Ohio State and thoughts on BG

[anthony e]

I have been witnessing these e-mails for such a long time, but I never
responded. Therefore, this will be my time to constuct a few thoughts
on the dislike of Ohio State on this board. Before anyone accuses me of
being an OSU grad, please allow me to say I graduuated from BGSU and
am a huge fan of the football program. This means that when they play OSU I will always go for the Falcons. With thst being stated, I am also
a huge Buckeyes fan. I am proud they represent our state with the stature of their program. Maybe it is because of proxemics, because I grew
up in Northeastern Ohio. I hate to admit this, but Youngstown, Ohio.
Long before Jimmy T became the coach I was and still am a fan. Why
is it so hard for some Falcon fans to cheer on the Buckeyes? Yes, some
of their fans can be annoying. This can be said for any team. Because
of the proximity to Ann Arbor, maybe some of you like U of M. I despise
this team. It would be close to a BG fan liking Toledo. Jimmy T
is a great coach. Ohio State is going to give LSU a better game
than most expect. Look what he did at Youngstown State University.
Are there any Falcon fans who agree with some of my comments?

On another note, do any of you feel that there will ever be a time when
we sell out the Doyt for everygame? I say this because of the ticket sales
for the bowl game. To me, it seems that 19,000 for the Toledo game is not a success, but a failure. Will we ever draw like Boise State?

I love the Falcons. Go BG!

[rocketfootball]

On another note, do any of you feel that there will ever be a time when
we sell out the Doyt for everygame? I say this because of the ticket sales
for the bowl game. To me, it seems that 19,000 for the Toledo game is not a success, but a failure. Will we ever draw like Boise State?

I still can't figure out how BG does their attendance. I have been to the last two UT/BG games in Bowling Green. I thought there were low 20's at the game this year, and a couple of years ago I was stunned at the figure they gave. From the press box it sure looked like it was nearly a packed house, and the official attendance number was no where near a sellout. It just doesn't add up.

[The Niz]

On another note, do any of you feel that there will ever be a time when
we sell out the Doyt for everygame? I say this because of the ticket sales
for the bowl game. To me, it seems that 19,000 for the Toledo game is not a success, but a failure. Will we ever draw like Boise State?

I still can't figure out how BG does their attendance. I have been to the last two UT/BG games in Bowling Green. I thought there were low 20's at the game this year, and a couple of years ago I was stunned at the figure they gave. From the press box it sure looked like it was nearly a packed house, and the official attendance number was no where near a sellout. It just doesn't add up.

We hired UT grads to count the tickets

[always a falcon]

We will never draw like Boise State because they are the only thing going out there. And they are in the capital city.

They don't have OSU, UM, BGSU, UT, Findlay, ONU, Youngstown State, Kent, Crackron, etc all competing for dollars and attention.

Boise has no pro teams. They have beautiful countryside and a frickin smurf blue stadium. And they sell beer. I think. People couldn't have STAYED THAT drunk could they?

Why don't I like OSU, let me count the ways. I will give you my main reason from where I live. Disportionate attention and coverage. I live closer to BG than OSU, but our local sports section acts like we don't even exist. I think the Dispatch has more about our games! It is like if you don't like OSU, you just suck as an Ohioan. If something is crammed down your throat for so long and you don't care for it,..it gets sickening after a while. Oh yeah, we have a lot of BGSU grads in our area, so they might even INCREASE their sales if they covered us.

Well I am proud to be from Ohio and I am proud to be a Falcon, but don't ever try to get me to root for tOSU. And another thing- why do they wave the STATE flag at the games? They aren't the ONLY state university....what....oh- they don't care. Right, I forgot.

[bgsufalcon24]

On another note, do any of you feel that there will ever be a time when
we sell out the Doyt for everygame? I say this because of the ticket sales
for the bowl game. To me, it seems that 19,000 for the Toledo game is not a success, but a failure. Will we ever draw like Boise State?

I still can't figure out how BG does their attendance. I have been to the last two UT/BG games in Bowling Green. I thought there were low 20's at the game this year, and a couple of years ago I was stunned at the figure they gave. From the press box it sure looked like it was nearly a packed house, and the official attendance number was no where near a sellout. It just doesn't add up.

RF, the BG-UT game in 2005 was either a sellout, or damned close to it. There were not any open seats whatsoever with the exception of maybe the very upper corners of the east side. There were people everywhere, students, townies, fans of both schools (I remember UT sending a pretty good contingent that night, at least 2 sections on the east side). I figured about 23000 was the number. And then they gave an attendance figure of 17000something and I fell out of my chair. Clearly that was an incorrect count, and it got us into trouble because we finished like 7 fans under the 15000 average that year. (We had an attendance of about 6000 for the game against Akron if memory serves, that game sucked).

By comparison, I didn't think there were quite as many people at this year's game, maybe about 21000 was my guess. Looking back on it, I don't think we had more people for WKU than we did for Toledo, but that's what the numbers say. It seemed like our number was actually a bit inflated for the WKU game on homecoming.

[Schadenfreude]

On another note, do any of you feel that there will ever be a time when
we sell out the Doyt for everygame?

That's the dream.

If we keep winning, and continue to improve, good things will happen.

The Falcons averaged more than 22,000 people per game in 1994. That's close to the equivalent of selling out a season in today's smaller version of the Doyt.

So it can be done.

[hammb]

If we become a consistent 8+ win team with bowl games often, I don't think it's unreasonable to average 20k+ for seasons. Especially years that we have UT at home.

I think one of the reasons that it is difficult to estimate BG attendance is that they're pretty lax about sitting in your seats. I think a lot of people spread out more than the numbering on the seats would allow. That makes the stadium look a lot more full than it really is.

[98_BG_GRAD]

And another thing- why do they wave the STATE flag at the games? They aren't the ONLY state university....what....oh- they don't care. Right, I forgot.

I am not going to get into this discussion because it is not worth my time, but in response to this question, is there something stopping BG, UT, Miami, OU, Kent, Akron, YSU and UC from flying the Ohio flag at their games? OSU probably does it because they play in the state of Ohio and are a state institution. I think it is a great idea and I would love to see BG fly the Ohio flag at the Doyt. I am going to guess that the state of Ohio didn't go to OSU and say fly this flag while telling the other schools not to fly the flag.

[Warthog]

And another thing- why do they wave the STATE flag at the games? They aren't the ONLY state university....what....oh- they don't care. Right, I forgot.

I am not going to get into this discussion because it is not worth my time, but in response to this question, is there something stopping BG, UT, Miami, OU, Kent, Akron, YSU and UC from flying the Ohio flag at their games? OSU probably does it because they play in the state of Ohio and are a state institution. I think it is a great idea and I would love to see BG fly the Ohio flag at the Doyt. I am going to guess that the state of Ohio didn't go to OSU and say fly this flag while telling the other schools not to fly the flag.

Here is my take: The issue is that The Ohio State University somehow adopted the state flag of Ohio to represent the school. I mean any school can use any flag they want. We could use the stars and bars or skull and crossbones or some kind of unique flag that represents BGSU and only BGSU. The OSU has usurped the state flag for their own use just as any other state school could do. They should just make their own unique flag to represent The OSU instead of using one the represents some thing else already.

[h2oville rocket]

I am not going to get into this discussion because it is not worth my time,

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[Lord_Byron]

Why is it so hard for some Falcon fans to cheer on the Buckeyes?

I understand the civic pride many Ohioans feel for our state, and that this pride, rightly or wrongly, is transferred to Ohio State.

The problem I have with them is the emphasis on "THE" Ohio State University. There are many other state universities in Ohio, and I don't like the arrogance of this relatively recent marketing ploy.

[BGSUFootballFan]

Why is it so hard for some Falcon fans to cheer on the Buckeyes?

That's like asking the kid who gets beat up everyday & has his lunch money stolen, why he is not friends with the bully.

[98_BG_GRAD]

I am not going to get into this discussion because it is not worth my time,

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H2O, not worth my time because there is no point in discussing an issue that will get nowhere with most of the people on this board. Some people hate OSU and that is that. I grew up an OSU fan, still am an OSU fan, but they are a distant second to BG. I am not going to try and figure out why some people on this board are not fans of a particular team. I think the jealousy some people have of OSU is absurd, but that is their right and who am I to try and change it?

[98_BG_GRAD]

And another thing- why do they wave the STATE flag at the games? They aren't the ONLY state university....what....oh- they don't care. Right, I forgot.

I am not going to get into this discussion because it is not worth my time, but in response to this question, is there something stopping BG, UT, Miami, OU, Kent, Akron, YSU and UC from flying the Ohio flag at their games? OSU probably does it because they play in the state of Ohio and are a state institution. I think it is a great idea and I would love to see BG fly the Ohio flag at the Doyt. I am going to guess that the state of Ohio didn't go to OSU and say fly this flag while telling the other schools not to fly the flag.

Here is my take: The issue is that The Ohio State University somehow adopted the state flag of Ohio to represent the school. I mean any school can use any flag they want. We could use the stars and bars or skull and crossbones or some kind of unique flag that represents BGSU and only BGSU. The OSU has usurped the state flag for their own use just as any other state school could do. They should just make their own unique flag to represent The OSU instead of using one the represents some thing else already.

I say good for OSU to have "adopted" the state flag to represent them. Every state school in Ohio should "adopt" the state flag to represent them along with their own school's flag. We should all be proud to be Ohio state universities.

[Globetrotter]

Why is it so hard for some Falcon fans to cheer on the Buckeyes?

I understand the civic pride many Ohioans feel for our state, and that this pride, rightly or wrongly, is transferred to Ohio State.

The problem I have with them is the emphasis on "THE" Ohio State University. There are many other state universities in Ohio, and I don't like the arrogance of this relatively recent marketing ploy.

Why no civic pride for OHIO University.