And now, we wait to see if a bowl comes a calling

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:32 pm

always a falcon wrote:
VDub26Falcon wrote:Just remember, the GMAC gets first pick of MAC bowl eligible teams. I could see them taking CMU. Then, BG would definitely go to the Motor City Bowl and Miami will need to get their hands on some passports to head to Toronto. That is my prediction and I stand by it.
The Motor City Bowl would LOVE to have Central Michigan. Would boost their attendance greatly. What about vs. Sparty?

I will go anywhere!

A few of us talked about the bowl possibilities...I think it would be very UNLIKELY that the MCB would want a "rematch" of BG vs. MSU... the CMU draw would seem very logical and they should FILL Ford Field between the Mich. schools....but I'm not knocking any place...BG has certainly earned and deserved a shot at a good bowl placement...I wouldn't mind going back to Mobile, but Toronto is a fascinating city...and playing indoors shouldn't be too hard to take either.

doogkid · Post by **doogkid** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:57 pm

How bout the Vegas or Texas bowls....i say screw the GMAC..lets go somewhere new...only if we cant get to the International or MCB..

BGSUVA · Post by **BGSUVA** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:07 am

I'd love to go to Vegas...hope Christoper is talking with them.

GoFalcons118 · Post by **GoFalcons118** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:12 am

BGSUVA wrote:I'd love to go to Vegas...hope Christoper is talking with them.

the las vegas bowl will have two eligible teams. the contract matchup is PAC-10 #5 vs. MWC #1. no matter what Cal or any other PAC-10 team does tomorrow, they will finish no worse than 6-6 and the fifth bowl eligible team from the conference.

falconfan1 · Post by **falconfan1** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:13 am

The three MAC bowls work together and if one of those three games want BG they will take us- sooner not later. We will accept energetically, go there to win and get in the Top 25. The extra practice for the bowl will be a big advantage for next year's team also.

There will not likely be any other bowl oppoortunity. As of tonight, BG is one of the three most attractive MAC teams. We will remain so tomorrow no matter the game outcomes in my opinion. I look for one of the MAC bowls to pick us and I believe (as posted above) that the GMAC is most likely.

I had a blast at the last GMAC. Despite a little rain.

Go Falcons!

BourbonFalcon · Post by **BourbonFalcon** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:34 am

What is this about the top 25??

GoFalcons118 · Post by **GoFalcons118** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:38 am

30.9.2.1 Exception -- 12 Game Season

An institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be selected for participation in a bowl game under the following circumstances: (Adopted: 4/27/06 effective 8/1/06)

(a) The institution or its conference has a primary contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game. There shall be no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests; or

(b) All contractual affiliations per Bylaw 30.9.2.1-(a) have been fulfilled and all institutions with winning records have received bowl invitations (either through a contractual affiliation or as an at-large selection).

Basically, since we finished with a winning record, we are guaranteed not to be passed over in an at large bid by some big time team like Miami (FL), etc.

Also, Ball State is in a must win situation tomorrow (they probably will anyways), as a 6-6 record would not get them into a bowl unless Miami (OH) lost both remaining games. At 7-5, they put themselves into good position to possibly get a fourth bid for the MAC if everything goes right.

GoFalcons118 · Post by **GoFalcons118** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:51 am

doogkid wrote:How bout the Vegas or Texas bowls....i say screw the GMAC..lets go somewhere new...only if we cant get to the International or MCB..

The Papa John's Bowl could be looking for an at-large. Right now, assuming West Virginia plays for the BCS Championship, that leaves the Big East with four other six win teams with five bowl bids to fill. Louisville could take that with a win against Rutgers tomorrow or Pitt could with wins against South Florida and West Virginia to end the season.

BGFalconfromCincy · Post by **BGFalconfromCincy** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:59 am

GoFalcons118 wrote:
doogkid wrote:How bout the Vegas or Texas bowls....i say screw the GMAC..lets go somewhere new...only if we cant get to the International or MCB..
The Papa John's Bowl could be looking for an at-large. Right now, assuming West Virginia plays for the BCS Championship, that leaves the Big East with four other six win teams with five bowl bids to fill. Louisville could take that with a win against Rutgers tomorrow or Pitt could with wins against South Florida and West Virginia to end the season.

also doesn't that bowl have an agreement to take a MAC school if CUSA or the Big East can't send a team

GoFalcons118 · Post by **GoFalcons118** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:08 am

the MAC is somewhere in the Papa John's Bowl contract, but I'm not sure how.

http://www.football-bowl.com/bowls/papa-johns-bowl.html

The PapaJohns.com Bowl features a Conference USA (C-USA) representative against a member of either the Big East or the Mid-American Conference (MAC). Beginning with the 2006 season, the C-USA representative in the PapaJohns.com Bowl will face a member of the Big East, but in future years the Big East and MAC spot will alternate. Held in Birmingham, Alabama, the PapaJohns.com Bowl will begin in 2006 and is sponsored by as the PapaJohns.com.

and, http://www.papajohnsbowl.com/history/records.html

you may be right that if the Big East is unable to fulfill their contract, then they would look to the MAC for a representative.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:03 am

VDub26Falcon wrote:Just remember, the GMAC gets first pick of MAC bowl eligible teams. I could see them taking CMU. Then, BG would definitely go to the Motor City Bowl and Miami will need to get their hands on some passports to head to Toronto. That is my prediction and I stand by it.

I'd stand down from those picks.

The GMAC does have first pick, but they do have a good relationship with the other bowls. History suggests that if a team makes particularly good sense for one of the bowls, the other will stand by and help make it happen.

As you can see, the Motor City has almost always gotten a team closer to Detroit than the GMAC has:

2001: Toledo over Cincinnati (Motor City); Marshall over East Carolina (GMAC).
2002: Boston College over Toledo (Motor City); Marshall over Louisville (GMAC).
2003: Bowling Green over Northwestern (Motor City); Miami over Louisville (GMAC).
2004: Connecticut over Toledo (Motor City); Bowling Green over Memphis (GMAC).
2005: Memphis over Akron (Motor City); Toledo over Texas-El Paso (GMAC)
2006: Central Michigan over Middle Tennessee (Motor City); Southern Mississippi over Ohio (GMAC)

As you can see, 2005 was the only exception.

Anyway, when the Motor City Bowl was first founded, George Perles talked about Central Michigan-Michigan State being the ultimate match up for that game. It's close to possible right now, and I don't see anyway the Motor City lets Central Michigan get away.

And, considering that there are no truly stand out teams in the MAC this year, I don't think that's much skin off the GMAC's nose to let Central Michigan go. A team like Miami might travel slightly better, and it might look better on the marquee.

It seems that no invitations could be made Friday because the scouts still need to see what happens today. If Miami beats Ohio, the Redhawks would become bowl eligible, no matter what happens in the MAC title game. With a Miami win, I would expect all invitations to be passed out soon, maybe later today. It would be:

Central Michigan to Detroit
Miami to Mobile
Bowling Green to Toronto.

If Miami loses, then we all might have to wait a while longer. A Ball State win today could make the GMAC feel more secure that they'll have a team no matter what (Miami as MAC champion or Ball State as a backup). But the MAC might also be angling for a fourth bowl somewhere to put Ball State, and that might add some complexity.

I tend to think the International Bowl might very much like to have us. We have plenty of alumni in Northeast Ohio, and we are certainly more likely to make the drive in greater numbers than Ball State fans.

I think Toronto is where we end up.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:35 am

Schadenfreude wrote: Central Michigan to Detroit
Miami to Mobile
Bowling Green to Toronto.

Those were my picks as the clock counted down last night.

Excellent post as always, Schad.

SicSic80 · Post by **SicSic80** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:51 am

I agree w/Schad & RUIT, so much so that:

http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak

Not a bad deal for Mitch and I (and I can always modify this to 3, if RC can make it back.

) And as Freak mentioned last night after the game, everyone make sure they order their tickets through OUR ticket office. Let's keep Scott real busy!!!!

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:31 am

Ironically, I will be in BG playing in the alumni Aband for both bball games (and possibly the hockey game now).

It will be a full day.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:24 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote: Central Michigan to Detroit
Miami to Mobile
Bowling Green to Toronto.
Those were my picks as the clock counted down last night.

Excellent post as always, Schad.

I agree with this. Any bowl is great...Detroit and then Toronto would be most cost effective for all Freaks to go but if it's Mobile, well....we'll have to see.