Gameday Crew to Va Tech

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:33 pm

Not sure what your talking about J4H, this article isn't overkill.

Dog mauls Vick autograph ball

Its like the dog knew he was supposed to hate Vick or something. Animals are so smart.

San Fran Falcon · Post by **San Fran Falcon** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:54 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?

I think the shooter and Vick were/are both pieces of s$#t. Both acts were disgusting and cold-blooded. It appears that there's more anger towards Vick because he's a high-profile athlete. Seung-Hui Cho was just a loopy kid who got picked on one too many times and snapped. Plus, he got what he deserved by turning the gun on himself. Can't really scrutinize a dead dude.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:57 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?

Very good point, J4H. Half the time the media was portraying that sick SOB as a "victim".

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:37 pm

Falconfreak90 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?
Very good point, J4H. Half the time the media was portraying that sick SOB as a "victim".

Well, of course. He was "mentally ill," so there should have been at least 14 different government programs established to help the kid deal with it. Unfortunately, the Bush administration allocated all available funds to that illegal and immoral war in Iraq, so those programs were never established. Republicans can be so heartless.

San Fran Falcon · Post by **San Fran Falcon** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:53 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?
Very good point, J4H. Half the time the media was portraying that sick SOB as a "victim".
Well, of course. He was "mentally ill," so there should have been at least 14 different government programs established to help the kid deal with it. Unfortunately, the Bush administration allocated all available funds to that illegal and immoral war in Iraq, so those programs were never established. Republicans can be so heartless.

Funny how this thread has gone from The Gameday crew at Va. Tech, to hating Beamer for defending Vick, to bashing Vick (which is justified), to protesting the war. Just an observation. I find it a bit humorous how topics transition from one thing to another.

How about we get back on track. Eagerly anticipating College GameDay with Herbstreit and Corso. Va. Tech was a tragedy and I hope that football can help ease the pain that a lot of people are feeling down there. Still, I'm not rooting for them to win a National Championship.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:57 pm

San Fran Falcon wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?
Very good point, J4H. Half the time the media was portraying that sick SOB as a "victim".
Well, of course. He was "mentally ill," so there should have been at least 14 different government programs established to help the kid deal with it. Unfortunately, the Bush administration allocated all available funds to that illegal and immoral war in Iraq, so those programs were never established. Republicans can be so heartless.
Funny how this thread has gone from The Gameday crew at Va. Tech, to hating Beamer for defending Vick, to bashing Vick (which is justified), to protesting the war. Just an observation. I find it a bit humorous how topics transition from one thing to another.

How about we get back on track. Eagerly anticipating College GameDay with Herbstreit and Corso. Va. Tech was a tragedy and I hope that football can help ease the pain that a lot of people are feeling down there. Still, I'm not rooting for them to win a National Championship.

I should have noted that my previous post was dripping with wet, gooey sarcasm.

I agree with the way you are looking at this situation, too. I really hope that this year, academically, athletically and socially, will help everyone in Blacksburg to move forward from last year's events, but that doesn't mean that I or anyone else needs to give a darn about their football team. As I do every year with every school (with the exception of one), I wish the Hokies luck.

San Fran Falcon · Post by **San Fran Falcon** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:05 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:
San Fran Falcon wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?
Very good point, J4H. Half the time the media was portraying that sick SOB as a "victim".
Well, of course. He was "mentally ill," so there should have been at least 14 different government programs established to help the kid deal with it. Unfortunately, the Bush administration allocated all available funds to that illegal and immoral war in Iraq, so those programs were never established. Republicans can be so heartless.
Funny how this thread has gone from The Gameday crew at Va. Tech, to hating Beamer for defending Vick, to bashing Vick (which is justified), to protesting the war. Just an observation. I find it a bit humorous how topics transition from one thing to another.

How about we get back on track. Eagerly anticipating College GameDay with Herbstreit and Corso. Va. Tech was a tragedy and I hope that football can help ease the pain that a lot of people are feeling down there. Still, I'm not rooting for them to win a National Championship.
I should have noted that my previous post was dripping with wet, gooey sarcasm.

I agree with the way you are looking at this situation, too. I really hope that this year, academically, athletically and socially, will help everyone in Blacksburg to move forward from last year's events, but that doesn't mean that I or anyone else needs to give a darn about their football team. As I do every year with every school (with the exception of one), I wish the Hokies luck.

I know Orange. I got the sarcasm.

Good stuff.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:32 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Anybody notice that there wasn't nearly as much anger towards the guy that shot up VT and killed a ton of people as there is towards Michael Vick for fighting and killing some dogs?

THANK YOU. Since when is one guy who played awhile ago more associated with a school than something that just happen this year? Since when is dog fighting more brutal than the worst school shooting in American history?

BGSUVA · Post by **BGSUVA** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:14 pm

different situations. if that ahole cho was still alive they certainly would still be on him, he's dead, we can't do anything else to him now. What do you expect people to do to him now?

I hope vt loses every game and am puking at the thought of them being "America's team"...I'd rather they call the cowboys that again. the tragic even t that happened back in April has zero to do with their athletic department

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:35 pm

BGSUVA wrote:different situations. if that ahole cho was still alive they certainly would still be on him, he's dead, we can't do anything else to him now. What do you expect people to do to him now?

I hope vt loses every game and am puking at the thought of them being "America's team"...I'd rather they call the cowboys that again. the tragic even t that happened back in April has zero to do with their athletic department

You can't be angry at people once they're dead? I still think Hitler is a big assface.

BGSUVA · Post by **BGSUVA** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:43 pm

that's not what I'm saying.

Use Hitler as another example, he killed tons of jews, how come people aren't talking about him as much as vick? because vick is the more recent news; because cho isn't around anymore to talk about.

BGFalconfromCincy · Post by **BGFalconfromCincy** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:45 pm

BGSUVA wrote:different situations. if that ahole cho was still alive they certainly would still be on him, he's dead, we can't do anything else to him now. What do you expect people to do to him now?

I hope vt loses every game and am puking at the thought of them being "America's team"...I'd rather they call the cowboys that again. the tragic even t that happened back in April has zero to do with their athletic department

It made have had nothing to do with the athletic department, but the Virginia Tech community will use athletics (especially football) to rally, support each other, heal, and attempt to get things back to some type of normal, just as New Yorkers used baseball the same way after 9/11

As for this "America's Team" thing, I have not heard a single VT player or coach say "we are america's team." I have heard the media say it, and have heard VT players and coaches say "they are referring to us as america's team"

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 pm

BGSUVA wrote:that's not what I'm saying.

Use Hitler as another example, he killed tons of jews, how come people aren't talking about him as much as vick? because vick is the more recent news; because cho isn't around anymore to talk about.

I expect Vick to be talked about more right now, because he's more recent. What I said is that I don't remember nearly this much general anger at the VT situation as I see/hear all over the place for the Vick deal. It seems to me, that a bigger deal is being made of this dog stuff now than was made about the VT thing then. There's a disconnect I'm just having trouble understanding.

I think maybe it's just because "dog people" are really annoying and overbearing. They stand out when they whine.