tekekini wrote:
ut weren't these fake jobs arranged for them by someone within the team or athletic department?
No.
Again you missed the point. My point is that Bob Stoops is a very moral and respectable guy and he took direct action and was punished for it. That's what ticks me off. I just picked Ohio State to compare it to because that's the most recent and most memorable event.[/quote
Do you know Bob Stoops personally or what you get from TV. How do you know he is so moral and respectable off of the camera? I also didnt say Bob was the one who arranged anything. I said that I heard that someone, not bob just someone, arranged it. It would be a punishment against the team and the Athletic department of wich Bob is a part of. It is not a punishement against Bob himself.
MarkL wrote:This really ticks me off. Just a few years ago, Troy Smith, a young up and coming QB, was doing the same thing at OSU - taking money he didn't deserve. He got caught and got a ceremonial slap on the wrist. At Oklahoma, a really good athletic department with an incredible coach in Bob Stoops, had Rhett Bomar, a young up and coming QB, who was caught taking money he didn't deserve and Stoops kicked him off the team. No real difference between what the two players did, but big difference in the punishment. So why does Oklahoma get in all this trouble? It makes no sense how they get the axe while others don't. Bob Stoops is an incredible man who places good morals above a good team and he does not deserve this.
True they are similar infractions, but the amount of money and timetable for which they took place are far different. It was determined Troy took $500 on one occasion and paid it back. I can't see kicking a kid off the team for that. On the other hand the two Oklahoma kids took money over and over and over again for a period of a few months for jobs they didn't do and the total amount was well into the thousands. I'm sure it's not that cut and dry and we likely don't know the whole story of what the NCAA found for them to remove eight wins from the record books.
The two Oklahoma players QB Rhett Bomar and Guard J. D. Quinn each were paid an excess of over $5000.00 in the course of the summer for work they didn't do. Both were turning in faulty time cards at a local car dealership. They were working 3 hours a day but writing in 8 hours. Bob Stoops found out about the indiscretion and immediately kicked them off the team and turned the program in. Both players paid back the money, but were still not allowed back on the team.
I think the NCAA went a bit overboard with their decision. How can you punish the rest of the team for the actions of two players? How can Notre Dame and USC have people give players a quarter of a million dollars, get free condos and have people take exams for them, yet no punishment?
Bob Stoops runs a clean program, but he can't be expected to babysit 24hrs a day.
OU's appealing the decision in regard to the record change and hopefully the NCAA will come to their senses and overturn this error. Many other universities do far worse and get nothing!!!!
I agree with Dr Sooner. Seems like someone at the NCAA has an agenda against OU. This is overboard. I like Stoops as a coach and the Stoops family in Youngstown is a great group of people.
Michael W.
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