BG falls by 4 to the Scuds...

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:56 pm

UT pulls out a 52-48 win in what had to be an ugly game to watch. Again, BG missed way too many free throws and had too many turnovers. UT played as poorly as BG did. The Big OP had a great game but other than that, we struggled.

All in all, a solid first year for Coach Orr. With everyone back next year, it should be a better year next season.

GO BG!

JimmyZ11381 · Post by **JimmyZ11381** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:04 pm

As much as I HATE losing to toledo...I'm still happy with the improvement this team showed this season. We have some overall good talent coming in next year and I think we will be even better.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:17 pm

Outside of OP, that game was a complete embarassment. Miller, Jakubowski, Moten and Larson, none of them looked like they knew where they were or why. Quite frankly, I'm pretty disappointed by the way this season has wound down. We had no business to be losing to a Toledo team that was playing as poorly as they were. We just found a way to play worse than they did. Somehow.

From what I can tell, what is happening with this team right now is not related to coaching. The turnovers, the idiotic lobs down the floor, the complete lack of effort going after rebounds, all of it is the product of either individual indifference, lack of effort, or just succumbing to the pressure of the moment. Whatever the problem is, this team has a lot of work to do before next season.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:57 pm

So glad I couldn't make the trip to Cleveland to watch that game...my god did it sound ugly on the radio. I seriously felt like jabbing sharp objects in my ears from how bad it was.

Thanks to Otis, he seemed like the only guy to show up today. Knight hit some boards as well. Other than that my god did it sound brutal.

The team still exceeded expectations, but they really should've beaten that Toledo team...they're not good at all.

The offseason is upon us. Hopefully the newcomers next year are ready to contribute & the returning players improve. We exceeded expectations this season, but it was also painfully clear that we have a ways to go before we're competing for a championship.

OSUFALCON · Post by **OSUFALCON** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:01 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:Outside of OP, that game was a complete embarassment. Miller, Jakubowski, Moten and Larson, none of them looked like they knew where they were or why. Quite frankly, I'm pretty disappointed by the way this season has wound down. We had no business to be losing to a Toledo team that was playing as poorly as they were. We just found a way to play worse than they did. Somehow.

From what I can tell, what is happening with this team right now is not related to coaching. The turnovers, the idiotic lobs down the floor, the complete lack of effort going after rebounds, all of it is the product of either individual indifference, lack of effort, or just succumbing to the pressure of the moment. Whatever the problem is, this team has a lot of work to do before next season.

Last year all of these issues were blamed on lack of talent and poor coaching! That being said , I'm glad Orr is our coach (I was fan and a friend of Coach DD) and think many good things will come with this program but besides beating Cincinnati, OU and Kent St this season stuck!

To play the way they did the last three games is unbelieveable.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:18 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:Outside of OP, that game was a complete embarassment. Miller, Jakubowski, Moten and Larson, none of them looked like they knew where they were or why. Quite frankly, I'm pretty disappointed by the way this season has wound down. We had no business to be losing to a Toledo team that was playing as poorly as they were. We just found a way to play worse than they did. Somehow.

From what I can tell, what is happening with this team right now is not related to coaching. The turnovers, the idiotic lobs down the floor, the complete lack of effort going after rebounds, all of it is the product of either individual indifference, lack of effort, or just succumbing to the pressure of the moment. Whatever the problem is, this team has a lot of work to do before next season.

We just got back from the game tonight. Guys, it was ugly…..and I mean, UGLY! I can’t believe this is the same team that beat Kent State a week and a half ago. We looked so good that night, and coming home from that game, I thought maybe this team was hitting stride. But tonight, we looked more like the team that lost to Buffalo and Miami. We couldn’t hit an outside shot to save our lives. I mean our jumpers were lucking to just draw iron. If it weren’t for Polk and Knight scoring in the paint, or Toledo’s inability to hit a three, we would have been destroyed. I was just embarrassed by not only our play, but Toledo’s. We were pathetic out there tonight, and Toledo was slightly less pathetic. That might sound harsh, but it was embarrassing hearing all the people around us laughing and making comments, mostly about BG. I’m not going to repeat the comments, but we had to move seats because it was getting ridiculous.

Our inability to score just haunted us all night long. I don’t know if we just felt completely uncomfortable shooting in the Q or what, but it was dreadful watching the shots from outside. Our offense consisted of dribble and passing out high, then setting a high pick and forcing up a shot before the clock expired. Polk had some nice little turns in the lane, Knight had some nice stick-backs, but Miller struggled mightily, Moten couldn’t get in a rhythm, Jakubowski didn’t scratch until the closing minutes, and Larson had hands like butt cheeks tonight. Clements was just flat out awful shooting tonight, most of the time he was out of control and just threw up shots that had not chance at going in. Toledo did a decent job at getting up in the face of our shooters, be we just showed nothing on offense all night. Had they collapsed down low on Polk (which surprised me they never did), we would have been lucky to break 30 points for the night. As usual, we had a high number of turnovers (passes right off the hands of our big men down low, long outlet passes downcourt that were either overthrown or intercepted, and the typical stolen passes out high that led to fast breaks the other way, one resulting in an intentional foul and another that could have been called. We also allowed 15 more free throws than we attempted, that hurts in a game you lose by four. Our lone three came with 4.5 second left in the game.

A bright spot might have been our zone defense on the perimeter, but I think it also had more to do with UT bricking open looks from three. What might have bugged me the most though was, with about six minutes to play and the game still a one-possession contest, during a timeout I knew we were going to lose. Toledo ran over to its bench, and our five guys on the floor walked to the bench, most of them hanging their head, and our coaching staff stood there, all four in a row, and no one was saying or doing anything. It was like they were all just informed some bad news or something. I was like would someone on that bench say something or do something to light a fire under their asses! A coach, a player, a team manager, just someone!!! They sat there almost sulking like we were down 40.

Hats of to Toledo, they were the less poorer of the two teams tonight and there’s no other way to say it any nicer. It was one of those games that someone had to win, and one did. It just wasn’t BG.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:21 pm

hammb wrote:So glad I couldn't make the trip to Cleveland to watch that game...my god did it sound ugly on the radio.

Be VERY THANKFUL you didn't go to this game. Don't let the close score fool you, this game gave the MAC Tournament a black eye tonight, and sadly, BG was more to blame. Our players and coaches did their best impression of deer in headlights. Maybe all the hunter (burnt) orange in the crowd was to blame.

OSUFALCON · Post by **OSUFALCON** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:27 pm

BGSU33 wrote:
hammb wrote:So glad I couldn't make the trip to Cleveland to watch that game...my god did it sound ugly on the radio.
Be VERY THANKFUL you didn't go to this game. Don't let the close score fool you, this game gave the MAC Tournament a black eye tonight, and sadly, BG was more to blame. Our players and coaches did their best impression of deer in headlights. Maybe all the hunter (burnt) orange in the crowd was to blame.

Total waste of time and money! Gas at $3.49 per gallon and a trip to Cleveland for a $5.00 beer. Wait until next year , again!

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:28 pm

OSUFALCON wrote:
BGSU33 wrote:
hammb wrote:So glad I couldn't make the trip to Cleveland to watch that game...my god did it sound ugly on the radio.
Be VERY THANKFUL you didn't go to this game. Don't let the close score fool you, this game gave the MAC Tournament a black eye tonight, and sadly, BG was more to blame. Our players and coaches did their best impression of deer in headlights. Maybe all the hunter (burnt) orange in the crowd was to blame.
Total waste of time and money! Gas at $3.49 per gallon and a trip to Cleveland for a $5.00 beer. Wait until next year , again!

$5 beer? Where the hell were you buying it? I payed $6.25 for a damned bottle of Coors Light! Man, I really got screwed tonight!

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:08 pm

Yeah. Bad game. They happen.

BUT, it was a good season and a season no one* should be down about.

*Except for the usual suspects in the "the water is nowhere near the top of the glass" brigade.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:17 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:*Except for the usual suspects in the "the water is nowhere near the top of the glass" brigade.

No doubt, this season was certainly a step in the right direction. Hopefully, we’ll finally return everyone next season (can you only imagine what that would be like!!!) and we can start to contend in the MAC again. But anyone who was there tonight in person can attest, that proverbial glass that is half empty/full, it had a leak in it tonight. It was cracked in the 46-point loss to Buffalo, it started leaking in the loss at Miami, and Toledo was drinking from it tonight at The Q.

JWEIII · Post by **JWEIII** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:07 pm

Back from The Q. It was a hard game to watch. But you have to credit TU's defense. They made us settle for jump shots, and that's not our game. Joe Jak and Nate couldn't drive or drive and dish. We had a poor shooting night (I think we had only one three?). Against Kent B-Mo and Joe Jak were hitting the outside shots and that opened things up. The shots just didn't go down tonight.

BG played solid D, and that kept them in it.

My bright spot was OP in the post. He established position, got that ball and made strong moves to the basket. Loved his play tonight. Hats off Big Man.

Finally, not to all EMU fans: but the two that sat behind us tonight were 1st class A-holes. I understand your team won earlier in the day, but to jab BG, Toledo, Miami and Buffalo fans? Classy. Go Western.

Better season than I would have anticipated. Thanks!

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15 pm

Probably the guy that was complaining about how awful the UT fans were and how classy EMU was when they visited Savage last week.

Polk apparantly has our number. He is one huge individual and played pretty well within himself. We got pretty frustrated and launched some ill advised thees early. When we got inside more we seemed to do better-Kent did a much better job controlling the game from the point than in the past - only one TO as compared to the five or six he usually gets. That, the steals and the BG fouls were about all that kept us in the game.

Well, I'd like to say "Great game, Falcons" but it was pretty ugly all around so I won't. At least it maintained everyone's interest until the end- damning with faint praise, I know.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:26 pm

Most obvious fact of the night:

Bowling Green had their one big, shining moment in their final home game agaisnt #23 Kent State. That was our national championship. After that game, it was readily apparent that we did not give a rats azz about the rest of the season. You have to physically try to lose to Buffalo by 40 to accomplish it, and we did. Then a poor effort at Miami, followed by the definition of pathetic tonight at the Q. We just didn't care anymore.

Toledo and BG both looked like they were scared to death of moving on to face Kent in the next round. KSU to clobber Toledo by about 40 tomorrow, and they'd do the same to us if it was us...

Bigcman0789 · Post by **Bigcman0789** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:44 pm

Where were our three point shots? There was a period of five or so minutes where it looked like we had never played basketball. I suppose this last run of games shows our inconsistency as a young team, Polk showed up, others didn't lets just hope we can remember our progress and forget our failures. I look forward to seeing the freshmen return with more confidence to their game next year.