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dstubb wrote:Unfortunately AT is behind Sheehan on the depth chart.
Not unfortunate to me. AT had ample chance to seize the job last year, and came up short. He followed that up by looking like the third best QB on the team at the spring game.
And that's saying something given that Sheehan struggled at times and Glaud didn't get that many opportunities.

If Turner is our best QB we better hope he's improved drastically over what he showed most of last year and in the spring game. I'd be quite happy to see somebody other than Turner take the bulk of this year's snaps.


You sure do take the opportunites to put down Turner. If they go with inexperience you will get the same results as the last season.
That's because Turner's play was terribly inconsistent last year and we saw a lot more bad than good. He was then terrible again in the spring game, which doesn't mean much, but it would've been a chance for him to win some of the fans over. Like I said, if he is our best QB we better hope he's improved drastically over last year.

If we go with inexperience we would no doubt struggle early in the season, but I'd expect whoever is playing QB to improve as the season went on. Something Turner has yet to do in his time at BG.
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I must admit, and I am not really sure why, that I feel[/b] more comfortable when I hear Sheehan will be starting. It may be just because AT was so inconsitent and Sheehan seems a bit more crisp. I honestly have never seen Sheehan play but I feel more confident in this team breaking .500 with him at the helm[/u]
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Sheehan didn't do anything last year, IMO, to make warrant a great deal of confidence. The summer/fall practices will tell the tale.
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I think the QB with the most ability is Glaud, but that is from very limited viewing. Who knows if he's ready to run the offense or not.

I'm not confident at all in us being able to move the ball consistently through the air with Sheehan or Turner based on what I saw from both last year and so far this year (Spring game). They have a lot of work to do, and hopefully they put in the time and make some big leaps before the season starts. If they don't, the offense will be just as painful as last year was, save the QB draws God-willing.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I think the QB with the most ability is Glaud, but that is from very limited viewing. Who knows if he's ready to run the offense or not.

I'm not confident at all in us being able to move the ball consistently through the air with Sheehan or Turner based on what I saw from both last year and so far this year (Spring game). They have a lot of work to do, and hopefully they put in the time and make some big leaps before the season starts. If they don't, the offense will be just as painful as last year was, save the QB draws God-willing.
I agree, I think Glaud should be the man at QB. Of course we haven't seen much of him, but from what we have seen it has been promising. Also Turner hasn't shown through and I think Sheehan has actually been worse than Turner.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I think the QB with the most ability is Glaud, but that is from very limited viewing. Who knows if he's ready to run the offense or not.

I'm not confident at all in us being able to move the ball consistently through the air with Sheehan or Turner based on what I saw from both last year and so far this year (Spring game). They have a lot of work to do, and hopefully they put in the time and make some big leaps before the season starts. If they don't, the offense will be just as painful as last year was, save the QB draws God-willing.
I agree, I think Glaud should be the man at QB. Of course we haven't seen much of him, but from what we have seen it has been promising. Also Turner hasn't shown through and I think Sheehan has actually been worse than Turner.
How can people say Glaud should be the man at QB? I understand why someone may not want to see Turner there because of his season last year, but he did show improvement near the end of the season. Glaud played a limited amount of plays in the Spring game and did decent so everyone thinks he should be the guy. There is a reason he is third on the depth chart still. If he was really a guy that could potentially start for us right now I am pretty sure the coaches (the people that watch him play everyday at practice) would have him higher on the depth chart. Maybe Tony Hunter should start. I mean, he had a decent long ball in the spring game, I think hes ready :roll: ...
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Last night Coach said Sheehan is coming on strong and he wants to find the guy that can move the chains consistently and get into the end zone. He also said they are preparing to get the passing game strong again. The running game doesn't worry me a bit. We have one of the best and deepest O Line units in the MAC. Our backs are talented with Ransom, Macon and Bullock. Word is we are getting a couple talented JUCO WR's...one for sure from CA.

The D is gonna fly and wreak havoc in 07...that I'm confident. Hargove said the speed of our D has really increased since he first got to BG and the new turf will show that.

I think the difference between a successful season and one that isn't will be QB play and ST's. IF we can get consistent play in those two areas, we will contend for the MAC title. The West is definitely the stronger division right now and the East is up for grabs.

It was also confirmed last night the Temple home opener is now a noon kickoff for ESPN Regional and GC said the opener at Minnesota will "more than likely" start at 7:30 CST, 8:30 EST.

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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I think the QB with the most ability is Glaud, but that is from very limited viewing. Who knows if he's ready to run the offense or not.

I'm not confident at all in us being able to move the ball consistently through the air with Sheehan or Turner based on what I saw from both last year and so far this year (Spring game). They have a lot of work to do, and hopefully they put in the time and make some big leaps before the season starts. If they don't, the offense will be just as painful as last year was, save the QB draws God-willing.
I agree, I think Glaud should be the man at QB. Of course we haven't seen much of him, but from what we have seen it has been promising. Also Turner hasn't shown through and I think Sheehan has actually been worse than Turner.
How can people say Glaud should be the man at QB? I understand why someone may not want to see Turner there because of his season last year, but he did show improvement near the end of the season. Glaud played a limited amount of plays in the Spring game and did decent so everyone thinks he should be the guy. There is a reason he is third on the depth chart still. If he was really a guy that could potentially start for us right now I am pretty sure the coaches (the people that watch him play everyday at practice) would have him higher on the depth chart. Maybe Tony Hunter should start. I mean, he had a decent long ball in the spring game, I think hes ready :roll: ...
When AT gets more than his fair share of opportunites and doesnt capitalize, that crosses him off as the man. When TS gets some fairly decent opportunites and performs even worse than AT that defintely crosses him off as the man. That's why I and others want Glaud, because he hasn't been given a chance. I really don't see how he can be much worse and if he really is then I want to pay my money to go see a game where he plays and does worse. Then I will cross him off too, but until then I would like to see the kid get his chance.
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BGFootball wrote: How can people say Glaud should be the man at QB? I understand why someone may not want to see Turner there because of his season last year, but he did show improvement near the end of the season. Glaud played a limited amount of plays in the Spring game and did decent so everyone thinks he should be the guy. There is a reason he is third on the depth chart still. If he was really a guy that could potentially start for us right now I am pretty sure the coaches (the people that watch him play everyday at practice) would have him higher on the depth chart. Maybe Tony Hunter should start. I mean, he had a decent long ball in the spring game, I think hes ready :roll: ...
You're absolutely right, but at the same time, there was just something about Glaud that I sensed at the Spring game. He seems to have a "presence" about him that Sheehan and Turner don't have. I don't know what it is, but it's there. It sounds silly, and it's based on next to no physical evidence, but I just feel Glaud is going to be very good if he's given the opportunity.

As far as "trusting the staff"....Yeah. They ran back-to-back QB sweeps on 3rd and 7 and 4th and 7 last year in the opponent's red zone with the game on the line. Pardon me if I only trust our staff as far as I can throw 'em.
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THe OC that called those plays is coaching the OL down in the Bayou....

So far as the QB sitch goes...the thing about AT is he's been such a tease.
He looked great against Buffalo, FIU and Akron. He did OK with MIami in the muck (got us int position to win late against Akron and Miami) and then he was dreadful against CMU and most of the first half of the Toledo game.

The Toledo game really demosntrated how frustrating he's been. He plays poorly enough to get pulled, the he comes back out and makes a play on that TD throw to Cory at the end of the first half that I really don't think Josh or Omar could have done any better. He did a pretty good job in the second half too...if Brantley hadn't of dropped an easy catch on third and long on the first drive of the second half, who knwos what might have happened agianst those UT pusbags...

AT has the skills to be all MAC. He HAS to step up and show some consitency this year or he'll be baking up SHeehan and Gaud.

Personally, I 'd love to see what Glaud can do in a game
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AT has the skills to be all MAC. He HAS to step up and show some consitency this year or he'll be baking up...

If ever there was a funnier typo, I haven't seen it.
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Sheehan certainly did not seem to possess a lot of confidence during the Spring game. He seemed hesitant on every throw and looked to be guiding the ball rather then just throwing it.

I'm hoping the fact that Brandon says he won't name a starter until we go through two-a-days and such is an indication that he wants to see what Nate Brown can bring to the table. Given our somewhat dreadful QB situation, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is the starter sometime this year.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see Turner playing a different position if he isn't starting at QB. He's in his fourth year in the program. If he can't win the starting job by now, put him out there somewhere else to at least get his athleticism on the field somewhere.
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BGFootball wrote: How can people say Glaud should be the man at QB? I understand why someone may not want to see Turner there because of his season last year, but he did show improvement near the end of the season. Glaud played a limited amount of plays in the Spring game and did decent so everyone thinks he should be the guy. There is a reason he is third on the depth chart still. If he was really a guy that could potentially start for us right now I am pretty sure the coaches (the people that watch him play everyday at practice) would have him higher on the depth chart. Maybe Tony Hunter should start. I mean, he had a decent long ball in the spring game, I think hes ready :roll: ...
You're absolutely right, but at the same time, there was just something about Glaud that I sensed at the Spring game. He seems to have a "presence" about him that Sheehan and Turner don't have. I don't know what it is, but it's there. It sounds silly, and it's based on next to no physical evidence, but I just feel Glaud is going to be very good if he's given the opportunity.

As far as "trusting the staff"....Yeah. They ran back-to-back QB sweeps on 3rd and 7 and 4th and 7 last year in the opponent's red zone with the game on the line. Pardon me if I only trust our staff as far as I can throw 'em.
I agree that there is a presence about Glaud. He is a leader, at practices and games he is always encouraging the team. As far as having what it takes to start right now....its just not there. Maybe that will change this year, but right now he is where he is on the depth chart for a reason. Both AT and TS have a ton of potential, but will they take advantage of that? We'll see...I have nothing against Glaud because he is a great leader and has alot of athletic ability, but if you watch him at practices he just does not 'gel' as well with the receivers. I agree that Glaud had a good spring game with the little touches he had, but AT had a good 4th quarter against UT. Im not ready to say who should be starting, but I do feel strongly right now that AG isnt the guy RIGHT NOW...maybe he will make me eat my words...I personally feel AT should be the opening day starter and if he bombs then put in TS. But its starting to look like TS may be the man...so whoever it may be, I hope they can lead us to a MAC Championship :)
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I haven't seen enough consistency from Turner or anything from Sheehan to give me any warm fuzzies heading into the new season. Glaud looked good in the spring game, but it was a spring game, with very limited touches for him. At this point, I'm not real enamored with our QB situation at all, and I would make sure that Nate Brown is given a fair shot at seeing playing time this season as well.

The thing I don't like about Turner is that he played last year, all the way through the end, like he was a Freshman. Unfortunately, he's not a freshman, and he needs to get consistent and do it real quickly if he wants to play here. As Flip mentioned he had some good games/halves, but he had some real stinkers to where he took his team completely out of the game. We cannot have that again this year.

Sheehan seems more willing to throw downfield than AT, but as Warthog mentioned during the spring game (and during his gametime last year as well) he never seemed to just get comfortable and throw the ball. He was guiding it and missing his targets; resulting in INTs. He has some potential as a pocket passer, and he's still only a Soph, so I think he can grow.

At this point we have a RS Jr, true Soph, and RS Frosh competing for the job and none of them have shown the ability to consistently put the team in position to win the games. Until one of them does, I'll continue to be quite pessimistic about our chances of winning consistently.
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Boy, good assessment there.
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