Football gets field turf

[Bleeding Orange]

I know that the soccer team likes having their own facilities, but if you combine the facilities then you're saving money on maintenance.

As far as I'm concerned, the soccer team can go cry a river. They're the bitches that just randomly come into Perry Fieldhouse during the off-season and force everybody out of the turf room just because "they're a varsity sport" and get priority. They don't even have the respect and courtesy to tell the fieldhouse when they are coming in. Nothing but a major pain in the ass for students using the facility.

The next time that happens, we're telling them to wait.

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously?

[BGFalconfromCincy]

I know that the soccer team likes having their own facilities, but if you combine the facilities then you're saving money on maintenance.

As far as I'm concerned, the soccer team can go cry a river. They're the bitches that just randomly come into Perry Fieldhouse during the off-season and force everybody out of the turf room just because "they're a varsity sport" and get priority. They don't even have the respect and courtesy to tell the fieldhouse when they are coming in. Nothing but a major pain in the ass for students using the facility.

The next time that happens, we're telling them to wait.

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously?

He hadn't posted anything stupid in a while, he was due

[bgsufalcon24]

I know that the soccer team likes having their own facilities, but if you combine the facilities then you're saving money on maintenance.

As far as I'm concerned, the soccer team can go cry a river. They're the bitches that just randomly come into Perry Fieldhouse during the off-season and force everybody out of the turf room just because "they're a varsity sport" and get priority. They don't even have the respect and courtesy to tell the fieldhouse when they are coming in. Nothing but a major pain in the ass for students using the facility.

The next time that happens, we're telling them to wait.

WTF is wrong with you? Seriously?

All right, I didn't think I'd be forced to tell the whole story, but since Bleeding_Orange and BGFalconfromCincy are calling me names, they leave me no choice. They're just so ready to jump on me that I'm losing my proverbial shirt.

Back in November, I worked and came up with about 30 or 40 people from Harshman and Kreischer dorms to play into a pickup flag football league. It was more or less a tide-over league between the outdoor fall intramural season and the indoor winter season, and gave a lot of people something fun to do. We had played twice up to this point and we were in our third games of the season (there were 4 teams). It was the Friday of the week before finals I think, and for the first time, the weather was really inclement. I asked Perry Fieldhouse if anybody had reserved the facility that afternoon, and they said no, it was open time.

So we all get there and nobody is inside the turf room. We began the first game at around 4 oclock. During the 2nd quarter of the game, somebody from the fieldhouse tells me that the soccer team is coming in, and because they are a varsity sport, they need the space. But we'd still have half the field then right? Wrong. About 5 minutes later, the OTHER soccer team comes in (I can't remember who was first there, the men's or women's) and they start screaming at us to leave. Now there is a lot of protest coming from the players in Kreischer dorm, and a lot of them refused to leave the field. After all, we had it first, they didn't say they were coming, they could wait. It got to the point where the fieldhouse threatened to call campus police on us. At that point, about a hundred F-bombs were dropped as we finally left, with the game postponed somewhere around halftime.

After the winter break, the fieldhouse continued to be uncooperative whenever we wanted to use the turf room, and eventually the league disbanded about two weeks before our scheduled title game. I hold the men's and women's soccer teams responsible for having such arrogance that they can just walk all over the student body of this university. I swear I will NEVER go to one of their games as long as I live. I also hold Perry Fieldhouse responsible for not doing what they should have, tell them that they did not have a reservation, and that somebody was using the room, they had to wait. (The fieldhouse closed to students at 6 on Fridays anyway, they could have freely used it then)

Now, if you don't think I have a legitimate gripe with how this played out, I would love to see your reasoning as to why.

[factman]

There are alot of times that football, baseball, softball, soccer and probably others, have all intentions of practicing outside, but weather CHANGES their plans. Thank god we have an indoor facility for them to use in these situations.

[Rightupinthere]

So, you asked if anyone scheduled the PFH in the AFTERNOON and you started using it at FOUR - which is pushing early EVENING.

Varsity level athletics have always had evening scheduled access of the PFH. Perhaps you should have shown up at 2....when it was afternoon. I believe the soccer teams had that time scheduled since it was going into evening. Verify before you vilify.

Speaking of crying.

[bgsufalcon24]

So, you asked if anyone scheduled the PFH in the AFTERNOON and you started using it at FOUR - which is pushing early EVENING.

Varsity level athletics have always had evening scheduled access of the PFH. Perhaps you should have shown up at 2....when it was afternoon. I believe the soccer teams had that time scheduled since it was going into evening. Verify before you vilify.

Speaking of crying.

I'm not sure you ever read my post at all. I said that the people at the fieldhouse told me specifically that there was nobody scheduled to use the facilities that afternoon. They just dropped in unannounced.

And how were we all supposed to show up at 2 on a Friday? We have class. It's not like all 30-40 of us are going to skip our 1:30 and 2:30 classes just to play a game of flag football. You disgust me with that comment. Besides, even if we did come in at 2, they could have walked in at 2:15 and pushed us out then too!

If the problem is a case of the words afternoon and evening, technically AFTERNOON is from 12-6, EVENING is after 6pm.

[Rightupinthere]

So, you asked if anyone scheduled the PFH in the AFTERNOON and you started using it at FOUR - which is pushing early EVENING.

Varsity level athletics have always had evening scheduled access of the PFH. Perhaps you should have shown up at 2....when it was afternoon. I believe the soccer teams had that time scheduled since it was going into evening. Verify before you vilify.

Speaking of crying.

I'm not sure you ever read my post at all. I said that the people at the fieldhouse told me specifically that there was nobody scheduled to use the facilities that afternoon. They just dropped in unannounced.

And how were we all supposed to show up at 2 on a Friday? We have class. It's not like all 30-40 of us are going to skip our 1:30 and 2:30 classes just to play a game of flag football. You disgust me with that comment. Besides, even if we did come in at 2, they could have walked in at 2:15 and pushed us out then too!

If the problem is a case of the words afternoon and evening, technically AFTERNOON is from 12-6, EVENING is after 6pm.

Listen, son, I'm telling you what could be and you're fighting me with YOUR own personal interpretations.

Could it be that afternoon, according to the person you spoke to at the PFH, ended at 5pm?! Could it? I understand that the entire facility is close to students at 6pm - but that rules don't state "aftrenoon" nor do the procedures define "afternoon." Could it also be that there are rules dictating that a varsity sport has the leverage to enter the facility when there are no other R-E-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-O-N-S? Because, based on your story, you were walk-ins.

Verify before you vilify. You're flying off the handle - as is your modus operandi - without reasoned thought.

Ultimately, I think your venom is misplaced. If you think you have a gripe, it should be directed towards the employees of the PFH and not the soccer team.

I'm glad I offended you. With all the technical problems I'm having at work today, I was beginning to think I would get nothing accomplished.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

After reading this I have a question for you bgsufalcons24. Lets say you have a basketball league, and you plan on playing at the Field House, and the employees tell you there are no reservations for the track room. So your playing and oh lets say the women's basketball team shows up and they want you out. So my question is do you act the same way towards the women's basketball team as you did towards the soccer teams?

I think this has more to do with people not being fans of the sport of soccer

[Tech83]

I posted the below on the football site also.
Yup, there goes Puckhead complaining about the status of the ice arena again.


So let me see if I have this correct.
They spend $ 7 million to build the Sebo center,
a building that all sports are able to use. In the process of building this structure they damaged the drainage system. The field is destroyed during the Miami football game. Now they are spending $ 1 million to replace the playing surface. Did I get close on that statement?

The Ice Arena has 40 year old ice making equipment that Buddy can not get replacement parts for and the cooling fluid can not be purchased. Soon Buddy will run out of duct tape and the ice arena will not be able to make ice.

I understand that artifical turf will cost less over time. I also understand that the ice arena is on the endangered species list. What will happen if something serious breaks at the arena? Will they do an emergency patch job for $ 50,000; will they replace everything for $ 500,000; or close the facility.

You came up with $ 1,000,000 for football; come up with $ 500,000 to save BGSU Hockey, BGHS Hockey BG Community Hockey, BG Figure Skating and BG Curling.

Fund it or Fold it

Well since you can't figure out where to post this, here is my response from the football forum..........


I don't know where to start with this....... yes the arena needs renovated. I am not sure where you got $500,000. Here is something to chew on...... There are only about 3 contractors/manufacturers of ice rinks. Davis Ice Pro is the one I know the most. These contractors/manufacturers do all the design and construction; its a turn-key type of project. We expanded/replaced the ice at Hobart Arena (Troy) in 1998 for about $350,000 from the Chillers out to the "house" and all new dashers and boxes. You can get less expensive systems (sand based in lieu of concrete). But a new ice surface and chillers is not the only thing needed at the Ice Arena. But I think $5 to $10 million could do some real damage and improve the experience at the Ice Arena. I am not in full support of bulldozing the building.

I think it is clear (from what I have read in other threads) that the multiple parties/players with a vested interest in the Arena aren't doing anything to facilitate a conversation about renovating the Ice Arena. Local Judges writting scathing letters to the newspaper is a stupid use of political clout and capital. I was greatly disappointed. And the whole fix it or fold it attitude is pure BS. This building will get fixed. Hockey is Bowling Green and it is where our national reputation is known. Even if its been over 10 years since we have had a quality team. IMHO - Monkeys will fly out of my azz before BG loses hockey.

I would hope that our new AD, who is supposedly very skilled at fund-raising, could focus on alumni from our hockey program and raise $5 million easily. Naming rights would help secure funds. Think ....... Rob Blake Arena at the McPhee Ice Center. OR the Flipper Urinal stall at the McPhee Ice Arena

[Flipper]

It's tax time right now and I'm gonna have to drop some $$ on "forestry" equipment in the near future, so I'm not sure I can afford the naming rights on an entire urinal.

I might be willing to purchase naming rights on a urinal cake though.

(MacMan...so you'll know, a urinal cake is that thing in the pisser that you keep mistaking for a giant mint)

[The Niz]

With a synthetic surface, couldn't the Doyt be used for soccer?

No offense to the soccer team, but I really don't want soccer lines drawn all over our brand new fake football field. I'm not sure but I believe the stuff they put on Field Turf is permanent. We would look silly on espn with our football/soccer filed.

I've also heard a holding a high school marching band show would be a good fun raising opportunity also; While I know the FMB can make the transition from marching on college hash marks to high school, and even to pro, I'm not sure there are a great many high school bands who can handle the transition.

24, Any varsity team takes priority over a student pickup game. If you were on the intramural fields and they needed to use it, I would expect you to move from there too.

[Dayons_Den]

With a synthetic surface, couldn't the Doyt be used for soccer?

No offense to the soccer team, but I really don't want soccer lines drawn all over our brand new fake football field. I'm not sure but I believe the stuff they put on Field Turf is permanent. We would look silly on espn with our football/soccer filed.

THere can be permanent and non-permanent markings. If you remember Ladd Peebles, oh and even Ford Field, are Field Turf and both had BG marking on the field that could then be rinsed off, so soccer lines could be as well.

I don't have a problem with a varsity sport pushing students out of the field house. When it was built it was trumpeted as a place for Blackney's Boys to practice for bowl games and such so that isn't a big deal.

What I always had a problem with was when I was in high school trying to play basketball. We would have to sneak in to Eppler to play hoops and if we got caught we got kicked out. The very nice courts (since the rehab) sit there on weekends and evenings getting minimal use.

[bgsufalcon24]

After reading this I have a question for you bgsufalcons24. Lets say you have a basketball league, and you plan on playing at the Field House, and the employees tell you there are no reservations for the track room. So your playing and oh lets say the women's basketball team shows up and they want you out. So my question is do you act the same way towards the women's basketball team as you did towards the soccer teams?

I think this has more to do with people not being fans of the sport of soccer

How upset I would be would depend on whether my team got to play full court against them. If that happened, I wouldn't mind too much. Otherwise, I'd be pretty mad about it. Would I be more mad about that scenario than what we faced against the soccer team? I'm not really sure. I probably wouldn't have used any swear words like I did, though. Swearing in the presence of a lady is very unbecoming.

[PGY Tiercel]

How upset I would be would depend on whether my team got to play full court against them. If that happened, I wouldn't mind too much. Otherwise, I'd be pretty mad about it. Would I be more mad about that scenario than what we faced against the soccer team? I'm not really sure. I probably wouldn't have used any swear words like I did, though. Swearing in the presence of a lady is very unbecoming.

So the women's soccer team isn't comprised of ladies. (which you said was there, in your tirade of a thousand F-Bombs). Sounds like you were "unbecoming" then. Which shouldn't really suprise anyone.

I guess I'm tring to understand why you haven't grasped the concept that in facility built for varsity athletes, they get priority usage. Next time, if you want to use it, pay for the time like everyone else that reserves it (intramurals and club sports pay to use the facility). [/quote]

[BGDrew]

Speaking of the field house, what kind of condition is the turf in? From what I've seen there's some spots that are worn out.