Maybe it's Glaud Time....

Falconboy · Post by **Falconboy** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:18 pm

I've been thinking about this and if TS's shoulder is still not right from WKU , it hurts nothing to give the reigns to Glaud for this season. The way TS has been throwing the ball , we honestly can't do any worse with Glaud , besides he gives us a serious running threat from the Qb position. I honestly think Glaud should get more time with the 1st team in practice and see what he can do.

Falcon137 · Post by **Falcon137** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:18 pm

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:43 pm

I've wanted Glaud from day 1. I still think he's the best long-term QB we have on the roster. I'd like to have him ready for the new coach to work with in 09.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:52 pm

I've wanted him for long time just because of the mix of plays we call when he's in the game. I wrote a big post on here about month ago and got laughed at. Our offense runs a different scheme when AG is in the game, and that scheme is the most difficult one for defenses to defend against.

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:59 am

BGSUFootballFan wrote:I've wanted him for long time just because of the mix of plays we call when he's in the game. I wrote a big post on here about month ago and got laughed at. Our offense runs a different scheme when AG is in the game, and that scheme is the most difficult one for defenses to defend against.

Two words, Josh Harris.

Harris took over the reins with three games left in the 2001 season and never looked back. Could we see the same thing with AG??? If you remember in that season relative newcomer Andy Sahm won the opening game at Missouri. If Tyler has another tough game we shall see. Although in fairness, I don't think the receivers ran very good routes for Tyler on Saturday.

footballguy51 · Post by **footballguy51** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:56 am

It was the routes along with the dropped passes. He was getting the passes to them, they were just not getting the job done. That, along with the fact that we gave away every opportunity possible along the way, is what beat us. TS is the QB, and I think he presents the best option for the team in that position. Putting AG in there is just asking to see the long ball overthrown by 10 yards everytime.

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:06 am

I was hot for the G-Spot before he ever even practiced here! He came from a school that ran the spread for cripes sake. then when he got here he was better at everything than Turner, but the Greg BLINDED went with AT who was just visably subpar at everything but running the ball.
I have to disagree folks with qb switch, I think the largest problems this team faces moving forward are
1. Predictability on O and a thin playbook

2. Poor defensive scheems and the thin playbook

our players have shown us what they can get it done, its the coaching that is failing them and us.
now its likely a bit late, for us..in that we had a great rid going, we were getting lots of press people were catching the BG fever and now were out of the light...in fact I would say the MAc is out of the light totally esp you hear the media wave talking about how any team that comes out of the WAC deserves an automatic BCS bid
time to rebuild and make another run for sustainable noteritity because in the end tht is all there if we are to get on top...you need media and you need to win to get it, you need to win for years...we were about 1/2 way there putting up big points and big Passing numbers, big rushing numbers and just being exciting. we are not any more, because we clearly lost the coaching combination that made us exciting and when those players who were treated to it left..our magic left as well.

Falcon137 · Post by **Falcon137** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:05 am

footballguy51 wrote:It was the routes along with the dropped passes. He was getting the passes to them, they were just not getting the job done. That, along with the fact that we gave away every opportunity possible along the way, is what beat us. TS is the QB, and I think he presents the best option for the team in that position. Putting AG in there is just asking to see the long ball overthrown by 10 yards everytime.

Perhaps you missed the underthrow to Partridge by 15 yards on a post and then the ball 10 yards behind him on the seem route. Both of those could have been TD's, Sheehan has not looked down right bad the last 4 gams.

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:41 am

Falcon137 wrote:
footballguy51 wrote:It was the routes along with the dropped passes. He was getting the passes to them, they were just not getting the job done. That, along with the fact that we gave away every opportunity possible along the way, is what beat us. TS is the QB, and I think he presents the best option for the team in that position. Putting AG in there is just asking to see the long ball overthrown by 10 yards everytime.
Perhaps you missed the underthrow to Partridge by 15 yards on a post and then the ball 10 yards behind him on the seem route. Both of those could have been TD's, Sheehan has not looked down right bad the last 4 gams.

Since several have already jumped in on this, I was VERY concerned when I listened to the postgame interview with GB...he admitted that Tyler's shoulder was messed up in the W.Ky. game and that "he'd had it shot up" or words to that effect prior to at least two of the next games.... It seems senseless to put a young QB who'd been doing well in harm's way...more so, to "deaden" pain with shots and hope that you'll get the same performance level out of him. Injuries ARE a part of the game...we all know that...but a QB in particular must be as healthy as possible if he...and the team are to succeed. If TS's shoulder is THAT bad, he shouldn't be playing on a full time basis...if that means AG, so be it...I'm truly concerned about playing ANY player who's got an injury that will affect performance..and a shoulder for a QB is about as critical as it gets.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:22 pm

Class of 61 wrote: Since several have already jumped in on this, I was VERY concerned when I listened to the postgame interview with GB...he admitted that Tyler's shoulder was messed up in the W.Ky. game and that "he'd had it shot up" or words to that effect prior to at least two of the next games.... It seems senseless to put a young QB who'd been doing well in harm's way...more so, to "deaden" pain with shots and hope that you'll get the same performance level out of him.

Wow, Den. Very disturbing to hear that. I appreciate that Tyler is clearly a gamer who wants to do whatever it takes to help his team win. That being said, I don't want to see him suffer a long-term injury.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:51 pm

1987alum wrote:
Class of 61 wrote: Since several have already jumped in on this, I was VERY concerned when I listened to the postgame interview with GB...he admitted that Tyler's shoulder was messed up in the W.Ky. game and that "he'd had it shot up" or words to that effect prior to at least two of the next games.... It seems senseless to put a young QB who'd been doing well in harm's way...more so, to "deaden" pain with shots and hope that you'll get the same performance level out of him.
Wow, Den. Very disturbing to hear that. I appreciate that Tyler is clearly a gamer who wants to do whatever it takes to help his team win. That being said, I don't want to see him suffer a long-term injury.

No kidding, 87. I heard the same thing after the game. If Tyler isn't 100%, I'd rather he rest and heal and let AG get some PT. Glaud is a dynamic player and would do well. TS is too important to the team to be taking chances with an injury...especially a shoulder.

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:39 pm

When this current offensive scheme was at it's zenith a few years back we were the best when we were averaging close to 200 yards passing AND rushing BOTH each game.

That can only be done effectively with a good running QB. While Tyler can scramble somewhat, he is not that type of player for this offense like Harris was.

AG is the closest thing we have to J5.

MY 1000'th POST!!!!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:22 pm

The guy who best fits the system is probably Nate Brown (he's huge, mobile and he has a good or better arm than AG) but I can't see taking the RS off of him. We had Tyler run the option ONCE on saturday. He gained 13 yards on that play. I tend to think we could hit that play with more frequency with Glaud in there.

So far as the shots go.. giving cortisone shots to bring down joint inflammation isn't a new practice...it isn't really that dangerous either. You're not trying to mask pain or hide an injury...you're just trying to reduce the effects a bit and get some mobility back into the joint. It's not like they're shooting him up to hide the pain of an onging injury...that's an evil practice that I have a hard time imaging a credible physician or trainer allowing.

*****on edit*****

Sheehan's injury is to his non throwing shoulder...correct?

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:05 pm

Flipper wrote:We had Tyler run the option ONCE on saturday. He gained 13 yards on that play.

I seem to remember seeing another play where TS lost about 3 yards on an option attempt????

Falconboy · Post by **Falconboy** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:44 pm

Flipper wrote:
*****on edit*****

Sheehan's injury is to his non throwing shoulder...correct?

No, its his throwing shoulder. I clearly remember TS running quickly to the locker room with a trainer at that WKU with his right shoulder dangling to his side. Its clearly his throwing arm.