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daspollak wrote:http://www.rivals.com/video.asp?section ... vidid=2965

Here is the video of Kory practicing at the Senior Bowl. From the video Kory looks like he only got beat once.
Looked to me like he got smoked all 3 times. Beat clean on one and pushed right into the imaginary QB's face very quickly the other two times.

He did better against the second guy.

Steve Justice didn't look much better to me though.
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Only got beat once. He looked pretty impressive on that video. You also have to remember, thats one-on-one pass blocking...not the easiest thing to do.
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daspollak wrote:http://www.rivals.com/video.asp?section ... vidid=2965

Here is the video of Kory practicing at the Senior Bowl. From the video Kory looks like he only got beat once.
Dunno which video you watched, but what I saw wasn't good. On one play the guy ran right past him. The other two he was absolutely bulldozed straight backwards. I'd say he got beaten pretty badly on all 3 snaps.


FWIW, This is the only other mention of Kory that I've been able to find, this from sportsillustrated.com:

Red Bryant/DT/Texas A&M: Bryant was near dominant all afternoon, collapsing the pocket and driving blockers off the line. His main opponent during practice, center Kory Lichtensteiger of Bowling Green, was so frustrated he resorted to fisticuffs at one point.
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If you look the coach is suppose to represent the QB. I know those were just the highlights on the tape. We'll see on draft day what the NFL thinks of him.
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From what I saw, that guy was just really good. The second guy didn't get past him at all. For those of you that say he was blown off the ball, also realize that in pass blocking you do not drive the defender. You are supposed to give ground. The tackles don't look as bad as the interior linemen because they just run the DE around the end and behind the QB, where as the interior linemen just have to give ground and keep the defensive lineman in front of them.
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footballguy51 wrote:From what I saw, that guy was just really good. The second guy didn't get past him at all. For those of you that say he was blown off the ball, also realize that in pass blocking you do not drive the defender. You are supposed to give ground. The tackles don't look as bad as the interior linemen because they just run the DE around the end and behind the QB, where as the interior linemen just have to give ground and keep the defensive lineman in front of them.
I didn't watch to see a second set of plays with Kory, I'll have to check it out some other time.

I will say that the dude from Maryland can be an absolute BEAST when he wants to be. That's a kid that everyone says has first round talent, but just doesn't always seem to give it his all. Looked like he was giving it his all against Kory, and you saw what could happen...given his MO Kory could have just as easily pancaked him 3 straight plays tomorrow.

I'm no OL coach, by any means, so I'll defer to you on the pass blocking thing. I just know as a fan if my Center got driven that far backwards it would usually be a bad thing, because that's where the QB should be. If he were giving ground, wouldn't he want to give the ground but force him wider so the QB could step up in the pocket? Honestly OL/DL battle is the most important aspect in football, but it's not something I'm real familiar with the technique/fundamental/mechanics of it all.
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My thoughts: Doing this drill in practice is MUCH different then an actual game situation. The defender has no responsibilty in regard to protecting against a running play in this drill. When all you have to do is rush the passer one-on-one against the center in a drill like this, I bet the defender is going to win the drill about 75% of the time. In a game situation, the defender in not selling out like in this drill.

Also, in a game situation, the center is almost always going to get guard help up the middle. Since straight through the center is the quickest route to the QB, it is obvious that the OL needs the most protection there. The center will only have a man over him in a 3-4 type set. Which means the guards are uncovered and one generally helps the Center on the NT. In a 4-3 type defense, the Center is uncovered and he is helping one of the guards.

Nonetheless, still would liked to see Korey handle that guy better.
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Warthog wrote:My thoughts: Doing this drill in practice is MUCH different then an actual game situation. The defender has no responsibilty in regard to protecting against a running play in this drill. When all you have to do is rush the passer one-on-one against the center in a drill like this, I bet the defender is going to win the drill about 75% of the time. In a game situation, the defender in not selling out like in this drill.
This is exactly correct. We would run this drill in high school, and I was able to beat our best OL in that drill. Why? All you're concerned about is getting to the QB. Did you notice that QB's are rushed more if they pass on third down (even when the team doesn't blitz) than they are on first or second? The DL knows it's a passing situation, so they go all out to get to the QB. On other times, the DL has to worry about gap assignments on running plays.
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http://www.rivals.com/video.asp?section ... vidid=2979

Video from today's practice, same drill. Korey was at guard for two plays, looked good once, bad once. I think there were two plays at center also. Again, one decent, one bad
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i think he looked a lot better in this practice than the other one. only time he got beat was when fluellen blew past him which is nothing to be ashamed of.
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