Great BG Teams....'03, '04

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Wed May 23, 2007 2:34 pm

I, as most of you know, support Coach Brandon. I think last year was a hiccup and the 2007 team will be much better.

I understand the concerns of those here that don't feel GB is a good head coach. Valid points were made as far as LAST year. Whether things improve in the areas that needed to improve remain to be seen with the season.

GB knows what the situation is at this time. He has 2 years left on his contract. He knows he has to to win and now...it's the nature of the beast known as coaching.

One thing I do know...we have 100 days til kickoff and the BG helmet magnet is now on the FreakMobile for all to see and enjoy up and down RT 8.

GO FALCONS!!!! ROCK IN 07!

falconforever · Post by **falconforever** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:04 pm

Hammb,

I know that BG has some loyal fans out there.... And I also know that they are greatly appreciated. The one thing that burned me up when I was at BG and still burns me up is how quick someone is to criticize a coach. These criticisms coming from someone who didn't have anything to do with the teams success other than sit you a** in the stands and yell like a drunk fool. Trust me....the team loves that. I know first hand that there were some kinks in the armor, trust me, I know. But, there are kinks in every armor. Greg Brandon was the shot caller when Urban was coach and that is why it became the so called Ferrari. Brandon is a hell of a coach. He is so good because he knows how to motivate. His players buy into what he says. The team did come out flat against some of those teams and trust me some of those halftime talks were intense. You can have all the coaching in the world but if your players don't execute, you aint got sh**. I'll tell you why we didn't run against Ohio State. I give you two BIG reasons, Will Smith & Tim Anderson.

So, unless you have the gonads to strap up and go experience it for yourself.......Shut it!!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:06 pm

We depend on coaching more? When DON'T you depend on coaching? This notion that somehow the seniors went on auto pilot just enough to override Brandon's lack of coaching expertise is ludicrous. You folks even acknowledge that the planning for Purdue and NIU was perfect and the adjstments made against UT and Northwestern lead to victory, but you still attribute the credit to the four biggest wins of the (arguably) most successful season in BGSU history to the seniors?

You...are...insane...

So far as last year goes...the biggest fault I can find is that they didn't find a way to pull the effort shown at the OU game out of the team beyond that game. Sure, the Akron and Miami losses turned on two lousy plays, but the team looked so very good against the Bobkits...they only achieved that level sporadically after that.

I'm with Freak on this one...I think we'll be much improved this year.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:07 pm

Oh yeah... I know hammb was critical of Brandon aftert he OSU game. He was simply warping reality then...now he's rewriting history.

Is he some sort of commie?

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed May 23, 2007 3:09 pm

Falconfreak90 wrote:I, as most of you know, support Coach Brandon. I think last year was a hiccup and the 2007 team will be much better.

I understand the concerns of those here that don't feel GB is a good head coach. Valid points were made as far as LAST year. Whether things improve in the areas that needed to improve remain to be seen with the season.

GB knows what the situation is at this time. He has 2 years left on his contract. He knows he has to to win and now...it's the nature of the beast known as coaching.

One thing I do know...we have 100 days til kickoff and the BG helmet magnet is now on the FreakMobile for all to see and enjoy up and down RT 8.

GO FALCONS!!!! ROCK IN 07!

Just out of curiosity, what (other than blind optimism) reason do we have to believe that things are going to be better this year? Oh sure we might be a little better if we get better QB play. Our defense should be a little better since they were so young last year. But as far as what really matters, what reason do we have to believe that this team is again prepared to be among the best in the MAC?

I wish I could believe last year was a hiccup, but then what was 2005, cuz it wasn't real good either.

I'm sorry, but I just think that '05 & '06 were the culmination of doing things the wrong way for too long. I find it tough to believe that in one year Brandon is going to "figure it all out" and realize that "he must win now". I wish it were that easy, but I just don't think it is. I have to believe that he's been doing everything that he thought it took to win in the last 4 years. Unless he's changed some things about himself and the way he coaches, I just don't see how we're ever going to return to the top of the MAC with this regime.

I guess we can hold out hope that the assistants that all left were the problems holding us back, but I find that hard to believe. It's also pretty hard to get excited about guys that were hired from within, being mentored under the guys that I didn't feel were doing a great job.

I wish I could have your blind faith Freak, but I just can't do it. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but up till now I've seen nothing from Brandon to make me believe I am. He's a good guy, and he was a damn good offensive coordinator, but I just don't see it as a HC.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:55 pm

I'm getting real sick and tired of seeing everyone try to attack each other for their opinions on our outlook for the next season. I don't care if you are Tom Brokaw himself, you have no idea whatsoever - no matter what your opinion - of what our team is going to do next year. Telling one another over and over and over again why he or she is wrong because they believe theory X or theory Y will not get any of us anywhere. All we have to look forward to is next season, period. That is all we have during every off season, whether our team was good, bad, or indifferent the previous season.

I think a lot of us forget that we are dealing with 18-22 year old kids in this game. I realize that gets hard for some of us because of the, essentially, pro-franchise to the south, but that is the reality. We live and die with these kids, but, because they are just kids, we need to support them and express faith in them no matter what, in my opinion. Call that "wearing glasses" or whatever the hell you want to call it, but I absolutely refuse to look at this game as most do the NFL game. A whole lot of us around here, I think, are very, very guilty of that.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu May 24, 2007 12:01 am

we're going to be better next year because we aren't saddled with that second rate grass field or that stupid looking "L7" logo.

Field turf and "Space Ghost"...the keys to our return to MAC glory...

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Thu May 24, 2007 6:26 am

Back to topic:
'03 was the better team.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:36 am

Bleeding Orange wrote:I'm getting real sick and tired of seeing everyone try to attack each other for their opinions on our outlook for the next season. I don't care if you are Tom Brokaw himself, you have no idea whatsoever - no matter what your opinion - of what our team is going to do next year. Telling one another over and over and over again why he or she is wrong because they believe theory X or theory Y will not get any of us anywhere. All we have to look forward to is next season, period. That is all we have during every off season, whether our team was good, bad, or indifferent the previous season.

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to think. I'm quite curious as to their thoughts. It's the offseason, and I just like to talk football.

I think a lot of us forget that we are dealing with 18-22 year old kids in this game. I realize that gets hard for some of us because of the, essentially, pro-franchise to the south, but that is the reality. We live and die with these kids, but, because they are just kids, we need to support them and express faith in them no matter what, in my opinion. Call that "wearing glasses" or whatever the hell you want to call it, but I absolutely refuse to look at this game as most do the NFL game. A whole lot of us around here, I think, are very, very guilty of that.

Sorry, so long as the kids are getting a free education, our head coach is making a six figure salary, and we're competing in 1A, it is going to come down to winning. Our university puts a whole lotta money into keeping this football program alive. Money that could quite likely be spent better elsewhere. So long as that is the case, winning is the name of the game. Graduation Rates are wonderful, helping these kids grow into men is great as well, but in the end it's about winning.

That being said, you have the right to think about it however you want

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:45 pm

FalconTurf wrote:
It will be some time before we have a team like either of those again, a long time.
That is exactly what the cheap seat experts were saying just before the Urban renewal occurred in BG. You must have been sitting in the area of my adopted season tickets back in the late 90's up to the conclusion of the Blackney reign (back when you could stretch out and take a nap high in the bleachers at the 50 on the west side).

Glad you were wrong then and I hope you are wrong again. We're still 0-0 and hope should run rampant this time of the year. New home turf with a sparkling SEBO and plenty of lessons learned from last year.

What more can be said......

GO BG!

I used to sit behind the team and heckle blackney each home game, is a voice that over powered the pa system!
please make note GB = GB both had good times both had bad, both seem to be following similar paths.
Hope should be on the upside, however; this coaches dedication to the point surrendering punt formation and now what looks like "dead-i-cation" to a less than good QB, mixed with a very high degree of predictable play calling make the joys of the Architecturally challenged and non aesthetically conforming SEBO center and what all we need was a drainage system and got field turf to boot are over shadowed, by the impending doom.
Should he choose he energize the team, and abandon don the surrender punt formation, and do what he does best, develop a wide open offensive attack that is quick, relentless and unpredictable we will not only stun our opponents, but ride on high and re energize the fans. Its not that we dont have good players capable of wining it all...we have a guy who is commited to the wrong things, becoming to conservative with others and needs to go back to being the guy who came in with a swager and lots of attitude. If that guy takes control of this team were fine, if not were...fighting with buf and temp for near last. Im no fair weather fan...we will be out there...but I will let him know whats up when I see fit and give him a taste of what I gave the other GB if need be.
iut could be a good season..I just dont the moves being made to plan for one.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:37 pm

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:57 pm

Hammb is a true BG fan...he really is. I appreciate his comments even if I don't agree with them. We just see things differently at this time and that's OK. No big deal because nobody on this site will be directly involved with winning or losing any game...the players play and the coaches coach. I ripped GB and the staff for the total lackluster effort against Kent State last year. I was pissed off royally at what I thought was a total lack of preparation. Josh and I left that game with 3 min left and I NEVER, EVER leave games early. I just couldn't take it anymore.

Then, BG goes into Athens and kicks Ohio's butt all over the field...definitely BG's best game of the year in 2006.

We will all get the answers starting in 3 months. I know I'll be in the stands 10 outta 12 regular season games to see it all unfold.

I can't get enough Falcon Football. GO BG!~

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu May 24, 2007 4:02 pm

Falconfreak90 wrote:total lackluster effort against Kent State last year. I was pissed off royally at what I thought was a total lack of preparation. Josh and I left that game with 3 min left and I NEVER, EVER leave games early. I just couldn't take it anymore.

Then, BG goes into Athens and kicks Ohio's butt all over the field...definitely BG's best game of the year in 2006.

Just baffling wasn't it? The KSU game was probably the worst game we've played since pre-Urban, then to follow it up with what was definitely our best game of last year?

I hope you guys are right about this year. I'd hate to see a repeat of last season. It's all going to start with the QB position, IMO. Unless somebody steps up and shows they can make plays at that position I think we struggle mightily again.

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:27 am

I hope you guys are right about this year. I'd hate to see a repeat of last season. It's all going to start with the QB position, IMO. Unless somebody steps up and shows they can make plays at that position I think we struggle mightily again.[/quote]

yep

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:34 am

hammb wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:total lackluster effort against Kent State last year. I was pissed off royally at what I thought was a total lack of preparation. Josh and I left that game with 3 min left and I NEVER, EVER leave games early. I just couldn't take it anymore.

Then, BG goes into Athens and kicks Ohio's butt all over the field...definitely BG's best game of the year in 2006.
Just baffling wasn't it? The KSU game was probably the worst game we've played since pre-Urban, then to follow it up with what was definitely our best game of last year?

I hope you guys are right about this year. I'd hate to see a repeat of last season. It's all going to start with the QB position, IMO. Unless somebody steps up and shows they can make plays at that position I think we struggle mightily again.

I agree, Hammb. Anyone who asks me how I think BG is gonna do in 07, I've told them so much rides on the QB play. I feel our D will be solid...very solid. Running game should be even better this year. ST's....hmmm.

We'll see. I don't care who the QB is at this point. Just give me the guy that can move the chains, get the O into the red zone and SCORE.

That being said, BG can win anywhere from 10 to 3 games. As much as I want to believe we can beat Boston College...that will be very tough. As will Minnesota cuz we've struggled to stop good rushing teams lately. I am convinced we can upset Michigan State. The MAC schedule isn't that difficult. We get Ohio and Akron at home as well as tsun. I think our toughest MAC road game will be Kent State. Other conf road games are Buffalo, Miami and EMU...all winnable games.

The MAC West is definitely the stronger division these days. We can win the East in 2007...but so could 4 other teams.

98 days.....