New arena???

[always a falcon]

There is no question that our university's first mission is first rate education. I am sure our university leadership- academic/athletic/student affairs/development- will be working together. For that matter, they ARE working together in my opinion.

Go Falcons!

I agree , that should be the case. But isn't good if academic dept. is looking down at athletics either. I honestly don't know how much dough the academic side of things need to operate efficiently but it can't be anywhere near as much as it takes to keep athletic programs heads above water. Yeah, academia comes first but as long as its not jealously hording university money just for the sake of hording money cuz they don't like athletics. Athletics can be just as an important life learning tool as any class they can take. Just my take , bash me if want.

If any state university had enough money to hoard, that would be a miracle!
Athletic teams can teach many life lessons..I won't ever argue with that. But blaming someone for hiding money because we don't have a new arena yet, or blaming a new hire for wanting to examine what is there and what is needed, isn't really productive. I don't want to bash you. I just want you to try to think a little more about what you are saying. You are saying that the athletic budget is bigger than what is needed to run the ENTIRE University? And it SHOULD be? Have to disagree.

Do I want to see new and renewed facilities for our athletes and students to keep us on par or above the rest of our peers? You betcha! It is all a balancing act, and I for one, am anxious to see what is to come!

[FalconTurf]

There is no question that our university's first mission is first rate education. I am sure our university leadership- academic/athletic/student affairs/development- will be working together. For that matter, they ARE working together in my opinion.

Go Falcons!

I agree , that should be the case. But isn't good if academic dept. is looking down at athletics either. I honestly don't know how much dough the academic side of things need to operate efficiently but it can't be anywhere near as much as it takes to keep athletic programs heads above water. Yeah, academia comes first but as long as its not jealously hording university money just for the sake of hording money cuz they don't like athletics. Athletics can be just as an important life learning tool as any class they can take. Just my take , bash me if want.

If any state university had enough money to hoard, that would be a miracle!
Athletic teams can teach many life lessons..I won't ever argue with that. But blaming someone for hiding money because we don't have a new arena yet, or blaming a new hire for wanting to examine what is there and what is needed, isn't really productive. I don't want to bash you. I just want you to try to think a little more about what you are saying. You are saying that the athletic budget is bigger than what is needed to run the ENTIRE University? And it SHOULD be? Have to disagree.

Do I want to see new and renewed facilities for our athletes and students to keep us on par or above the rest of our peers? You betcha! It is all a balancing act, and I for one, am anxious to see what is to come!

OK I can't help myself either I must respond to this. The athletes on campus who learn life experiences in their sport represent a small percent of the campus. Just like the Student Union, Rec Center and all the campus activities athletics are simply an important part of the total campus environment. They cannot dominate the scene but I'm sure the academic side recognizes that the athletic programs must be competitive to remain an important part of the atmosphere.

As far as the battle between athletics and academics goes there will always be some outspoken members of the academic community weighing in against athletic expenses. Most all of us recognize that resources are limited. At the same time I have seen several instructors/professors at games and even in the Falcon Club reception area. I believe most of the academic side supports athletics with limitations obviously. They must look out for their programs and their own pay first. A Taj Mahal will not be supported but facilities that are used to recruit students to campus without doubt will recieve support.

At the same time I suspect funding will come from donors that will not necessarily be as passionate or generous about funding academic buildings. Many probably feel those programs should be supported by the state and tuition as I do. Any athletic facilities built should be useful for all students through various academic programs with the most obvious being Sport Mgmt. Give the academic side some credit, they know this facility will be at the very least helpful in marketing the university.

[transfer2BGSU]

I honestly don't know how much dough the academic side of things need to operate efficiently...

And that is where you should have stopped

...but it can't be anywhere near as much as it takes to keep athletic programs heads above water.

But you had to continue.

BGSU is an educational institution with over 200 majors and programs available to its students. In addition, to the various academic majors, there are over 300 clubs and organizations on the campus in addition to 17 intercollegiate athletic teams. We also have approximately 7,000 students that reside on-campus in 16 residence halls and a large number of living and learning residential communities.

Athletics is just a part of the university. For many of our students, it is a very small part (sad to say but I believe that is true and many will probably not debate me on that).

A student may never step into Anderson Arena, yet they will need to access the library at some point during their academic career.

A student may never set foot in Doyt Perry Stadium, yet they will access their BGNet account to retrieve e-mail and important information from many university offices.

A student may never see Stephanie Swiger and her teammates perform so brilliantly at a volleyball match, but they will use the Internet on campus.

A student may never see a gymnastics meet in Eppler Center, but will set foot in the Bowen-Thompson Student Union (approximately 20,000 people walk through the doors of the BTSU daily).

A student may never see a soccer match at Cochran Field, yet they will set foot in a number of buildings on campus to attend a class.

A student may never attend a cross country or track meet, yet they will walk on sidewalks in the winter time that the University Maintenance staff will have to clear for them to attend class.

A student may never see our beloved womens' basketball team play a game, yet 7,000 students reside in 16 residence halls.

So Falconboy, it takes a lot more than just the $15 million+ funding the athletic department receives to fund Bowling Green State University. Greg Christopher was hired with a mission and he has been out hitting the bushes and working for every $$$ that is donated to the Athletic Department. There will be more athletic construction projects that take place at BGSU. BUt they may not be in the time frame that a lot of us would like to see.

[Falconboy]

I honestly don't know how much dough the academic side of things need to operate efficiently...

And that is where you should have stopped

...but it can't be anywhere near as much as it takes to keep athletic programs heads above water.

But you had to continue.

BGSU is an educational institution with over 200 majors and programs available to its students. In addition, to the various academic majors, there are over 300 clubs and organizations on the campus in addition to 17 intercollegiate athletic teams. We also have approximately 7,000 students that reside on-campus in 16 residence halls and a large number of living and learning residential communities.

Athletics is just a part of the university. For many of our students, it is a very small part (sad to say but I believe that is true and many will probably not debate me on that).

A student may never step into Anderson Arena, yet they will need to access the library at some point during their academic career.

A student may never set foot in Doyt Perry Stadium, yet they will access their BGNet account to retrieve e-mail and important information from many university offices.

A student may never see Stephanie Swiger and her teammates perform so brilliantly at a volleyball match, but they will use the Internet on campus.

A student may never see a gymnastics meet in Eppler Center, but will set foot in the Bowen-Thompson Student Union (approximately 20,000 people walk through the doors of the BTSU daily).

A student may never see a soccer match at Cochran Field, yet they will set foot in a number of buildings on campus to attend a class.

A student may never attend a cross country or track meet, yet they will walk on sidewalks in the winter time that the University Maintenance staff will have to clear for them to attend class.

A student may never see our beloved womens' basketball team play a game, yet 7,000 students reside in 16 residence halls.

So Falconboy, it takes a lot more than just the $15 million+ funding the athletic department receives to fund Bowling Green State University. Greg Christopher was hired with a mission and he has been out hitting the bushes and working for every $$$ that is donated to the Athletic Department. There will be more athletic construction projects that take place at BGSU. BUt they may not be in the time frame that a lot of us would like to see.

Then based on your answer I would assume that any major money allocated to athletics is gonna have to come from donors plain and simple. That is something that GC is trying to address and appears to be doing a better job of it than his predecessor. Whatever $$$ academics programs need is beside my point really, I would just find it disconcerting for the academic side of the university to be discouraging of athletic advancement as all, if that is indeed what is happening.

[transfer2BGSU]

Then based on your answer I would assume that any major money allocated to athletics is gonna have to come from donors plain and simple. That is something that GC is trying to address and appears to be doing a better job of it than his predecessor.

Paul Krebs was hired at a different time and with a different focus. His focus was to erase the $4million+ debt the department was in. Krebs left the department in a better financial situation that allowed us to go out and get someone who could concentrate on bringing in the funding needed to allow over 450 student-athletes to have the facilities needed to be competitive.

[Falconboy]

Then based on your answer I would assume that any major money allocated to athletics is gonna have to come from donors plain and simple. That is something that GC is trying to address and appears to be doing a better job of it than his predecessor.

Paul Krebs was hired at a different time and with a different focus. His focus was to erase the $4million+ debt the department was in. Krebs left the department in a better financial situation that allowed us to go out and get someone who could concentrate on bringing in the funding needed to allow over 450 student-athletes to have the facilities needed to be competitive.

Excellent point. Lets just resign the fact that that we're just not going to see a new basketball facility for a good long while. We just built a very nice football facility in the Doyt and put in million dollar Field Turf. Not sure how much we can ask of our limited donor base to dole out again for a new convo.

[FalconTurf]

Then based on your answer I would assume that any major money allocated to athletics is gonna have to come from donors plain and simple. That is something that GC is trying to address and appears to be doing a better job of it than his predecessor.

Paul Krebs was hired at a different time and with a different focus. His focus was to erase the $4million+ debt the department was in. Krebs left the department in a better financial situation that allowed us to go out and get someone who could concentrate on bringing in the funding needed to allow over 450 student-athletes to have the facilities needed to be competitive.

Excellent point. Lets just resign the fact that that we're just not going to see a new basketball facility for a good long while. We just built a very nice football facility in the Doyt and put in million dollar Field Turf. Not sure how much we can ask of our limited donor base to dole out again for a new convo.

I think, and hope, we have donors that will step up for a signature project in their area of interest. They are not going to buy a new scoreboard for an old arena, new turf for their second favorite program or just throw huge money at the athletic department for daily operations. The money is out there but is the timing right and will it cover the needs? I'm betting on corporate sponsoring and multiple individuals. Think positive.

[Flipper]

Think positive.

You must be new here....

[FalconTurf]

Think positive.

You must be new here....

I'm just trying to help.........although this may be a lost cause.

[Schadenfreude]

[quote="Lets just resign the fact that that we're just not going to see a new basketball facility for a good long while.

Drink an extra Stroh's at today's tailgate. It will make it feel better.

[orangeandbrown]

Do they still make Stroh's?

[Schadenfreude]

Do they still make Stroh's?

Yes. Just not well.

[Flipper]

I hear they'll be ramping up production on a new item soon...

[transfer2BGSU]

Lets just resign the fact that that we're just not going to see a new basketball facility for a good long while.

Falconboy,

STOP

Read. Re-read.

Comprehend.