Looks like Orr is the guy....

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:07 pm

I'm at the point that I would rather have a coach that wants to be here and build a nice program, than just a great young assistant that is looking to leave after a year or two.

I believe Greg C. wants to build something special at BG and he's slowly putting the pieces together. It should be interesting to see future hires, building projects, sponsors and other money he can bring in during his tenure.

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:24 pm

Tricky_Falcon wrote:I'm at the point that I would rather have a coach that wants to be here and build a nice program, than just a great young assistant that is looking to leave after a year or two.

I believe Greg C. wants to build something special at BG and he's slowly putting the pieces together. It should be interesting to see future hires, building projects, sponsors and other money he can bring in during his tenure.

So Orr puts a couple of good years together at BG and draws intrest from say...Clemson...you don't think he isn't going to jump at the chance to get back into the "big time?"

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:25 pm

I am very happy and excited about this hire! Welcome to BG Coach Orr. And if you lead us to the NCAA Tournament, they'll probably name a street or arena after you!

Seriously though, I think this could be a very good fit all the way around and I can't wait to see us play next season.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:28 pm

Rollo83 wrote:
Tricky_Falcon wrote:I'm at the point that I would rather have a coach that wants to be here and build a nice program, than just a great young assistant that is looking to leave after a year or two.

I believe Greg C. wants to build something special at BG and he's slowly putting the pieces together. It should be interesting to see future hires, building projects, sponsors and other money he can bring in during his tenure.
So Orr puts a couple of good years together at BG and draws intrest from say...Clemson...you don't think he isn't going to jump at the chance to get back into the "big time?"

Even if Orr is only here for a season or two season, but guides us to a MAC Championship and the NCAA Tournament, I'll be happy as hell. BG has never won a MAC Tournament title and hasn't been to the NCAA Tournament since 1968. Anyone that can lead us to both of those can do whatever he wants after that IMO. I just want to experience it once in my lifetime. We're approaching 40 years since we last went dancing and I want to see it happen more than anything else for our program.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:36 pm

Rollo83 wrote:
Tricky_Falcon wrote:I'm at the point that I would rather have a coach that wants to be here and build a nice program, than just a great young assistant that is looking to leave after a year or two.

I believe Greg C. wants to build something special at BG and he's slowly putting the pieces together. It should be interesting to see future hires, building projects, sponsors and other money he can bring in during his tenure.
So Orr puts a couple of good years together at BG and draws intrest from say...Clemson...you don't think he isn't going to jump at the chance to get back into the "big time?"

Do I think he will be here longer than a year or two? Or lets just say longer than Urban Meyer. Yes I do.

The Niz · Post by **The Niz** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:37 pm

I have about five ultimate wishes in life; one of which is to see Anderson Arena in all its glory packed behind a winning team. I don't care if its one season or ten (preferably ten) I just want to be part of that. I think Orr can give me that. I am excited about this hire.

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:58 pm

Rollo83 wrote:
Flipper wrote:Because he didn't want to coach at those schools so he never applied for the jobs?
So the BG job was so head and shoulders above the others that he didn't even bother to make an inquiry or put out a feeler? I don't believe that for a minute. I just think that those other MAC schools looked at the all the candidates avialable, inlcuding Lou, and decided to go in a different direction.

Bullshit. You don't know what was going on with Orr when those jobs were open. Those openings occurred at different points in time. Plus, those choices were made by different AD's with different priorities, connections, and world views.

Another reason why your argument sucks is that it could be made for any new hire, any time, anywhere. Was Coach K a bad hire at Duke because some other school could've hired him but didn't? Enough!

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:03 am

BleedOrange wrote:
Rollo83 wrote:
Flipper wrote:Because he didn't want to coach at those schools so he never applied for the jobs?
So the BG job was so head and shoulders above the others that he didn't even bother to make an inquiry or put out a feeler? I don't believe that for a minute. I just think that those other MAC schools looked at the all the candidates avialable, inlcuding Lou, and decided to go in a different direction.
Bullshit. You don't know what was going on with Orr when those jobs were open. Those openings occurred at different points in time. Plus, those choices were made by different AD's with different priorities, connections, and world views.

Another reason why your argument sucks is that it could be made for any new hire, any time, anywhere. Was Coach K a bad hire at Duke because some other school could've hired him but didn't? Enough!

Bottom line is four MAC head coaching positions were filled and he was without a job. Not once did his name surface during those searches.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:13 am

Tricky_Falcon wrote:
I believe Greg C. wants to build something special at BG and he's slowly putting the pieces together. It should be interesting to see future hires, building projects, sponsors and other money he can bring in during his tenure.

Why do you beleive this?

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:14 am

ZiggyZoomba wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:How much better could we get next year?

Another year for Otis.....
And I'll add to this... a seasoned and successful NBA veteran big-man coaching Otis and teaching the team how to USE a big man.... I believe Louis Orr will make OP a VERY good player!

Great point, I wish I had made it earlier.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:15 am

Rollo83 wrote:
Flipper wrote:Because he didn't want to coach at those schools so he never applied for the jobs?
So the BG job was so head and shoulders above the others that he didn't even bother to make an inquiry or put out a feeler? I don't believe that for a minute. I just think that those other MAC schools looked at the all the candidates avialable, inlcuding Lou, and decided to go in a different direction.

Who did they hire in comparison? What kinds of coaches did they bring in? Is there something we are taking on that is not evident from his resume?

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:17 am

Rollo83 wrote:I see a lot of comparisons between Lou and Stan Heath. Both got their first head coaching job at a mid-major program and had immediate success with someone else’s players...Lou at Siena and Stan at Kent.

Then after only one year they both land jobs at “big time” programs…Lou in the Big East at Seton Hall and Stan in the SEC at Arkansas.

They both failed to live-up to expectations, unrealistic or otherwise, at their respective “big conference” schools despite some limited success.

Now the both end up back with head coaching gigs at places like South Florida and BG.

That’s why I would have rather seen a hot assistant get he BG job. I want the bigger programs to be coming after my head coach. That means you are having success. Curt Miller on the women’s side is a perfect example. I just think we have hired one of those guys who tend to bounce around.

You know how you get a gut feeling about watching a team play? You say, man that guy can coach, or can recruit, or both. I have never had that feeling about one of Lou’s teams.

I guess only time will tell, but I am excite at the prospects of new era of basketball at BG.

How closely did you follow Sienna and Seton Hall?

HoopsFan · Post by **HoopsFan** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:18 am

BGSU33 wrote:I am very happy and excited about this hire! Welcome to BG Coach Orr. And if you lead us to the NCAA Tournament, they'll probably name a street or arena after you! Seriously though, I think this could be a very good fit all the way around and I can't wait to see us play next season.

Or as someone else said, we can do that now. The Fl0rr.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:17 am

Didn't take long for the new coach to get s*it on.....

HoopsFan · Post by **HoopsFan** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:27 am

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It was funny because one of the local TV sportscasters told us that Orr coached at Sienna HEIGHTS.

Indeed