Looks like Orr is the guy....

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:53 am

Per this ESPN brief....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2825175

BGFalcons232 · Post by **BGFalcons232** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:02 am

former Big East coach of the year, has a good history of getting his teams to the postseason, and has playing experience in college and the NBA.

appears his problems at seton hall were his struggles to recruit the ny/nj area. hopefully he hires a good staff to help him recruit.

if he can get his recruiting straightened out, sounds like a good hire.

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:06 am

BGFalcons232 wrote:former Big East coach of the year, has a good history of getting his teams to the postseason, and has playing experience in college and the NBA.

sounds like a good hire for BG.

I agree. Orr got fired from SHU after he took the team to the NCAA Tournament two out of three years. If he does that here, they'll name the floor after him. Different circumstances of course....I like it.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:07 am

BGFalcons232 wrote:former Big East coach of the year, has a good history of getting his teams to the postseason, and has playing experience in college and the NBA.

appears his problems at seton hall were his struggles to recruit the ny/nj area. hopefully he hires a good staff to help him recruit.

if he can get his recruiting straightened out, sounds like a good hire.

Two words to help recruiting....Lamonta Stone

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:13 am

BGFalcons232 wrote:former Big East coach of the year, has a good history of getting his teams to the postseason, and has playing experience in college and the NBA.

appears his problems at seton hall were his struggles to recruit the ny/nj area. hopefully he hires a good staff to help him recruit.

if he can get his recruiting straightened out, sounds like a good hire.

Excellent post. His coaching experience is tremendous. From living in New York and following Seton Hall, his personality is the complete opposite of Dakich: low key, understated and unemotional, which might be what we need at this point. I certainly don't think player retention will be an issue any more. I'd like to see a more up-tempo style of play. The Hall teams liked to grind out wins and play in the 40's and 50's, but that might have been a product of necessity to win at SHU vs. more talented teams in the Big East. He also played and coached at Syracuse, which is much more up tempo.

The key will be to re-connect with the high school and AAU coaches in the region for recruiting. He grew up in Cincinnati and coached at Xavier, so there's some background there.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:21 am

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Louis M. Orr (born May 7, 1958 in Cincinnati, Ohio) is an American basketball coach. Orr would become the men's basketball head coach at Seton Hall University from April 4, 2001 until his firing on March 24, 2006. He was formerly an assistant at Xavier University, Providence College, and his alma-mater Syracuse University, before getting his first head coaching job at Siena College.

Orr attended Withrow High School where he was coached by Charles Cadle. Orr played at Syracuse from 1976 to 1980, before entering the NBA. After graduating from Syracuse in 1980, he was the 28th pick in the 1980 NBA Draft, selected by the Indiana Pacers. He played two seasons with the Pacers, which included one playoff appearance. After that, he moved on to the New York Knicks, and played for six years, with three playoff berths. Orr averaged career highs rebounds and points for the Knicks with 12.7 and 4.9, respectively, in the 1984-85 season. He scored over 5,500 career points as a pro.

He got his first assistant coaching job in 1990 with Xavier in Cincinnati, Ohio, the town where Orr was from. Then, in 1994, he began serving under Pete Gillen at Providence and soon he was an assistant under Jim Boeheim and the Syracuse Orange. During his tenure there, he rose to become a noted assistant, and helped them to a 92-40 record in that time. Syracuse reached the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament twice in during Orr's time there.

In his lone year at Siena (2000-01), Orr led the Saints to a three-way tie for first place in the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference and a 20-11 record, the best ever for a first-year Siena coach. Siena broke many attendance records that year as well.

Orr became the first former Big East player to become a head coach in the conference after he was hired in 2001 by Seton Hall after Tommy Amaker went to Michigan. In his first year in the Big East, Orr went 12-18, but was noted for playing Duke University very close in the Maui Invitational. By 2006, Orr had led the Pirates to two NCAA Tournaments in three years. In the 2004 NCAA Tournament, they beat Arizona in a first round 8-9 game before losing to #1 seed Duke (who would advance to the Final Four) two days later in the second round. In 2005-2006, Orr led the Pirates to a 9-7 record in the Big East and an 18-12 record overall. Seton Hall received a #10 seed in the 2006 NCAA Tournament and played the #7 seed Wichita State. Wichita State was the regular season Missouri Valley Conference champion and dominated the Pirates in an 86-66 first round win. Although Orr had made the NCAA tournament twice and the NIT once in his five seasons as head coach at Seton Hall he was fired after his fifth season coaching the Pirates. In those five seasons Orr's record was 80-69.

JimmyZ11381 · Post by **JimmyZ11381** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:24 am

I'm extremely excited about this hire. I'm sure some of that is I'm just happy to have a coach and move forward. But, I think Orr could have some success here.

WELCOME Coach Orr....Let's get things going in the right direction.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:27 am

Pirates were crushed by Wichita State in the First Round of the NCAA Tournament

March 24, 2006

# Coaching Changes List

SOUTH ORANGE, N.J. (AP) - Seton Hall fired basketball coach Louis Orr on Friday, a little more than a week after the Pirates lost by 20 points in the opening round of the NCAA tournament.

Orr coached Seton Hall for five seasons and had two years left on his contract.

"I have evaluated the basketball program thoroughly and discussed it with Louis," athletic director Joe Quinlan said. "As a result, we could not agree on critical issues related to the management of the program."

Orr was 80-69 at Seton Hall. He led the Pirates to the NCAA tournament twice and to the NIT in 2003, but came under fire after finishing 12-16 a year ago.

This season Seton Hall finished 18-12, defeating Top 25 teams Pittsburgh and West Virginia late in the season but losing to Notre Dame, St. John's and DePaul and nearly missing the Big East tournament. The Pirates' season ended with an 86-66 loss to Wichita State in the first round of the NCAAs on March 16.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:29 am

I'm pretty psyched about this....

BGFalcons232 · Post by **BGFalcons232** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:31 am

JoeFalcon wrote:
BGFalcons232 wrote:former Big East coach of the year, has a good history of getting his teams to the postseason, and has playing experience in college and the NBA.

appears his problems at seton hall were his struggles to recruit the ny/nj area. hopefully he hires a good staff to help him recruit.

if he can get his recruiting straightened out, sounds like a good hire.
Excellent post. His coaching experience is tremendous. From living in New York and following Seton Hall, his personality is the complete opposite of Dakich: low key, understated and unemotional, which might be what we need at this point. I certainly don't think player retention will be an issue any more. I'd like to see a more up-tempo style of play. The Hall teams liked to grind out wins and play in the 40's and 50's, but that might have been a product of necessity to win at SHU vs. more talented teams in the Big East. He also played and coached at Syracuse, which is much more up tempo.

The key will be to re-connect with the high school and AAU coaches in the region for recruiting. He grew up in Cincinnati and coached at Xavier, so there's some background there.

he could coach this team to 21-15 wins for all i care. so long as he can bring back a winning program is all that is important to me. with his track record, sounds like he can do just that.

i'm pretty excited for the new era of BG basketball.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:32 am

I think I like this. Orr is 49 years old. If he is successful here, which probably takes 3 yeas, he will be 52. That almost makes him too old for soem BCS type school to be interested. I guess what I'm saying, that we got a proven, successful coach who has a great chance to be succesful here, but still stick around for 7-10 years.

His low-key style will be quite the contrast to the Dakich years.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:38 am

NY-BG-FAN wrote:If he does that here, they'll name the floor after him.

"The Orr Floor"?

Does it come with green eggs and ham?

I didn't know much about Orr until the past couple weeks, but I like it, too. Though hopefully he does a better job than his predecessor at SHU.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:40 am

"Bowling Green will name former Seton Hall coach Louis Orr as its next men's basketball coach on Wednesday, multiple sources told ESPN.com."

So where were our sources on this? Shouldn't we have heard this before ESPN?

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:42 am

Seems like a pretty fantastic hire to me, knowing just what I've read about Orr. Sounds like he clashed philosophically with the AD at Seton Hall. It's not like he got fired for being terrible or pulling a Eustachy.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:43 am

A series of stories from the NY times, Blurbs are free for all.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference ... atch=exact

I will stop posting these updates now. I feel lukewarm about this hiring. I love that he is/was a big man and has NBA experience. I think we can win in the MAC with a dominant big man and if I were a big man I would think that going to a school with a 10 year NBA vet as the HC would be appealing. I also love that he has head coaching experience and success as a head coach. No need to learn the little things and he expects success again.

I think that my negatives come more from my ignorance then anything else. Will we have a similar offense? How did he develop players at Seton Hall (any notables?)How did he recruit at Seton Hall? Can he recruit our area?

the next step is recruiting. We have 2-3 (or is it 3-4) scholarships available. Go get us a point guard.