually, the players receiving this type of support are so happy about it, they would never tell.

That's right. Captures my thoughts right on. To the guys from Youngstown, I would propose this possibility. Tressel was clean at Youngstown State. Big-time college athletics is, as mentioned above, a far more corrupt enterprise, and Tressel went along with the culture once he got there.

Just an idea.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:32 am

A lot of what Maurice alleges happens everywhere, and I'm not limiting it to just big time college athletics either. I would bet that a lot of it happens at MAC schools, and even BG. Kids given cakewalk summer jobs, a few bucks here or there, etc.

That said, I'm with Ed on this that I don't believe Maurice in the scale of which he's stating these things happened. If this was really going on to the extent that he says I would imagine the NCAA would've found something the first time through. Almost everything that Maurice is now yapping about was part of the original investigation at OSU less than a year ago. I'm sure the NCAA will come in again and do another investigation, but I doubt very seriously if they'll find anything new to report.

The fact is the bodies involved in making these accusations are about as credible as your average criminal.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:51 am

I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of Mo C's mouth.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:22 pm

More on this issue from ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867

Believe what you will about Clarett's reputation (I tend to side with the masses on this one, actually. He's as sketchy as an MC Escher print.), but I'll believe that BGSU is in Kentucky before I think Tressel is "the classiest guy in the game".

(Oh, and a familiar name pops up around the third segment.)

Clarrett Implicates Tressel and tOSU

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