CMU-Purdue rematch in MCB

[TG1996]

Interesting, I thought they were going to try to make this not happen?

[BGSUFootballFan]

I was telling everyone all week that CMU would play Purdue, but 87 Alum and others kept posting that they wouldn't let that happen because they already played! Well they did and Purdue is going to blow them out again!

[jpfalcon09]

I wouldn't say it'll be a blowout, but Purdue will definitely win. I think CMU's defense will at least be able to watch the film from their first meeting and learn a couple things. I was pretty sure myself Sparty would end up there just to bolster ticket sales.

[fulch]

msu in this game, because I thought the atmosphere would be amazing. should be a lot of points in this matchup though

[tiznow]

I don't think it will be a blowout either. Purdue is not the same team as when they played earlier. They had a bad second half of the season and their are a few off the field problems Purdue had to deal with.

[1987alum]

I was telling everyone all week that CMU would play Purdue, but 87 Alum and others kept posting that they wouldn't let that happen because they already played! Well they did and Purdue is going to blow them out again!

I'll admit that I was wrong and am now shocked. I still can't believe this happened. Bowls have traditionally treated rematches as the plague, yet it seems like the MCB walked right into this one. I hope they know what they're doing.

[tiznow]

I was telling everyone all week that CMU would play Purdue, but 87 Alum and others kept posting that they wouldn't let that happen because they already played! Well they did and Purdue is going to blow them out again!

I'll admit that I was wrong and am now shocked. I still can't believe this happened. Bowls have traditionally treated rematches as the plague, yet it seems like the MCB walked right into this one. I hope they know what they're doing.

I thought the same as you. Listening to a guy from Gold and Black Insider today, he stated that Purdue thought they would play BG in the MCB. They were under the impression as well that the MCB would avoid the rematch.

[BGSUFootballFan]

I was telling everyone all week that CMU would play Purdue, but 87 Alum and others kept posting that they wouldn't let that happen because they already played! Well they did and Purdue is going to blow them out again!

I'll admit that I was wrong and am now shocked. I still can't believe this happened. Bowls have traditionally treated rematches as the plague, yet it seems like the MCB walked right into this one. I hope they know what they're doing.

I thought the same as you. Listening to a guy from Gold and Black Insider today, he stated that Purdue thought they would play BG in the MCB. They were under the impression as well that the MCB would avoid the rematch.

As I've said before I am a Purdue student, and every bloodly thing in print that I saw both on campus and in West Lafayette predicted PU vs CMU as the most likely outcome.

Also I'm sticking to my guns in that Purdue will blow them out. I was at that game and it was 31-0 Purdue at one point in the 2nd quarter. If Purdue wouldn't have gotten conservative they could have scored 70. Also the starting RB broke his arm in the 1st Q of that game, so running the clock out didnt work out so well and CMU "prettied up" the score at the end. Even with that, Purdue still covered the spread. Another reason for my prediction is that CMU has been HORRIBLE in OOC games. See Clemson.

Also Purdue isn't having any off the field problems COMPARED to normal. People think it's a big deal that Lymon got kicked off the team. But that was his 5th DUI in less than 2 years. Also he was stabbed in the chest multiple times and spent all of spring ball in the hospital fighting for his life. He claims the woman just "randomly stabbed him" outside of a local night club here. The woman claimed, that he and some other football players forced their way into the womens restroom, took some women with them outside and attempted to rape them. Looking at the track records of Lymon and the woman there is no doubt in my mind which of the stories is true. But he got off scotch free because "he is the biggest recruit in the Tiller era."

Which brings me to coach Tiller. Yeah that whimp of a coach that made it into the final 8 for coach of the year this year. BARF! He sucks and he doesn't no or care how to discipline. Lymon's only punishment for his previous 4 DUI's, and that night club "accident" were sitting out 1 quarter vs. Eastern Illinois. Sometimes I laugh at what people outside of the Purdue program say about Joe Tiller. Well let me just end this with things aren't always what they appear to be!


My prediction PU 49 CMU 27

[tiznow]

Do you think Tiller should be fired?
I hear some Purdue fans that think Tiller should be fired.
Purdue football was a joke before Tiller got there. Purdue will never be a Michigan or Ohio State of the Big Ten. 8-4, 9-3 and the occasional 10-2 is what Purdue should expect.

[BGSUFootballFan]

Do you think Tiller should be fired?
I hear some Purdue fans that think Tiller should be fired.
Purdue football was a joke before Tiller got there. Purdue will never be a Michigan or Ohio State of the Big Ten. 8-4, 9-3 and the occasional 10-2 is what Purdue should expect.

I have a yes and no answer to that. Yes, I absolutely think Joe Tiller should be fired. However, it is my understanding that he is one of thee worst paid coaches in all of the BCS conf. schools. I also know that the current athletic department is not even close to willing to pay enough money to go out and get a good coach. With that thought in mind, I do not want him to get fired. The athletic department at PU runs what the media here likes to call "a dime store." They want to spend as little money as possible, but still try to do decent considering how little they are spending and that is what we have right now.

On to the football side of it, let me point out to you that PURDUE HAS NEVER WON 10 GAMES IN A SEASON EVER! That's including the Tiller Era, that's including the bowl game, that's including the cake OOC schedule. Ah which brings me to my next point. Have you taken a look at PU's OOC schedule? Sure Tiller is winning 7 games here every year which previous coaches could have done playing Tiller's schedule.

Here's Tiller's recipe every year.
OOC- 1AA Indiana State W
- MAC W
- MAC W
- Notre Dame W/L (ND is beatable since Tiller arrived)

Conf- NW W
- Minn W
- IU W
- Iowa,MSU, Ill W/L

- Wisc L
- Mich L
- OSU L
- PSU L

So basically if you are a Tiller fan the best you can hope fore is 8-4 not 10-2. But 6 of the wins are gimmies, so its not like you can really be disappointed either. That is unless you are like the national media that think PU will suck, but then get all excited after they start 4-0 OOC and think they will win the Big10 and make a nice bowl game. No. It's not going to happen and never will under Tiller.

PS- They will still cover the spread vs. CMU. I don't even know what it is, but they will cover it. Purdue is great at pouring it on against bad teams.

[1987alum]

Well, the real question is, could someone take Purdue further than Tiller? I think tiznow paints a realistic picture (that BGSUFootballFan completes nicely); Tiller has created a formula to make his program successful and rack up 8-4 records and bowl invites. Every so often, he might capture lightning in a bottle and score a big upset or two and post a shiny 10-2 record.

Could the program realistically do better? I don't know. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are just so friggin' big. Could Purdue ascend to that level consistently?

[TG1996]

On to the football side of it, let me point out to you that PURDUE HAS NEVER WON 10 GAMES IN A SEASON EVER!

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia ... totals.php

1979 begs to differ. And I'll give you two guesses where the head coach that year, Jim Young, went to college.

(BTW, I don't disagree with you much about the 4-0 excitement deal, I was just curious if PU had really never won 10 games... )

[tiznow]

When I said 10-2, I was stating that is the best you could expect from Purdue. That link that TG posted says it best. Purdue was a bottom dweller Big Ten program before Tiller got there. The previous 2 coaches were 12-31-1 and 21-42-3. Tiller has had 3 nine win season and 2 eight win seasons since he has been there. This is realistically the best Purdue can expect.

I do not like or dislike Purdue, but as an outsider, Tiller has done a good job. His recruiting pipeline to Texas has brought kids to Purdue that otherwise would have went elsewhere.

To the fans that want him fired, be careful what you wish for.

[Falconfreak90]

Purdue does not automatically beat MAC teams every year. Toledo has beaten them at least twice in the last 10 years and we all know what happened in W Lafayette in Sept 2003.

Tiller is a good coach in a near impossible situation.

[BGSUFootballFan]

87 Alum: Thanks for the props. Could someone take Purdue further than Tiller? YES, more easily than you might think. I'm not saying Purdue is a sleeping giant, but certainly Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn State have become a lot more beatable. Purdue has even had Ohio State on the ropes a few times only to choke late in the game. I think the main problem stems from a sucky pass defense. But also there is a huge lack of discipline and the offense has completely gone away from the QB run since the days of Drew Brees. Now they just get some guy with a overly strong arm and tell him to throw the ball as hard as he can 50 times a game. It's good for running up the score on bad teams, but terrible for ball control and beating good teams. Look at this season 7-5 and the only win over a "bowl" team is CMU. Think about that, Purdue is having a pretty good season in the eyes of most people outside of this area, yet their best win is over CMU. Bad.

TG: I was wrong. Nice find on that 10 win season. I spend a lot of time looking at the stuff on college football data warehouse. My memory from awhile back was that Purdue has never won 10 games in a season. Ok so they did it once. But it still wasn't by Tiller. With the amount of times he has started 4-0 or even 5-0 (like this year) he would only need to finish 5-3 or 5-4 like last year in order to get to 10 wins, but it just doesn't happen. Why? Because we really weren't that good to begin with, we were just running up the score on 1-AA and mid major opponents.

Tiz: My point about the 10 win season was no one here expects that. Everyone is almost to the point of depression if not lethargy knowing that we will be somewhere between 6-6 and 8-4 with not one win that we can brag about. Tiller is not a good recruiter. Drew Brees was a good recruit and he has done a nice job bringing along some defensive ends. Other than that he has never gotten good recruits. PU is constantly ranked in the bottom 3 in recruiting every year by magazines and rightfully so. As I mentioned before his biggest recruit ever was Lymon and he's FINALLY been kicked off the team in this his Soph year after wearing the pants in the relationship between him & Tiller his whole career. Also I don't want Tiller to get fired based on the philosophy Purdue has of not spending money on coaches. We will just end up like Minnesota and go from boring but decent, to exciting but terrible. What I want is a change in the attitude of the athletic department here first, then maybe they can go out and get a real football coach!