Pitt likely picked him thinking they could trade him off later...
i think the nail in his coffin was missing NFl Europe with injury this year...
Omar
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eRichFalcon
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cowboyjoe wrote:He just got drafted by a team that needed no help at QB (Pittsburgh). Rediculous pick by the Steelers...pick a QB that is almost the same age as your starter when you know Roth would be there for years to come.
It was not a dumb pick by the Steelers. They got him in the later rounds. We all know that there is not a lot of quality backups. NFL quarterbacks get hurt a lot. If he was available in the 6th round why not. The Steelers gave him every opportunity to be the 3rd quaterback. By his play, the Steelers initially just kept two.
Unfortunately, Omar looked lost in the preseason. He really never appeared to grasp the playbook.
He is still young, hopefully he gets another chance.
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I do have to wonder if part of Omar's problem -- as well as that of Josh Harris -- is that some NFL coaches simply don't want to spend the time schooling a QB who came out of the spread in some of the basics. I can't help but believe that the two Falcon QB's are any less gifted than some of the No. 2 and 3's like Craig Nall, J.T. O'Sullivan and the like. But those guys did come out of programs that ran a more typical NFL-style offense. When a franchise spends a No. 1 pick on a spread-type QB -- say Alex Smith -- they'll put in the time. When it's a 4th-round pick or lower, they don't seem to have as much invested.
As for the ancient Vinny -- who I still remember as the fresh-faced cut color-blind pup -- he seems to have a tough time playing two games in a row. That happens to people when their kids are as old as they were when they made it into the league.
When I was in high school, our coach, who had been a fairly decent small-college QB, would occassionally step in and take a few snaps with the scout team against the No. 1 defense. He had fun and wasn't bad -- then one day, he actually threw his back out -- on a head bob while he was trying to draw us off with a hard count. That ended his scout team play.
I digress. I'm like a lot of others. I'd really like to see Omar -- and Josh for that matter -- get a shot in Canada.
As for the ancient Vinny -- who I still remember as the fresh-faced cut color-blind pup -- he seems to have a tough time playing two games in a row. That happens to people when their kids are as old as they were when they made it into the league.
When I was in high school, our coach, who had been a fairly decent small-college QB, would occassionally step in and take a few snaps with the scout team against the No. 1 defense. He had fun and wasn't bad -- then one day, he actually threw his back out -- on a head bob while he was trying to draw us off with a hard count. That ended his scout team play.
I digress. I'm like a lot of others. I'd really like to see Omar -- and Josh for that matter -- get a shot in Canada.
"No, it's NOT in Kentucky!"
An extra year in college may have helped Omar's draft stock a little, but of that I'm not convinced. Every NFL team knew he had all the physical tools in the world. He was thought of as a first day pick when he declared. However, when teams talked to him and got to know the "mental" part of his game he plummeted in the draft. He then displayed that in training camp/preseason. Omar, for all his physical tools, did not have the mental capacity for the game. That's not a dig on him, it takes a very quick & intelligent person to grasp an NFL offense and execute it. NFL QBs are expected to know where they're going with the ball as they hit the last step of their drop. Omar never even had to drop in college; that's a pretty major difference, even if you do understand the monstrously large playbook.
As for comparing him to Josh they were completely different players that failed for completely different reasons. Josh's fate was likely sealed the day that he shrunk 3 inches from his BG program to the combine measurement. He would've been among the shortest QBs in the NFL. Combine that with his erratic passing (and he was erratic, even at his best in BG), and it was something his moxy and leadership just couldn't overcome at the pro level. I saw him as a 2nd year pro in Cleveland and he just was not a consistent enough passer to stick as a pro.
Essentially these guys were polar opposites, aside from coming from the same collegiate system. I think if you took Omar's size & throwing arm and combined it with Josh's head for the game that player would still be in the NFL today.
Unfortunately they both had fatal flaws, but it has nothing to do with not being given a fair shot. Pittsburgh cut Omar after seeing him for an entire training camp and preseason. They also used a draft pick on him. If they thought he'd EVER develop into an NFL starter they would not have released him Big Ben notwithstanding. There is a reason why he's never stuck anywhere else as well. Same goes for Harris who had multiple chances with different teams. This is no slight on these guys. They were both fantastic players for BG. There is no shame in not making it on the pro level, very few players do. They both had opportunities and just couldn't cut it, don't let that change our opinions on them as collegiate athletes.
As for comparing him to Josh they were completely different players that failed for completely different reasons. Josh's fate was likely sealed the day that he shrunk 3 inches from his BG program to the combine measurement. He would've been among the shortest QBs in the NFL. Combine that with his erratic passing (and he was erratic, even at his best in BG), and it was something his moxy and leadership just couldn't overcome at the pro level. I saw him as a 2nd year pro in Cleveland and he just was not a consistent enough passer to stick as a pro.
Essentially these guys were polar opposites, aside from coming from the same collegiate system. I think if you took Omar's size & throwing arm and combined it with Josh's head for the game that player would still be in the NFL today.
Unfortunately they both had fatal flaws, but it has nothing to do with not being given a fair shot. Pittsburgh cut Omar after seeing him for an entire training camp and preseason. They also used a draft pick on him. If they thought he'd EVER develop into an NFL starter they would not have released him Big Ben notwithstanding. There is a reason why he's never stuck anywhere else as well. Same goes for Harris who had multiple chances with different teams. This is no slight on these guys. They were both fantastic players for BG. There is no shame in not making it on the pro level, very few players do. They both had opportunities and just couldn't cut it, don't let that change our opinions on them as collegiate athletes.
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Unfortunately they both had fatal flaws, but it has nothing to do with not being given a fair shot. Pittsburgh cut Omar after seeing him for an entire training camp and preseason. They also used a draft pick on him. If they thought he'd EVER develop into an NFL starter they would not have released him Big Ben notwithstanding. There is a reason why he's never stuck anywhere else as well. Same goes for Harris who had multiple chances with different teams. This is no slight on these guys. They were both fantastic players for BG. There is no shame in not making it on the pro level, very few players do. They both had opportunities and just couldn't cut it, don't let that change our opinions on them as collegiate athletes.[/quote]
Do not forget that at the start of that season...one Omar was reportedly not understanding the offense and Ben was having issues coming back and they needed more stability in the 3rd QB than what Omar was offering and compound that with the fact that Pitt was having personnel issues in other key areas as well and a project QB has to go.
Do not forget that at the start of that season...one Omar was reportedly not understanding the offense and Ben was having issues coming back and they needed more stability in the 3rd QB than what Omar was offering and compound that with the fact that Pitt was having personnel issues in other key areas as well and a project QB has to go.
