Stanley definitely gone, Nate Brown next?

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:33 am

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /804120365

From Saturday's story in The Blade.

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:17 am

The wording left open the possibility of a return, we probably shouldn't hold our breath at this point. While I don't want to point any fingers because I don't know the details, it's irritating to read about the Office of Student-Athlete Services putting its energy into conducting superfluous seminars about turning pro ( http://bgsufalcons.cstv.com/genrel/040808aab.html ) while the football program suffers academic casualties like this.

This is why it's also good to have 20 seniors in the program, including 2 with extensive starting expereince at the LB position.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:45 am

Come on Nate! Get those grades in order! This is very disappointing news because I was excited to see him play and see what he could do in the spring game next week. This news is also starting to make the QB position concerning to me. When the 2007 season ended, we had Sheehan, Glaud and Brown as the top three QB’s coming into 2008. Since then, Glaud has transferred and now Brown could become an academic casualty. I know we will be bringing in Beam, but I really hope Brown can get himself situated with his grades. Sheehan and Beam are both upperclassmen and from what I gathered Brown was being groomed as the QB of the future for BG. Nate, buckle down and get the grades in order. You’ve got a lot of people wanting to see you in uniform here for years to come, and you have a bright future ahead of yourself if you can allow yourself the opportunity to play.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:27 pm

Losing Brown would put a big hole in the depth chart...but incoming freshman Aaron Pankrantz has a ton of potential too

freefalcon · Post by **freefalcon** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:42 pm

..."The wording left open the possibility of a return, we probably shouldn't hold our breath at this point. While I don't want to point any fingers because I don't know the details, it's irritating to read about the Office of Student-Athlete Services putting its energy into conducting superfluous seminars about turning pro while the football program suffers academic casualties like this...."

From what I have seen there are more than enough tools (Office of Student-Athlete Services especially) for the athlete to succeed at BGSU to get the degree. It starts with the athlete.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:25 pm

JoeFalcon wrote:While I don't want to point any fingers because I don't know the details, it's irritating to read about the Office of Student-Athlete Services putting its energy into conducting superfluous seminars about turning pro ( http://bgsufalcons.cstv.com/genrel/040808aab.html ) while the football program suffers academic casualties like this.

If that is not pointing the finger, I don't know what is.

As freefalcon stated, our student-athletes are provided a lot of assistance to maintain their eligibility. All they need to do is seek the assistance and it is there.

The seminar was very appropriate for the department to sponsor.

Thank you to Mark Shook and staff for all that you do for our teams.

MarkL · Post by **MarkL** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:35 pm

Well, our QBs are thin, but I'm not too concerned. And on point of incoming freshmen, I'm actually more excited about Tanski than about Pankratz, though I also am very excited about Pankratz and his arm strenth. Its not every day we get a Mr. Football to play for us, and I think he's got some serious potential in our offense.

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:28 am

transfer2BGSU wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote:While I don't want to point any fingers because I don't know the details, it's irritating to read about the Office of Student-Athlete Services putting its energy into conducting superfluous seminars about turning pro ( http://bgsufalcons.cstv.com/genrel/040808aab.html ) while the football program suffers academic casualties like this.
If that is not pointing the finger, I don't know what is.

As freefalcon stated, our student-athletes are provided a lot of assistance to maintain their eligibility. All they need to do is seek the assistance and it is there.

The seminar was very appropriate for the department to sponsor.

Thank you to Mark Shook and staff for all that you do for our teams.

Wrong. Pointing the finger would be blaming them for losing Stanley, which I did not. I precisely did NOT do this because, as I stated, the details are not known.

The primary job of SAS is maintaining the eligibility of our athletes. OF COURSE it's incumbent on the individual kid to put forth the effort, but I just want to be sure every ounce of effort is expanded to that end so the worst case scenario--dropping out of the program--doesn't occur, as it did in this case.

I maintain that organazing the seminar is wholly unnessesary, a gigantic waste of time and taking attention, energy and focus away from where it should be: keeping our actual student-athletes on the right academic track. If the players have questions (and the only ones that statistically would would be hockey) they have their own coaches as resources for them. A two hour seminar isn't going to be making or breaking their decision making process anyway.

footballguy51 · Post by **footballguy51** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:34 pm

The seminar spoke about the importance of gaining your college degree. Isn't a college degree related to academics in some way? Maybe I'm just missing something in here, but last time I checked, a seminar telling the athletes that a college degree is important should sway the students to keep their focus on their studies.

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:39 am

footballguy51 wrote:The seminar spoke about the importance of gaining your college degree.

Wow, a college degree is important?! You certainly don't hear that anywhere else! Were it not for the seminar, this crucial nugget of wisdom would be utterly lost on our student-athletes who thought college was just an elaborate excuse to play beer pong before turning pro.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:11 am

Man, that sux Stanley didn't make the grade.

cph2133 · Post by **cph2133** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:14 am

What is really disappointing is that, from knowing varsity athletes in other sports (so i'm making the assumption football players have the same standard), the players have mandatory study tables of 8 hours/week (more depending on their previous semester performance, but 8/wk is minimum), advisor appointments weekly about being on track, and have their classes hand picked out for them with "easier" teachers, and they are "strongly advised to take with that particular teacher" not to mention tutors and a very VERY strong incentive to stay up to par!

Just a shame to see a golden opportunity for some of these players to get a free education for their god given ability and hard work, and just potentially blow it.

Here is to hoping these guys can straighten up and get their grades in order. If not for the team's sake, at least their own betterment.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:45 am

Falconfreak90 wrote:Man, that sux Stanley didn't make the grade.

Sadly, I predicted this would come to pass. Very disappointing.