Something else to ponder...

[Falconfreak90]

The Oline has 3 SR's...Lichtensteiger, Nystrom and Huelsman. Brandon Curtis is a RS JR and Shane Steffy is a RS SO, IIRC.

[bgsufalcon24]

Even if we lose this week, if the game is close and we fight hard, you could make a case that we could still go 7-5 with 3 home games out of 5 left, and 1 road game that might as well be a neutral site game in Ypsilanti.

Good point and very true. While the MAC title would likely be out of reach, if we could win out, a possible bowl game could still exist. Looking at the games at Miami and Kent State a couple weeks ago, I was hoping at worst for a split. I felt we had the better chance of a win at Miami, but after falling the way we did in Oxford, it really has me worried about Kent State - and the rest of the season for that matter. What worries me the most is if we do lose to Kent State, that it could break our back. I hope like hell it doesn’t happen, but if it does, I could see us coming home from BC, Miami and Kent State with our tail between our legs and roll over and play dead against Ohio the next week and then just go through the motions the rest of the way out as in recent years past.

Why does everybody say we rolled over at the end of last year? How quickly we forget that we nearly pulled off an unbelievable comeback to beat Akron the week after the loss to Temple, and would have were it not for a **** offensive pass interference call on the tying touchdown. And we had Miami beat the next week, but Ellis shanked a chip shot field goal attempt and we lost. It's not like we weren't very, VERY close to winning both of those games, the latter of which we absolutely should have won. If our kicker had had ever stepped in a puddle of mud before in his life before that game, we would have won.

Alright, the Toledo game I'll give it to you, our guys were tanking it that night. But I think that had more to do with getting raped by the zebras against Akron and then suffering unexpected last second heartbreak against Miami than the loss to Temple.

And no, I don't expect us to roll over and play dead against OHIO, regardlesss of the circumstances. When was the last time we lost to Ohio? If there's a Miami Whammy against us, they must have a BG curse of some kind, especially after last year when they lost to us at home for their only MAC loss of the year. If it wasn't a curse before, it certainly is after last year.

Oh, and one last thing...Ohio sucks. They weren't even that good last year, the only reason they went to the MACC was because the traditional powers in the East all had down years. They didn't get better, everybody else got worse (which is a phenomenon we're currently seeing with Buffalo). Central Michigan crushed them in the MAC Championship and they got murdered in their bowl game because they had no business playing in either of those games. We would've fared better against CMU, we did when we played them at Kelly/Shorts earlier in the year.

[Warthog]

And we had Miami beat the next week, but Ellis shanked a chip shot field goal attempt and we lost. ... If our kicker had had ever stepped in a puddle of mud before in his life before that game, we would have won.

Brandon paying you to say that? Quit blaming the kicker. He is out there for one play. Given the conditions, the rest of the team should have been working that much harder to keep from having to put the kicker in that siutation. If you recall, the play calling sucked at the end of the game as well.

[PGY Tiercel]

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Why does everybody say we rolled over at the end of last year?

How about this for a reason.

"I don't think it's that type of team that will just give up," quarterback Tyler Sheehan said. "We kind of gave up last year."

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Yup -- when you drop 5 straight at the end of the year in a conference that sucks balls as a whole, you quit.

[Falconfreak90]

Yup -- when you drop 5 straight at the end of the year in a conference that sucks balls as a whole, you quit.

Have to agree. The UT game? BG didn't show up at all with the exception of CP. Even my parents, watching the game at home, said it looked like the team was going thru the motions that night.

[hammb]

Yup -- when you drop 5 straight at the end of the year in a conference that sucks balls as a whole, you quit.

Have to agree. The UT game? BG didn't show up at all with the exception of CP. Even my parents, watching the game at home, said it looked like the team was going thru the motions that night.

Yup, Saturday's Miami game looked painfully familiar.

To argue whether or not last year's team gave up seems pretty stupid. Especially when we have our current starting QB quoted as ADMITTING THEY GAVE UP!

A win this week could go a long way to save us from going down a similar path to last year. This is as much of a must win game as you could ever hope for. Another performance like last week and I hope the coaching search begins on Monday.

[Warthog]

Another performance like last week and I hope the coaching search begins on Monday.

I hope it doesn't take that long. How about Saturday evening?

[bgsufalcon24]

And we had Miami beat the next week, but Ellis shanked a chip shot field goal attempt and we lost. ... If our kicker had had ever stepped in a puddle of mud before in his life before that game, we would have won.

Brandon paying you to say that? Quit blaming the kicker. He is out there for one play. Given the conditions, the rest of the team should have been working that much harder to keep from having to put the kicker in that siutation. If you recall, the play calling sucked at the end of the game as well.

The play calling sucked? We put the ball right in between the hash marks inside the 10 yard line. Sure a touchdown would have been nice, but the odds were very much against it. With the conditions being such as they were, there was no risk to attempt a pass or pitch run play to the outside and risk turning it over. In essence we did exactly what we should have, set up the ball in the middle for a chip shot field goal for the win. It's not the coaches fault that Ellis couldn't make a 25-yard field goal. I don't care if the game was played in a hurricane, a D-I kicker should be able to make a 25-yard chip shot. It's not like we didn't block on the kick like we had so many times earlier in the year, he just flat out shanked it.

This idea that we had to go for the touchdown or else is stupid and it proves only that hindsight is 20/20. The odds of a made field goal in that situation were far greater than getting a touchdown.

On another note, PGY, where'd you get that quote of Sheehan saying they quit last year?

[BGSUFootballFan]

We defintely gave up last year. I would give anything to avoid that sort of thing again this year!

[PGY Tiercel]

The play calling sucked? We put the ball right in between the hash marks inside the 10 yard line. Sure a touchdown would have been nice, but the odds were very much against it. With the conditions being such as they were, there was no risk to attempt a pass or pitch run play to the outside and risk turning it over. In essence we did exactly what we should have, set up the ball in the middle for a chip shot field goal for the win. It's not the coaches fault that Ellis couldn't make a 25-yard field goal. I don't care if the game was played in a hurricane, a D-I kicker should be able to make a 25-yard chip shot. It's not like we didn't block on the kick like we had so many times earlier in the year, he just flat out shanked it.

This idea that we had to go for the touchdown or else is stupid and it proves only that hindsight is 20/20. The odds of a made field goal in that situation were far greater than getting a touchdown.

On another note, PGY, where'd you get that quote of Sheehan saying they quit last year?

The Toledo Blade

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Every time I read that quote, I get a little more freaked out/angry. I can't believe he would say that, even if it is true. Not cool.

Then again, attitude reflects leadership. So maybe I shouldn't be surprised at all.

[Warthog]

And we had Miami beat the next week, but Ellis shanked a chip shot field goal attempt and we lost. ... If our kicker had had ever stepped in a puddle of mud before in his life before that game, we would have won.

Brandon paying you to say that? Quit blaming the kicker. He is out there for one play. Given the conditions, the rest of the team should have been working that much harder to keep from having to put the kicker in that siutation. If you recall, the play calling sucked at the end of the game as well.

The play calling sucked? We put the ball right in between the hash marks inside the 10 yard line. Sure a touchdown would have been nice, but the odds were very much against it. With the conditions being such as they were, there was no risk to attempt a pass or pitch run play to the outside and risk turning it over. In essence we did exactly what we should have, set up the ball in the middle for a chip shot field goal for the win. It's not the coaches fault that Ellis couldn't make a 25-yard field goal. I don't care if the game was played in a hurricane, a D-I kicker should be able to make a 25-yard chip shot. It's not like we didn't block on the kick like we had so many times earlier in the year, he just flat out shanked it.

This idea that we had to go for the touchdown or else is stupid and it proves only that hindsight is 20/20. The odds of a made field goal in that situation were far greater than getting a touchdown.

Guess you watched a different game then me. The ball certainly was not in the middle of the field. In fact, it was on the far messier side of the field.

And we threw the ball on second and third down with plenty of time and timeouts. We should have just ran it right down their throats and take the FG if we don't score. But we threw twice under high risk conditions. So yes, the play calling sucked.

[BGSUFootballFan]

And we had Miami beat the next week, but Ellis shanked a chip shot field goal attempt and we lost. ... If our kicker had had ever stepped in a puddle of mud before in his life before that game, we would have won.

Brandon paying you to say that? Quit blaming the kicker. He is out there for one play. Given the conditions, the rest of the team should have been working that much harder to keep from having to put the kicker in that siutation. If you recall, the play calling sucked at the end of the game as well.

The play calling sucked? We put the ball right in between the hash marks inside the 10 yard line. Sure a touchdown would have been nice, but the odds were very much against it. With the conditions being such as they were, there was no risk to attempt a pass or pitch run play to the outside and risk turning it over. In essence we did exactly what we should have, set up the ball in the middle for a chip shot field goal for the win. It's not the coaches fault that Ellis couldn't make a 25-yard field goal. I don't care if the game was played in a hurricane, a D-I kicker should be able to make a 25-yard chip shot. It's not like we didn't block on the kick like we had so many times earlier in the year, he just flat out shanked it.

This idea that we had to go for the touchdown or else is stupid and it proves only that hindsight is 20/20. The odds of a made field goal in that situation were far greater than getting a touchdown.

Guess you watched a different game then me. The ball certainly was not in the middle of the field. In fact, it was on the far messier side of the field.

And we threw the ball on second and third down with plenty of time and timeouts. We should have just ran it right down their throats and take the FG if we don't score. But we threw twice under high risk conditions. So yes, the play calling sucked.

I saw the game that Warthog saw. The ball was on the sloppy side of the field. We had the ball 1st and goal on the 8, with 1min 30seconds and a timeout and played for a FG. Sad.

[hammb]

In the game I saw the sideline reporter talked to the kicker and asked where he'd prefer to kick from, and he was told the OPPOSITE hash from where he ended up having to kick.

Personally, I don't ever fault a kicker for missing a FG in that condition. To get the ball 1st & goal and play for a FG in that situation is right up there in the not top 10 of decisions coach Brandon has had in his time here.