Agreed. 8 years ago it was reasonable to expect Washington to be a quality opponent. They just haven't been the same since Nueheisel left.hammb wrote:OSU's schedule this year is pathetic. I'll give them Washington, because they were a legitimate program when the deal was signed...not OSU's fault that these deals get done 8 years or more in advance and that Washington fell on their faces.
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I was checking Phil Steele's guide and it goes back to 2002 as well.hammb wrote:Like I said in my earlier post Freak...it's not Usually. It's generally 50/50. They almost always have a home & home against a big program. On the years that they get the home end of that package they only play 4 road games. When they're on the road end they play 5.Falconfreak90 wrote:I hear ya and that's why I said "Usually".BGFalconfromCincy wrote:I agree there, but you know that buckeye, tek, or one of the others will respond with "what about Texas last season"Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.Usually, OSU plays 4 road games a season...against Big 10 teams cuz they have to. I'm sure we'll hear about how much money OSU makes and why wouldn't they want 8 home games a year and what a great privilege it is for us inferior teams to play in the Shoe...blah blah blah.
For quick research I looked at ESPN's OSU page. They only go back to 2002, so it's not a large sample size. Still in that group they played 5 road games in '02, '04, '06, and '07. They played 4 road games in '03 & '05. In both cases it was because they had BCS conference teams play in the 'shoe. (NC State & Washington in '03, Texas in '05).
2002-8 home games, 1 neutral game at Paul Brown Stadium vs Cincy and 4 road games. The first 4 of 5 were at the Shoe and the other at PBS. No OOC road games.
2003-8 home games including the first five at the Shoe. 4 road games, no OOC road games.
2004-6 home games, 5 road. One OOC road game at NC State.
2005-7 home games including the first 4 at the Shoe. No OOC road games and 4 total road games.
2006-7 home games, 5 road. One OOC road game at Texas.
2007-7 home games, 5 road. One OOC road game at Washington. 3 of the first 4 games are at the Shoe.
in 02, 03 and 05, they had 4 or 5 home games to start the season. They only reason they had to go on the road was for conference games.
I think it speaks for itself. Sure they played NC State and have Washington this year...not exactly BCS powerhouses, though. Texas is a big boy, no doubt, and they went in and soundly beat TX last season.
OSU will never have less than 7 home games a year now that the sked is 12 games. Half the time they will play 8 outta 12 at the Shoe. You think playing 2/3's of your games at home helps?
I know, I know...that's the reality of college football.
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Agreed 100%. If we were in the same position as OSU we'd play seven or eight home games a year too, none of us would say one word about it being wrong and everybody would love the fact we'd get to see our Falcons an extra few games at home.hammb wrote:OSU's schedule this year is pathetic. I'll give them Washington, because they were a legitimate program when the deal was signed...not OSU's fault that these deals get done 8 years or more in advance and that Washington fell on their faces.
Youngstown there is no excuse for. I don't care how many ties they have with Tressel or whatever, it's pathetic. Personally I don't think 1A teams should EVER play 1AA teams, and certainly not those teams that are in BCS conferences. If I were the NCAA I'd make a simple rule that any team playing a 1AA school is not eligible for the BCS that season; problem solved.
Playing multiple MAC schools I don't really have a problem with. They're 1A and in state schools keeping the money in state. KSU & UA might give them a game this year too.
Normally I don't have a problem with OSU's scheduling. They usually play a couple mid majors at home and play a home & home with a major conference foe.
The schedule this year isn't that great for OSU, the whole Washington sucking thing is not their fault. I'm not a big fan of 1-A teams playing 1-AA teams and this is the first time I can remember OSU doing it. I hate the fact we've been doing it for a while now. At least in playing YSU it keeps the money in state and I'm sure it will be fun for a lot of their players who grew up in Ohio and were OSU fans to get to play in Ohio Stadium.
In general there's nothing wrong with OSU's schedule. Their's isn't any different than that of other major schools. Under Tressel they've proven they aren't afraid to schedule anybody which is better than a lot of BCS schools can say. If you look at their future schedule they've got road games against USC, Miami, Cal and Virginia Tech in the next eight years and I've heard from some OSU fans that there could be a home and home in the works with Oklahoma after that.
Again, there's nothing wrong with it if your intent is to take the easiest path possible towards a BCS game.
Two MAC schools, a I-AA program and an average (at best) BCS program is cake, particularly given the fact that they don't face the meat-grinder in conference that an SEC school does. Play a Texas-caliber program every year and you'll have an argument. NC State and Washington don't cut it.
Big 10 and Big East schools should have at least one of their representatives--if not both--in national championship games for the forsseable future because of the relative weakness of their conference schedule and the unwillingness of the conference heavyweights to consistently challenege themselves in non-conference matchups.
Two MAC schools, a I-AA program and an average (at best) BCS program is cake, particularly given the fact that they don't face the meat-grinder in conference that an SEC school does. Play a Texas-caliber program every year and you'll have an argument. NC State and Washington don't cut it.
Big 10 and Big East schools should have at least one of their representatives--if not both--in national championship games for the forsseable future because of the relative weakness of their conference schedule and the unwillingness of the conference heavyweights to consistently challenege themselves in non-conference matchups.
yeah i know, because osu just went to texas last year and beat them in their own backyard and will be going to usc(southern cal) in 2008 and miami(fl) in 2010. your an idiot.Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.
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First off, the proper word is "you're" an idiot. As in "you are".buckeye wrote:yeah i know, because osu just went to texas last year and beat them in their own backyard and will be going to usc(southern cal) in 2008 and miami(fl) in 2010. your an idiot.Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.
Second, just because the Buck$ actually play ONE road game OOC every 3 years or so doesn't mean squat with me. Look back thru this thread and see how many times OSWho has played home games as opposed to road games.
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I knew that was coming, took alittle longer, but I knew it was comingbuckeye wrote:yeah i know, because osu just went to texas last year and beat them in their own backyard and will be going to usc(southern cal) in 2008 and miami(fl) in 2010. your an idiot.Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.
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Now, now, now, Freak. Everyone knows that the quality of education is directly correlated to athletic department budget and don't think its [sic] not.Falconfreak90 wrote:
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I'm sorry, great moderator. I was out of handRightupinthere wrote:Now, now, now, Freak. Everyone knows that the quality of education is directly correlated to athletic department budget and don't think its [sic] not.Falconfreak90 wrote:
First off, the proper word is "you're" an idiot. As in "you are".![]()
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And Oklahoma and I think there is a deal in the works with Va Tech for a home and home.buckeye wrote:yeah i know, because osu just went to texas last year and beat them in their own backyard and will be going to usc(southern cal) in 2008 and miami(fl) in 2010. your an idiot.Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.
OSU is the one BCS school who is getting it done year after year.
OSU originally had Washington and Syracuse on the schedule for this year. Syracuse backed out. Admittedly they may not be a great team but atleast it would have been two BCS teams instead of just the one.
Who else has been consistently scheduling tough games so early in the year for the last 3 or 4 years and has them booked for the next 6-8 years coming?
You dont see Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, FSU, Miami, or anyone else doing it.
OSU is doing it with home and home series so every other year they are on the road with a big out of conference game.
So this years schedule didnt turn out due to Washington falling apart and Syracuse running away from their commitment.
then who cares.. you should be happy because it will hurt our strength of schedule and may keep us out of the title game if anyone else is undefeated at the end of the year.
Notre Dame. Plays USC, Michigan, and Penn State this year alone.tekekini wrote:Who else has been consistently scheduling tough games so early in the year for the last 3 or 4 years and has them booked for the next 6-8 years coming?
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not just Texas, there was NC state who was pretty hyped up at the time. then there is Miami, USC, california, Oklahoma and Va TECH that are done deals or still in the works. Those are all home and home deals. not too shabby I must say. All BCS schools have the same kind of schedules, where 3 out of 4 are home games, sometimes all of them are at home. It is the benefit of being a powerhouse and a money machine. It is a benefit for the smaller schools who get a half a million to a million dollar paychecks for going into those BCS stadiums to play a football game.BGFalconfromCincy wrote:I agree there, but you know that buckeye, tek, or one of the others will respond with "what about Texas last season"Falconfreak90 wrote:I'm surprised to see the Buck$ actually going on the road to Washington in non conf action. Usually they play their first 5 games every year at the Shoe.Tricky_Falcon wrote:Hell according to ESPN, osu plays one of the easiest schedules this year. Heck it looks like they want to join the MAC. They basically have a MAC schedule. Bayless might as well play for the Falcons and follow the family tradition.
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