Our Rink look 2007-2008

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:44 am

Even though I know hockey would be moving to a Convo, I still don't have to like it. I'm just way too weary of our home-ice advantage after seeing what the Schott in Columbus did to hockey games. I still keep hoping for a new competition sheet being built on the east-side replacing the old tennis courts. Dump money into the old sheet to replace the freezing unit and bring everything up to code.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:00 pm

BGDrew wrote:Even though I know hockey would be moving to a Convo, I still don't have to like it.

Do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you randomly speculating again?

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:08 pm

TG1996 wrote:
BGDrew wrote:Even though I know hockey would be moving to a Convo, I still don't have to like it.
Do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you randomly speculating again?

If it's speculation, it's speculation with a whole hell of a lot of truth involved. The last I had heard was that a couple months ago the team was being told to save the cost of a complete revamp of the IA, they should expect that they would move to the Convo if it was going to be built.

FalconTurf · Post by **FalconTurf** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:12 pm

BGDrew wrote:
TG1996 wrote:
BGDrew wrote:Even though I know hockey would be moving to a Convo, I still don't have to like it.
Do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you randomly speculating again?
If it's speculation, it's speculation with a whole hell of a lot of truth involved. The last I had heard was that a couple months ago the team was being told to save the cost of a complete revamp of the IA, they should expect that they would move to the Convo if it was going to be built.

My memory bank seems to recall the AD suggesting the cost of 2 arenas coming in lower than a combined facility. That's why I believed the 2 arena option was the preferred choice. Anyone else get this impression?

AZIce · Post by **AZIce** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:31 pm

FalconTurf wrote:
BGDrew wrote:
TG1996 wrote:
BGDrew wrote:Even though I know hockey would be moving to a Convo, I still don't have to like it.
Do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you randomly speculating again?
If it's speculation, it's speculation with a whole hell of a lot of truth involved. The last I had heard was that a couple months ago the team was being told to save the cost of a complete revamp of the IA, they should expect that they would move to the Convo if it was going to be built.
My memory bank seems to recall the AD suggesting the cost of 2 arenas coming in lower than a combined facility. That's why I believed the 2 arena option was the preferred choice. Anyone else get this impression?

From what I found online about the proposed convocation center, nothing was mentioned about it including ice. The two arena's would make sense from the aspect of, with the sport of hockey you have to have a practice rink. Multi-use arenas don't bode well for practices as they have too many events going on to keep a teams regular practice schedule. That's why OSU kept and upgraded the OSU Ice Rink, even after the Schott. That's why pro teams build or use local rinks for practice 75% of the time.

So BG's choices would be: keep the Ice Arena for practices(which from what you guys say would cost some cashola and seem to be a waste of money and land), put a main sheet AND a practice sheet in the new Convocation center(extra cashola again, plus what about the curling rink, maybe it just gets axed I guess) or build an new ice arena for the current programs/tennants and demo the old one.

The multi-use convocation center with two ice sheets, basketball and volleyball facilities would easily run 70-80 million maybe more depending on how many seats you put in it.

A 4,000-5,000 seat hockey arena would run around 25-40 million.

I can see where the cost might be the same either way or at least pretty darn close. I know for fan reasons and home ice advantage, it will be much better in a hockey only facility versus a multi-use one, but like I said, from what you guys are saying anything would be better at this point.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:46 pm

A multi-use facility which included a court and ice under one roof would be much cheaper than a new basketball arena and a new ice arena separately.

FalconTurf · Post by **FalconTurf** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:14 pm

BGDrew wrote:A multi-use facility which included a court and ice under one roof would be much cheaper than a new basketball arena and a new ice arena separately.

Do we have those figures public?

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:52 pm

I'm pretty sure a new convo will be for basketball/volleyball and concerts/seminars/etc. only. It will NOT include a sheet of ice. That being said, from what I understand, they're not overlooking the ice arena when the fund raising kicks in and several million $ will be put towards upgrades, renovation and improvement of the existing facility. My GUESS is this will not include a second sheet of ice.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:22 pm

A second sheet of ice makes it possible to host tournaments and it makes you a better option for camps and the like...that's a revenue stream that I'm suprised they aren't at least taking a stab at.

falconwannabe · Post by **falconwannabe** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:55 pm

I know I don't have a lot of credibility as this is my first post on this board, but I can't seem to hold this in any longer with all of you talking about it. One source in the athletic department told me that an announcement will be made at the homecoming football game concerning the convocation center. Supposedly president Ribeau wants to go out with a bang and that they are looking to have the center fully operational in a few years (meaning hockey,basketball,volleyball,etc.). My source estimated that it would hold around 5 thousand fans and probably cost somewhere between 70 and 100 milion. The news that they are spending money on other sports then football is music to my ears. My source had also told me previously that the department had made an effort to pour its resources into the football program hoping that the program would rise up resuilting in a trickle-down effect for the other sports. That plan obviously hasn't gone as planned so I'm very excited for this upcoming project. GO FALCONS! BEAT THE GOPHERS!

AZIce · Post by **AZIce** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:23 am

If what your saying is true flaconwannabe it goes directly against what the university has published in its own masterplan documents which read:

Special Use
SP-1 New Convocation Center: 10,000 seat facility with a
basketball/volleyball court, meeting rooms, offi ces and food
service facilities. This will be an icon for BGSU and must
have an acceptable level of fi nish on all exterior faces; a
glass atrium and tower are included. The site improvements
include 6,300 s.f. hardscape, 430 renovated parking spaces
with interior landscaping and 99,500 s.f. landscaped area.
A separate marquis structure, architectural lighting and
enhanced signage are included with this facility.
Prerequisites: Replace displaced parking.
Cost: $42,000,000

They very well may have had a change of heart. That estimate seems low too me also. Toledo's new 8,000 seat downtown arena is costing 80 million. If you are saying 70-100 million...then it has to have ice and more than one sheet I would guess.....

BGFan · Post by **BGFan** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:50 am

What he stated is also counter to what I've heard. What I heard was that Ribeau vetoed the building that he described and what Ziggy stated is more in line with the final decision. Major improvements to the ice arena and a new convo for basketball, volleyball, etc. It should be noted that many of the improvements to the IA won't be noticed due to their nature (roof, compressor, etc.) but there are also some fairly major cosmetic changes planned.

falconwannabe · Post by **falconwannabe** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:35 pm

AZIce wrote:If what your saying is true flaconwannabe it goes directly against what the university has published in its own masterplan documents which read:

Special Use
SP-1 New Convocation Center: 10,000 seat facility with a
basketball/volleyball court, meeting rooms, offi ces and food
service facilities. This will be an icon for BGSU and must
have an acceptable level of fi nish on all exterior faces; a
glass atrium and tower are included. The site improvements
include 6,300 s.f. hardscape, 430 renovated parking spaces
with interior landscaping and 99,500 s.f. landscaped area.
A separate marquis structure, architectural lighting and
enhanced signage are included with this facility.
Prerequisites: Replace displaced parking.
Cost: $42,000,000

They very well may have had a change of heart. That estimate seems low too me also. Toledo's new 8,000 seat downtown arena is costing 80 million. If you are saying 70-100 million...then it has to have ice and more than one sheet I would guess.....

I wasn't even aware that there had been a published document concerning the subject. I had first heard what I posted back in May. Either way, something needs to be done regarding the ice arena.

hutchirish · Post by **hutchirish** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:31 pm

Where the hell were those lights when i played? (okay, technically practiced)