Lewis gone!!!

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:35 pm

Grant, AIM is not working here, so you know . . .

Ok, I'm still with Grant and OrangeandBrown as well.

Lewis' mother makes no mention of playing the point and if Ron has "advisors" telling him he needs to play the point in the NBA, he needs his head checked.

Ron is a legit 6'4". He runs well, has great hops for mid-major play and scores well. Those are characteristics of a NBA wing, not point guard.

McLeod had to learn the point, b/c he's about 4 inches shorter than Lewis and defensively becomes a liability at the next level.

Ron's biggest concerns at this point should be learning how to master the HS 3pt line, b/c God knows there's nights he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Ron's limited and that's being blatanly nice ballhandling skills would raise red flags over his ability to play point at the NBA level as well. I think scouts would throw in a tape of the OU debacle and see firsthand how well our guys as a whole handle the ball.

Wamer is very much the company man everyone makes him out to be. He rarely states his own opinion, as most of the time, it's something recylced from FoxSports or ESPN from a few days prior and his show has no character or interest.

12-17 does not exactly translate into a stellar year, so why wouldn't a coach be open to the idea of letting Ron play more point and putting an equally or more athletic Wright on the wing to mix things up. The answer is it was never brought up.

After reading this, I now have two theories on what went on . . .

1) Ron is Wright's best friend and roommate. He became disheartened when the winter situation whatever that was happened and subsequently went into various "fog delay" moments for the rest of the season. Ron had questions going into the summer about this group, they in his mind again appear to turn on Wright. Again IN HIS MIND appear to turn on Wright and he says if you don't want Wright, you don't get me either.

2) Ron looking back on the season sees that the only way he'll get POY mention is if he goes off for 20+ and maybe even has to get to 25+ a night . . . He remembers all of the zone that was played against us, in part to shut down the only two athletes we had, Lewis and Wright. Ron wants a change in the offense, but not to play point, Ron wants to run more . . . Dakich says no. Because let's face it, Larry Bird isn't going to score 25+ a night in a STANDING motion offense, much less Ron Lewis. I think that Ron and Wright wanted to get out and run, but with who? themselves??? Soler maybe?

I don't know . . . I find it very difficult to put all of our collective faith in the Norm Wamer basket.

Perhaps my theories are way off, but I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's reactions.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:50 pm

OptionQB wrote:. . . I find it very difficult to put all of our collective faith in the Norm Wamer basket.

With that statement, at least, you're right on.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:26 pm

ZiggyZoomba wrote:
OptionQB wrote:. . . I find it very difficult to put all of our collective faith in the Norm Wamer basket.
With that statement, at least, you're right on.

Took the words right out of my mouth Grant. I listen to Norm every day, just because he's really the only local show in town. He's terrible, and annoying. His co-hosts are worse. Their opinions mean very little to me, and I'm also hesitant to buy into their "sources"

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:36 pm

I was talking with a player off campus late last night, and I can't say his name for obvious reasons, but he said this has been going on now for the past few days. Lewis felt his playing time would diminish with Robinson and Dakich told him Robinson would be the starting PG. He blew up at Dakich and asked for his release and told Dakich that he needed to play point to make it to the NBA. Dakich asked if he was a team player and he said NO! He was only looking out for himself. If this is the case, well then I am glad he is leaving. We don't need a selfish ballhog on our team.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:59 pm

hammb wrote:
ZiggyZoomba wrote:
OptionQB wrote:. . . I find it very difficult to put all of our collective faith in the Norm Wamer basket.
With that statement, at least, you're right on.
Took the words right out of my mouth Grant. I listen to Norm every day, just because he's really the only local show in town. He's terrible, and annoying. His co-hosts are worse. Their opinions mean very little to me, and I'm also hesitant to buy into their "sources"

Agreed. I only listen to "The Ticket" because is it the only sports show available. BTW, did Benson get kicked off or is his just on vacation?

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:04 pm

does dakich take his players on vacation since he is out of town and couldnt comment?

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:50 pm

Warthog wrote:
Agreed. I only listen to "The Ticket" because is it the only sports show available. BTW, did Benson get kicked off or is his just on vacation?

I believe he is just on vacation. I'm not a fan of his either, although he beats the hell outta Tom Cole & Dunc. "Whaddayou think Dunc?" AAAGGGGHHHH

I hated that show with a passion. A 2 hour advertisment for the BW3 on Dussel (which is a great BW3, but STILL!).

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:06 pm

OptionQB wrote: Ron's biggest concerns at this point should be learning how to master the HS 3pt line, b/c God knows there's nights he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

LOL!
That, is a priceless summary, right there!

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:10 pm

I'm not disputing you talked to a player off campus or anything like that, but this is called DAMAGE CONTROL my friend, and if you're giving the village idiot (Wamer) the party line, then you'll give it to the public as well to make sure it vibes.

I, moreso than others, have been rather outspoken about the current situation we find ourselves in. I see double digit wins as a daunting task right now and especially if Wright leaves. But I will be damned if we've fallen so far that our starting PG is a 5'9" kid that waited until the first week of August to make his college choice. Maybe he's the real deal. I don't know, but who the hell was going to take a seat for Robinson? Wright? Reimold? Again, looking at this logically, the story with or without Norm Wamer has major holes.

jlozer8 · Post by **jlozer8** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:19 pm

OptionQB wrote: Ron is a legit 6'4". He runs well, has great hops for mid-major play and scores well. Those are characteristics of a NBA wing, not point guard.

Aside from Allen Iverson (6'0") and Ray Allen (6'5"), you don't see many 2 guards in the NBA that are smaller than about 6'6". While 6'4" may be big for a point guard(although Jason Kidd is 6'4" and Magic Johnson was 6'9"), I also think it is a little small for a 2 guard. In my opinion, which I know people will disagree with, Ron Lewis could be a point guard with a similar (but obviously not as good) style of play to someone like Steve Francis. There is nothing wrong with a scoring point guard with great hops. It all just depends on what a team wants.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:44 pm

I agree... Ron would struggle as a 2 guard and I don't think he has the smarts or handle to play the point. Even at 6'-4" , more physical PG's like Billups would beat him to death.

The last thing Ron should be basing his educational choice on is NBA preparation. He just isn't that good of a prospect.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:49 pm

OptionQB wrote:I'm not disputing you talked to a player off campus or anything like that, but this is called DAMAGE CONTROL my friend, and if you're giving the village idiot (Wamer) the party line, then you'll give it to the public as well to make sure it vibes.

Option, that's exactly right. I think they are cornered and looking to control the damage and looking a little desperate.

mossmaidi · Post by **mossmaidi** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:53 pm

With Lewis gone, who do you all think is going to fill the 2 spot. Is Wright going to move over to the 2 with Robinson Jr. starting at 1. I personally think we can still be at least competitive depending on how these new guys turn out. I think this is an awesome opportunity for John Reimold to establish himself as the leader of the team and pick up Ron's lost points. That's just my opinion, but Reimold has the ability to be a 1st team MAC performer no question!

bacn3 · Post by **bacn3** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:39 pm

one thing i won't miss is ron's brother center front row yelling at everyone using way to many seats on the sideline squad!!!!

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:02 pm

If the dust would finally settle, we might be OK. We'll have 11 guys, and one of them would be a health GBitch.

STARTERS
Robinson
Wright
Reimold
Almanson
Lefeld

BENCH
Floyd
Montgomery
GBitch
Soler
Eyink
Vandermeer.

Despite it all, this is a very decent roster. If we can avoid any furthur turmoil, we may looking at 14-16 wins. Vandermeer is listed at 245 bounds and this Robinson kid averaged 6.4 steals per game. That's a ton of steals. I really hope that Montgomery added some serious muscle over the summer.