OSU or BGSU?

[It's the Journey...]

BGSU hands down. He will get more of the hands on experience he will need just starting out in the field and I believe our program is ranked highest in the state but I am sure Transfer2BGSU will correct me if I am wrong. He will want a strong background with students because that will open many more doors than going straight administrative all the time.

[LakelandRocket]

Here is all the info I have so far.

OSU BGSU
$1,200 per month $8,000 per year
September 4th start Staff Apartment and meal plan provided valued at $3,200
$103 fees per semester


The BG description is as follows (mind you this is split between 3 people):
1. Conducts a focus group to assess an area of Greek Affairs.
2. Manages and administers a functional area budget (Ex: recruitment, scholarship, etc.)
3. Advises one of the four Greek Councils (IFC, Panhellenic, NPHC, GIB).
4. Advises one of the Greek honorary organizations (Order of Omega, Gamma Sigma Alpha).
5. Advises Council and Chapter officers.
6. Plans and coordinates leadership programs.
7. Produces a newsletter to a Greek Affairs constituency group (Parents, Alumni, Faculty, etc.)
8. Adjudicates student discipline cases.
9. Coordinates housing operations for approximately 28 Greek houses.
10. Develops resource guides, training materials, leadership tip sheets and other material for Greek students and
advisors.
11. Staff member responsible for at least one NPHC/GIB Late Night Event a semester based on a staff rotation.
12. Works with and serves as a liaison to one Greek group without University housing.
13. Some position descriptions include: Staff Development, Staff Recruitment, Greek Retention, Greek Recruitment,
IFC Advisor, Panhellenic Advisor, GIB Advisor, NPHC Advisor, Scholarship, Housing Operations, Student
Discipline, Leadership Programs, Risk Management, Greek Week, and Assistant to the Greek Staff.
14. Attends the Fall President's Retreat and the Spring Leadership Retreat.
15. Attends all Greek Graduate Assistant training sessions.
16. Attends weekly Greek Affairs staff meetings.
17. Meets weekly with direct supervisor.
18. Presents at least one program at a conference or meeting with one program over the course of two years occurring
at a regional or national conference.
19. Perform other duties as assigned.

[transfer2BGSU]

Student Affairs

Major:

Higher Education Administration

Ask no more - BGSU.

The reputation of the College Student Personnel program (Masters) and Higher Education Administration program (Ph.D) at this university are in the top three nationally. Indiana is No. 1. BGSU and the University of South Carolina continually go back and forth for #2 and #3.

He is going to have the opportunity to study under some of the great minds in the Higher Ed curriculum -

Dr. Carney Strange (this guy is the Higher Ed. Guru)
Dr. Michael Coomes
Dr. Carolyn Palmer
Dr. Maureen Wilson

Tell your nephew to look at some professional higher ed journals. Ask him to look at who is writing these articles and what school they are at.
Answer: BGSU.

When I was in North Carolina and people found out I graduated from BGSU, the first question was asking if I was a CSP grad.

It's too bad Dan hasn't been on the board much recently, but my guess with all of what has been going on at Bluffton recently, he's probably very busy. He is a second year student in the CSP program at BGSU.

This is a great program and it is very, very hard to get admitted into. You should be extremely proud of your nephew.

[rollalongFF0304]

In my opinion, throw this "who's better" business out the window - especially with this particular area of study. If the choice is between BG or OSU, your nephew is in a no-lose situation.

I speak from firsthand experience: I graduated from the same program at BG this past May.

Something that the faculty have preached is to pay less attention to the academic merits, particularly when you're comparing two excellent programs. Rather, go for the dimensions of "fit" and "feel" on campus. Which place felt right for your nephew? Where did he seem to relate better with the faculty? Was he particularly fond of the human component of either assistantship? Did he seem to gel better with the people on either campus?

I think that with a grad program in higher education administration, your success depends more on feeling comfortable with the people with whom you work rather than this bigger-is-better-vs.-smaller-is-sweeter argument.

Academically, both programs are the same. Heck, I know folks who went through "less-prestigious" programs across the country and are now doing MUCH much better for themselves than some friends who graduated from BG or OSU.

It honestly should boil down to where your nephew feels most comfortable.

PM me if I can help any further!

[It's the Journey...]

Good to hear from you again. I hope all is well considering the obvious. I was happy to see the team will play this season. I am sure those stands will be packed. I won't see you in July this year. I cannot do Willard's camp. Take care and GO Beavers.

[rollalongFF0304]

It's too bad Dan hasn't been on the board much recently, but my guess with all of what has been going on at Bluffton recently, he's probably very busy. He is a second year student in the CSP program at BGSU.

I saw this thread during the game last night and tried responding during timeouts-on-the-floor but my post must've gotten lost in this world wide interweb!

Anyways, I think It's The Journey's anecdote well-illustrates this field. It truly depends on the individual and which environment "feels right."

Greek Affairs at Bowling Green is a solid assistantship - the students I know who have worked there felt that they got meaningful professional experience in that environment.

If I had to choose in place of your nephew, I'd pick BG (but I'm also biased!). However my only recommendation goes back to my previous post - in this case, it's all about "fit."

[h2oville rocket]

plentiful? there are more smokin hot girls that go to OSU, than total number of students at BG

OMG, I agree w/tellabikini. well, almost. We're not talking brains necessarily but with 45,000 students there there are bound to a fair number of attractive women. And its nice to hear someone admit that BG has Strange professors. All in all it sounds like BG is the place if UT isn't an option.

[Globetrotter]

This is a question I have been mulling over myself. I hate OSU, But I will be going to their school for my graduate degree in the fall turning down offers and scholarships (Not full) from IU, Wisconsin, American, Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul, St. Louis and Pittsburgh.

It came down to IU, OSU and Wisconsin. The school is just too good and the cost to not go out of state is just too attractive. When I started my search my goal was to get out of Columbus. Is tarted looking in St. Louis and Chicago to get another bigger city feel. After weighing the schools and their offers OSU is comparably ranked to the other schools I looked to attend and will be $60,00 less.

The reach of OSU is much greater then BGSU. If he wants to work in Ohio it may not be a huge difference. If he does not know what he wants to do I would reccomend OSU.


EDIT: I did not read what he was going to be involved in yet. I dont htink it matters for a program like that. I am going to a business/professional oriented school where it does.

[Globetrotter]

plentiful? there are more smokin hot girls that go to OSU, than total number of students at BG

That is the most blatently disgusting lie I have ever heard. OSU is full of jersey chasers and meathead followers.

[rollalongFF0304]

I dont htink it matters for a program like that. I am going to a business/professional oriented school where it does.

DIS!!!

It does too matter. There are some real shady programs out there, just like with any field.

[Globetrotter]

I dont htink it matters for a program like that. I am going to a business/professional oriented school where it does.

DIS!!!

It does too matter. There are some real shady programs out there, just like with any field.

I certainly did not mean it as a DIS. But in a program like that I would bet it is much much more about who you know, what you have done then where you came from.

[Falcons4Life]

Based on my activity with Poli Sci here at KU, I can tell you that OSU is a larger program that is more focused on producing research machines, but BG is also well respected. When I drop names here of professors at BG, they all know who I am talking about and speak very highly of their work.
On top of that, they are all really great people who care about students, which is not always true at and R-1 school like OH Suck!