basketball parking

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:06 pm

From what i remember the people taking money or directing traffic were usually just kids that seemed to be volunteers of some variety. If that was the case I hope it was just an unfortunate error.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:29 pm

Actually, anyone with a handicapped placard can park in Lot 14 at a home basketball game. There is a cost associated for individuals without Falcon Club parking privileges. This is not a violation of the ADA.

The Athletic Department is also allowing individuals to park in Lot N for a $10 fee if they do not have Falcon Club parking privileges.

Individuals that do not wish to pay the surcharge but wish to drop off an individual at Anderson Arena should contact the Athletic Department and see what arrangements can be worked out.

Tech83 · Post by **Tech83** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:38 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:Actually, anyone with a handicapped placard can park in Lot 14 at a home basketball game. There is a cost associated for individuals without Falcon Club parking privileges. This is not a violation of the ADA.

The Athletic Department is also allowing individuals to park in Lot N for a $10 fee if they do not have Falcon Club parking privileges.

Individuals that do not wish to pay the surcharge but wish to drop off an individual at Anderson Arena should contact the Athletic Department and see what arrangements can be worked out.

That sounds like they have a policy. They might need to publize it better.

Tech83 · Post by **Tech83** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:55 pm

Dayons_Den wrote:Thanks for the great insight on the topic Tech, it has been very informative and enlightening.

I have a question regarding "accessibility" and specifically referring to my place of work here.

The HC seating I mentioned is accessible to those in a wheelchair. Like I said, though, people have caught on that you can order these excellent seats and save money in doing so. My question would be regarding the law and accessibility is could we require folks to be with a person in a wheelchair to sit there? The seats are accessible, but if the HC is shortness of breath, weak legs etc. there are seats much closer to the walkways/entrances that would be more beneficial to those folks.

HoopsFan- easy there tiger. I am not bitching about losing the money per ticket. What happens is the HC areas fill up, often times with people who are not in a wheelchairs thus limiting the space and area for folks in a wheelchair that actually must sit in those areas.

Which brings me to another legal type accessibility question. We sell out from time to time and on busy nights our HC area sells out first. Is that okay, or do we always have to have HC seating available until our last seat is sold before we go in to a Standing Room Only mode? Can we say "all of our HC seats are sold out, but we have some blue section seats left"?

You can actually call the ADA hotline at DOJ for unofficial advice. 1-800-514-0301.

I would think you could restrict sale of the wheelchair designated spaces (and the associated Companion seat) to individuals who use wheelchairs. You would need to have this policy in writing and publish it on your website, ticket info and programs. The companion seat is for the person who is accompanioning (assisting) the person who uses a wheelchair. They are part of the wheelchair reserved seat (space) so you really should not sell them to anyone else. I think the sale could go like this....

"Hi, I would like to purchase a ticket for tonight's game. I need a wheelchair accessible seat."

"Okay. First I must ask, do you use a wheelchair or other mobility device that requires you to have the space as these spaces are reserved for individuals who use wheelchairs"

"Yes, I use a wheelchair"

"Okay, will you be coming with a companion, can we offer you a second ticket. The cost is the same"

"No, I will be coming alone."

"Fantastic. Is there any special needs that we can assist you with during your visit with us."

"No I think I will be fine."

"Well, if you arrive at the game and you need any assistance, please contact one of our ushers for assistance."

"Thank you."

"Now I do need to remind you, that if you arrive and you are not using a wheelchair, we will require you to relocate to another seat. We look forward to seeing you this evening, enjoy the game. And thank you for being a fan."

FWIW - http://www.access-board.gov/adaag/html/adaag.htm#4.32

4.33.2* Size of Wheelchair Locations. Each wheelchair location shall provide minimum clear ground or floor spaces as shown in Fig. 46. Appendix Note

4.33.3* Placement of Wheelchair Locations. Wheelchair areas shall be an integral part of any fixed seating plan and shall be provided so as to provide people with physical disabilities a choice of admission prices and lines of sight comparable to those for members of the general public. They shall adjoin an accessible route that also serves as a means of egress in case of emergency. At least one companion fixed seat shall be provided next to each wheelchair seating area. When the seating capacity exceeds 300, wheelchair spaces shall be provided in more than one location. Readily removable seats may be installed in wheelchair spaces when the spaces are not required to accommodate wheelchair users. Appendix Note

EXCEPTION: Accessible viewing positions may be clustered for bleachers, balconies, and other areas having sight lines that require slopes of greater than 5 percent. Equivalent accessible viewing positions may be located on levels having accessible egress.

redskins4ever · Post by **redskins4ever** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:03 pm

Im going to gripe about two things... neither of which are ADA related...

1) Being Fat and overweight for the majority is a choice not a puitary issue in which their glands don't function correctly, and I know several of these individuals and they are not morbidly obese like some Americans. Fat is not a handicap.

2) Since when did Baby Strollers become Mini-SUVs? I mean how much crap does one person really need to pack and take with them? Five toys, ten diapers, two changes of clothes, two bottles, a handful of pacifers, and a couple of blankets. My god the stroller I remember being in for as ever short of a time that it was... I think up to 2 years... was the smallest damn thing, and my parents had me walking everywhere until I got tired at which point I got hoisted up and carried for a few minutes.

On a side note... a nice policy for the basketball games would be for the University to set aside parking for the handicap in that lot if they call ahead and request it, above and beyond that what the parking normally holds.