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svillefalcon wrote:as long as sidney ribeau is here, we will not get a new ice arena :wink:
No doubt...Sidney Poitier...lol is not an athletically minded Pres...and he will be around for a long long time.

If we had the ability to build a new facility, i would like to see one that is built down...ie Bowl like similar to Dartmouths rink then add to it a surface of 60.9m x 29.9 m vs our smallest allowable. I think the subterranean surface would be easier to maintain in warmer months and be more consistent in the winter. the largest allowable sheet improves the game IMHO and allows for transitions to smaller surfaces easier than small to large.

In our facility we can still add seating to the south end, we can fight with the roof that has never been right ( I think they should tear it off and build in a nice pitched roof, move in on the west side and put in some nice Boxes ...and by nice I mean boxes that are comparable to the stadium club at the doyt with inside and outside seating, food and drink. Then with new roof add a nice suspended score board with tvs above center ice.

yet I must say after having attended the 2001 cold war record setting attendace game of 75,000 plus...Image
i think we set up the doyt for this on a regular basis for post football season hockey!!! and take the game back out on to the pond!!! now that would be killer
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It's the Journey... wrote:We don't need to waste money on a great sound system unless we are going to get a totally new ceiling. That tin roof that helps the place get so loud with only 2000 people in there is what kills the acoustics.
The acoustics aren't the problem with the PA system. The system itself is old and does not always work right. Speakers cut in and out all the time. I don't want to see a lot of money spent on a PA, but a whole new system is needed.

As for a second sheet of ice, it would be nice, but the Ice Arena does not have enough business to support two sheets. The problem the Ice Arena has is everybody wants the ice at the same time.
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I'd say the Arena being used 18 hours/day is not a lack of groups using it...
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BGDrew wrote:I'd say the Arena being used 18 hours/day is not a lack of groups using it...
It might be open 18 hours a day, but the ice isn't booked solid. Add in the expense of maintaining a second sheet that will be sparsely used and you think you have people complaining about the cost of ice now....
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back a couple years ago several groups looked at building an ice rink either on N 25 near levis commons or just north of Thayer Chevrolet. in the end all groups...I think there were 4 decieded that it would not be feasable. This was not due to not being able to sell ice time, or not selling enough, but in this day and age of lawyers gone wild...liability was the bigest issue and the small groups were not willing to do it. i still think a small even outside rink maintained by the city at the park would fair well as oposed to that street hockey rink only.
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As for a second sheet of ice, it would be nice, but the Ice Arena does not have enough business to support two sheets. The problem the Ice Arena has is everybody wants the ice at the same time.
This is exactly why we need a second sheet of ice. We could handle twice as many groups during peak ice time. That would more than pay for itself because we would not have high school teams and community teams looking for other sheets of ice because the only times available are 2 in the morning. Two sheets of ice will actually allow us to gain more business and not just keep what we have.

As far as the cracks on Dr. Ribeau are concerned, God forbid he doesn't pay attention to the needs of ONE department. He does have an entire University to run, not just the athletic department. And without those other departments, there would be no need for an athletic department. He is doing what he can with the resources available. But the primary concern must always be what is in the best interest of the University as a whole, not what is in the best interest for Falcon athletics. Needs like classrooms, residence halls, and infrastructure will outweigh athletic every time. And in my opinion, that is why BGSU is the University it is today. We are not an athletically driven university that measures success in how many pro athletes we produce. We measure success in things like graduation rates. That is what a University should do, and I am proud that we do.
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It's the Journey... wrote:
As for a second sheet of ice, it would be nice, but the Ice Arena does not have enough business to support two sheets. The problem the Ice Arena has is everybody wants the ice at the same time.
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As far as the cracks on Dr. Ribeau are concerned, God forbid he doesn't pay attention to the needs of ONE department.



Gee what with running the Univ and chasing women all the time your right how could he have time to worry about the AD.....geesshhhh.
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Who can argue with reasoning like that... :roll: But I do like the idea of taking the game back to the pond. We could do a weekend "Border War" classic. Have BG, OSU, and Miami play UM, MSU, and one of the directional schools each year.
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noval idea..that we actually host a tourney....I like it!
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Only if it's in Doyt Perry Stadium on the coldest possible weekend of the year. That would be KICK AZZ!!!!! :twisted:
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pdt1081 wrote: As for a second sheet of ice, it would be nice, but the Ice Arena does not have enough business to support two sheets. The problem the Ice Arena has is everybody wants the ice at the same time.
I hate to disagree with on on this but we do. There are reasons that some of the youth hockey teams are going to Findlay and Fremont for ice times and it's not just money. 6:00 am ice times aren't easy to live with (I've been there, believe me) but sometimes that's the only times that are available.

The other thing that a second sheet allows is the ability to host weekend tournaments ala Tamo. You can't do that easily with one sheet due to the number of teams that make up a good tourney. Two sheets, on the other hand, allow for two games to go on at the same time. It's also a fact that an ice facility with multiple sheets can and will make money....a single sheet will not.

Spring hockey only happens around here every other year due to the figure skating program that goes on during the opposite years. Two sheets would allow for both to happen every year. We have the need for more ice, trust me.
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It's the Journey... wrote:Who can argue with reasoning like that... :roll: But I do like the idea of taking the game back to the pond. We could do a weekend "Border War" classic. Have BG, OSU, and Miami play UM, MSU, and one of the directional schools each year.
You know, I really like this idea.

We could have the tag line of "Not for the weak."

It has potential. I don't know if the Doyt has decent sightlines for a hockey game, however. Great for football, but hockey? I'm not sure.
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Falcon30 wrote:One of the BGNews articles says that hockey in a convocation center with 8-10000 seats would be too big for hockey.

Why would an 8-10000 seat arena be "too big" for the hockey team when they outdraw the basketball teams? (and have for years)

I don't get it.
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HoopsFan wrote:
Falcon30 wrote:One of the BGNews articles says that hockey in a convocation center with 8-10000 seats would be too big for hockey.

Why would an 8-10000 seat arena be "too big" for the hockey team when they outdraw the basketball teams? (and have for years)

I don't get it.
Not to be mean (yeah, right), but if you magically could swap the Ice Arena and Anderson Arena, I'd bet you'd reverse the attendance. You know what they say about people wanting ice water? Winning games sure would help both teams. It looks like the women can come close to outdrawing the men in hoops.

But look at that football field. Plenty of parking and we just fill it to capacity :-).

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BGFan wrote:I hate to disagree with on on this but we do. There are reasons that some of the youth hockey teams are going to Findlay and Fremont for ice times and it's not just money. 6:00 am ice times aren't easy to live with (I've been there, believe me) but sometimes that's the only times that are available.

The other thing that a second sheet allows is the ability to host weekend tournaments ala Tamo. You can't do that easily with one sheet due to the number of teams that make up a good tourney. Two sheets, on the other hand, allow for two games to go on at the same time. It's also a fact that an ice facility with multiple sheets can and will make money....a single sheet will not.

Spring hockey only happens around here every other year due to the figure skating program that goes on during the opposite years. Two sheets would allow for both to happen every year. We have the need for more ice, trust me.
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BGFan is 100 % correct.
A regulation sized rink located to the east, where the tennis courts are now;
seating for about 800 would be fine.
We will be getting all new compressors and piping for the main arena; building a second sheet is much less costly that an new building.

Sand blast the inside and outside of the building. More locker rooms.

My plan would be some boxes at the top of the arena. Put a walkway behind the boxes. Extend these boxes and walkway to the west over the dirt area and over the sidewalk; to the north over the side walk, to the east over the locker rooms. Put cocession areas up there similar to MSU. Under these extensions there would be room for the baseball team to have there own locker rooms and facilities.
Yes this idea might eliminate a row or 2 of seats. (BTW Ty Masters did a research paper on the feasibility of boxes years ago) My plan would also call for the patch ice area to become locker rooms for youth hockey and figure skating, the skate shop might be located between the 2 ice sheets.

I do not think that we need chair seating, but benches with back rests would be good. I f they do go to chair seating do not do like UNO has done, a 6 ft 210 lb person should be able to sit confortably.

I'm not sure if my plan is fea$$ible, but it would tell the world that BG is commited to hockey. Come on Dr. Ribeau drop the puck and get r done;
the recruiting class of 2009 is watching. I'll donate time and money to make this work.
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