McCall to Northwestern as OC

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Falconfreak90 wrote:Indeed....congrats to Coach McCall. He did a very good job for us and I wish him nothing but the best.

I think Coach B should call the plays himself...he's an offensive guru.

Coach Bird is another possibilty due to his work at WVU, as others have said.

If Coach B (as in the main guy) calls his own plays, do we see a return to more of the J5 type offense?

This will be a very interesting off season...and Signing Day is only a month away!

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The J5 offense is not only my favorite offense to watch, but in my opinion the most difficult to defend. It spreads the field. It gets the ball in the hands of the playmakers. It finds mismatches (ie the 4th WR on a LB that can't cover his grandma). The plays feed off of each other (ie you can fake something one time, but go right back to it later). It works against both zone & man to man. It works against all out blitzing (ie NIU game). The QB has the CHOICE of whether to tuck & run himself on pretty much EVERY SINGLE PLAY. This pretty much means there are almost no "bad" plays assuming the QB can always scramble or throw the ball away. I could go on and on, but all I have to say is I'd LOVE to see us go back to this type of offense!
I'm with you on this, but it does put a heavy burden on a QB to make the right reads in the running & passing game. It also requires a QB capable of being a legitimate rushing threat.

Tyler is mobile and can get some yards when a play breaks down, but I'm not sure he's the true rushing threat that you'd need to really play that style of offense. The way we played with J5 was so effective because both he & Pope were equal threats with the ball. Every run play was an option of some sort and the defense could never know ahead of time which was going to receive the ball.

I don't think Tyler can be that QB. He can be very effective if you're only asking him to pass, however. So that begs the question of whether you stick with the '07 system and Tyler or do you bench a young starter and go forward with Glaud/Brown if trying to get to a more '03ish offense.

I'm with you in that I would MUCH, MUCH rather have the added dimension of the '03 offense. What I'm not certain of, however, is whether either of our dual threat QBs is ready to be the trigger man in that sort of system.
I agree with your take on this Brian. To me the 2003 offense is the ideal offense for us to run. To me offense is all about 1. Not letting the defense have any clue as to what it is you're about to do. 2. Blocking the crap out of them once they realize what's coming at them. A lot of that means having a lot of plays that (appear) to be the same as something they saw on film, but actually has many different variations and options out of that same play. With the one constant being that on every single pass play the QB can tuck it and run.

Tyler is certainly the best QB on our team and probably even in the top half in the nation. That being said I'd be willing to give up on him in order to run the 2003 offense. There is nothing wrong with Tyler he is just not in the mold of the QB needed to run that type of system. Are Glaud/Brown in that type of mold? I have no idea, I haven't seen them play enough. My guess is they would have the running threat part down, but could they handle the decision making play after play? That I don't know. If they honestly can't then I suppose you go to something else, because I absolutely hated the 2007 offense.

It really only worked against Minnesota and that is because they were expecting us to come out in the pistol and run the ball like we did in 2006. I dont know if anyone else noticed, but almost all of our pass plays that worked this year, were because of a WR breaking off of their original route or Tyler holding onto the ball forever until a defender came up and he dinked it over their head. To me that is not football.

The gameplans against TSUN and Kent were better in terms of balance and execution, but that is where I draw the line. I really don't think those gameplans were really dynamic like some of the 2003 offense. Also the plays never really flowed together or fed off of each other, which is my guess as to why we weren't consistent throughout the course of the season.

I guess my ideal situation is that Glaud or Brown is the next J5. Brandon gets to call the plays again and we get back to the 2003 offense. However, its unlikely that all that happens, so what do we run with Tyler? Hopefully something with more balance and that uses the scrambling ability that he does have! Please no more short crossing routes over the middle while the defense drops 8.. UGH!
4th & 13 on PU 32yd line.. 56,000 fans up on their feet screaming, i held my breath the entire play trying to make as little noise as possible.. wouldnt u know Sharon would make the biggest touchdown catch in the history of BG Football, FALCON UP!
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Dayons_Den wrote:It sure would be nice to add Josh Harris to the coaching staff in some role to help along the quarterbacks and try to coach up the intangibles he brought to the table so well.
I was thinking the same thing, DD.
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Dayons_Den wrote:It sure would be nice to add Josh Harris to the coaching staff in some role to help along the quarterbacks and try to coach up the intangibles he brought to the table so well.
I was thinking the same thing, DD.
+2...we need a QB coach as Mick filled that duty as well as OC, IIRC...
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Flipper wrote:
1987alum wrote:
Dayons_Den wrote:It sure would be nice to add Josh Harris to the coaching staff in some role to help along the quarterbacks and try to coach up the intangibles he brought to the table so well.
I was thinking the same thing, DD.
+2...we need a QB coach as Mick filled that duty as well as OC, IIRC...
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Dayons_Den wrote:It sure would be nice to add Josh Harris to the coaching staff in some role to help along the quarterbacks and try to coach up the intangibles he brought to the table so well.
I was thinking the same thing, DD.
+2...we need a QB coach as Mick filled that duty as well as OC, IIRC...
Where's Eric White now?
Not to mention Andy Sahm ...
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Or big Brian McClure.


It's been done before- Mark Miller was on the BG staff for a good part of the 80s.
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I could care less who takes over as long as audibles no longer come in from the sidelines.
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Columbus_Zak wrote:I could care less who takes over as long as audibles no longer come in from the sidelines.
Really? Seemed to work OK for Tulsa ... and any number of other colleges running the spread.
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Columbus_Zak wrote:I could care less who takes over as long as audibles no longer come in from the sidelines.
Really? Seemed to work OK for Tulsa ... and any number of other colleges running the spread.
Not to mention their numbering system used on the sidelines...that was pretty impressive.
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Dayons_Den wrote:It sure would be nice to add Josh Harris to the coaching staff in some role to help along the quarterbacks and try to coach up the intangibles he brought to the table so well.
I agree with this. Getting J5 back involved in our football program has to have crossed the minds of all our coaches/players/fans who saw what he did for us!
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good luck to McCall. I have no question Brandon can be a good OC. My issue is giving more responsibilities to a Head Coach that I already deem to be in over his head.

And Josh Harris would be a perfect QBs coach or Grad Assistant
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Globetrotter wrote:good luck to McCall. I have no question Brandon can be a good OC. My issue is giving more responsibilities to a Head Coach that I already deem to be in over his head.

And Josh Harris would be a perfect QBs coach or Grad Assistant
I totally see your point about GB calling the plays, but I actually think it could work the other way. It could be the one thing that is his niche & that puts him over the top from being sometimes a good coach, to always a great one. It will be interesting to see what happens..
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BGSUFootballFan wrote:
Globetrotter wrote:good luck to McCall. I have no question Brandon can be a good OC. My issue is giving more responsibilities to a Head Coach that I already deem to be in over his head.

And Josh Harris would be a perfect QBs coach or Grad Assistant
I totally see your point about GB calling the plays, but I actually think it could work the other way. It could be the one thing that is his niche & that puts him over the top from being sometimes a good coach, to always a great one. It will be interesting to see what happens..
That's the way I look at it too. Usually the coaches that call their own plays delegate a few of their other duties. I have no problems whatsoever with coach Brandon possibly delegating some duties in order to put his hands on what he does best.
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Regardless, after last season, It will be nice to return almost every coach this year
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Globetrotter wrote:Regardless, after last season, It will be nice to return almost every coach this year
True, but as I said before it could be a blessing he is gone. I really didn't like our offensive play calling for the majority of the season. So I secretly won't miss the "air it out" attitude, nor the pass plays on 3rd and 1.
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