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SicSic80 wrote:
tekekini wrote:
redskins4ever wrote:OSU doesn't develop QBs so I found it odd that he chose to go to school there.
Troy will be a NFL starter, Boeckman is one of the top QB draft prospects and did pretty damn well in his first year as a starter. His stock will only go up this year. Cooper didn't develop QB's. Tressell and Daniels have done well with THEIR QB's that THEY recruited.
Troy will be...... :roll: . That is nothing less than absurd - come on now, you're smarter than that!
Boeckman will be the next Chris Winke.

Troy won't be anything when the Ravens draft a QB in the first round.
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Opinions are like assholes....



on second thought...only you are :!:
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SicSic80 wrote:
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redskins4ever wrote:OSU doesn't develop QBs so I found it odd that he chose to go to school there.
Troy will be a NFL starter, Boeckman is one of the top QB draft prospects and did pretty damn well in his first year as a starter. His stock will only go up this year. Cooper didn't develop QB's. Tressell and Daniels have done well with THEIR QB's that THEY recruited.
Troy will be...... :roll: . That is nothing less than absurd - come on now, you're smarter than that!
Just wait. Anymore absurd than Vince Young being a starter?

Oh, I forgot he didn't go to OSU so he is OK and gets a free pass from you despite the fact Troy is a better passer :roll:
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I know you get off looking at Pryor's photo, and that of most of the buckeyes, why don't do you yourself a favor and move down to your true home in the Short North.
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tekekini wrote:
SicSic80 wrote:
tekekini wrote:
redskins4ever wrote:OSU doesn't develop QBs so I found it odd that he chose to go to school there.
Troy will be a NFL starter, Boeckman is one of the top QB draft prospects and did pretty damn well in his first year as a starter. His stock will only go up this year. Cooper didn't develop QB's. Tressell and Daniels have done well with THEIR QB's that THEY recruited.
Troy will be...... :roll: . That is nothing less than absurd - come on now, you're smarter than that!
Just wait. Anymore absurd than Vince Young being a starter?

Oh, I forgot he didn't go to OSU so he is OK and gets a free pass from you despite the fact Troy is a better passer :roll:
Consider please:
Height - works very much against Troy!
Scrambling ability - Hands down to Vince!
Pocket presence - Vince is there, Yet to see from Troy.
Ability to read defense - same as above.
Ability to be a leader and WIN THE BIG ONE? Troy - :smt015 then :smt022 ; Vince - :smt021 then \:D/

Yes Tek - Absurd!
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And when it comes to Vince Young...he doesn't belong starting, either. He's a glorified running back that can throw a 20 yard pass semi-accurately. Troy is a glorified fullback that can throw a 10 yard pass. Get the drift?
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Not sure why I'm even chiming in here, but let's just say that comparing Troy Smith to Vince Young is completely absurd. The two are not even in the same stratosphere of talent level. VY was a far superior player coming out of HS. VY was a far superior player coming out of college. I'd be willing to be that VY is a far superior player still today.
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of course for every Justin Zwick, ther are a number of Reggie Bush, Vine Young's etc who were highly rated and do pan out...ratings aren't always accurate, but they will give you a pretty good idea of what you are getting. You will notice that the best teams like USC, LSU, UF always seem to have the best classes, right? If BG got a 5 star kid, don't tell me yo wouldn't be creamming your pants falconboy...
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SicSic80 wrote:
tekekini wrote:
SicSic80 wrote:
tekekini wrote:
redskins4ever wrote:OSU doesn't develop QBs so I found it odd that he chose to go to school there.
Troy will be a NFL starter, Boeckman is one of the top QB draft prospects and did pretty damn well in his first year as a starter. His stock will only go up this year. Cooper didn't develop QB's. Tressell and Daniels have done well with THEIR QB's that THEY recruited.
Troy will be...... :roll: . That is nothing less than absurd - come on now, you're smarter than that!
Just wait. Anymore absurd than Vince Young being a starter?

Oh, I forgot he didn't go to OSU so he is OK and gets a free pass from you despite the fact Troy is a better passer :roll:
Consider please:
Height - works very much against Troy!
Scrambling ability - Hands down to Vince!
Pocket presence - Vince is there, Yet to see from Troy.
Ability to read defense - same as above.
Ability to be a leader and WIN THE BIG ONE? Troy - :smt015 then :smt022 ; Vince - :smt021 then \:D/

Yes Tek - Absurd!

The only thing you have is height...as VY is 5 inches taller.

but 9 TD's and 17 INT's? He doesnt have pocket presence, he runs too early and when he doesn't run he panicks and throws INT's!

Troy started 2 games had 2 TD's and Zero INT's...that is an average of 0 INT's per game...VY had an average over 1 INT per game.

Ability to read defense? as mentioned above 17 INT's????

Wow he must read like a 3rd grader.

<sarcasm>you are right VY is so much better</sarcasm>
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Smith was 1-2 last year against pathetic opponents.

Young played the whole year and was 10-7 w/ a playoff berth. Not to menton, he played in the AFC South that was much more competitive than the AFC North.

Young has a BCS ring, Smith doesn't. Young knows how to win.
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BGDrew wrote:Smith was 1-2 last year against pathetic opponents.
Smith was 1-1 as a starter, he did not start that Miami game. He lost at Seattle and beat Pittsburgh at home.
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Did I say he was 1-2 as a starter?
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BGDrew wrote:Did I say he was 1-2 as a starter?
Can't count a loss for him when he didn't start.


VY plays on a much better team..than Troy...VY is NOT the team.

Troy came in late against Miami and almost pulled off the win in his first regular season playing time.

Joe Montana wouldn't be able to win with the Ravens.

VY is better because he has a BCS ring? Thats like saying Dilfer was better than Marino because Dilfer has a super bowl ring and Marino doesn't.

And I never said Troy would be a superb NFL QB...The original statement from old man redskins4ever because he refuses to live in the present and call them the red hawks , was that OSU does not develop QB's. My response was that Troy will be a starter (which he will), Boeckman is Kiper's # 1 rated QB (at least he was the last time that I saw the rankings) and he hasnt played his senior year.

Again, my point was that Cooper didn't develop QB's. JT and QB coach Daniels develop them well. He turned Troy from a running QB into a mostly passing QB in just two years.
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BGDrew wrote:Smith was 1-2 last year against pathetic opponents.

Young played the whole year and was 10-7 w/ a playoff berth. Not to menton, he played in the AFC South that was much more competitive than the AFC North.

Young has a BCS ring, Smith doesn't. Young knows how to win.
So because Smith went 12-1 in his senior season he doesn't know how to win? Come on. They were both great college quarterbacks, Young slightly better.

I don't like either of them as starting quarterbacks but when you are talking about the Ravens they have been known to stick worse people on the field then Troy Smith.
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Plus there are not very many great NFL QB's around right now. There is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Tony Romo. Who else can you call a great QB?



SO, back to my point that Troy Smith will be a starter in the NFL. He is better than most starters in the league right now...including Leinart, Alex Smith, Whoever Minnesota's QB is (cant think of his name), whoever ATL's QB ends up being, Delhomme, Aaron Rodgers (if he ends up starting for the Pack) to name a few.
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