HornLakeTiger wrote:Definitely no C-USA preview with Marshall and Cincinnati.....I hope the Herd kicks the absolute living crap out of the Bearcats in Ft. Worth......
I have no love for Marshall. I don't think of them as a MAC team any more.
HornLakeTiger wrote:Definitely no C-USA preview with Marshall and Cincinnati.....I hope the Herd kicks the absolute living crap out of the Bearcats in Ft. Worth......
Hey hornlake, believe me when I say that you will grow to hate Marshall and there inbred fans. Simply put it does not get any worse. Even when I still considered them a conference member, they were the only team I rooted against in OOC games. If you ever want to see a backwards town, go to a game at Marshall. You'll believe it when you see it.
Well, I have to say that's shaping up to be one big ol' turd sandwich of a bowl game there. A team that lost its last game by 10 touchdowns against the Blundering Turd.
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This may have been mentioned somewhere, but what happens if ND backs out of its bowl game and THERE ARE no more bowl eligible teams. Would they go back to SC or Clemson, or take a 5-6 team, or cancel the bowl. Just wondering. Because it could work out that exactly 56 teams go to bowls, thats including Akron and Marshall. Would they take a Div 2 school?
The ND players agreed to play in the game (gee that was nice of them) but their former coach will not lead them.
The more I look at it, the more I think Ty didn't like where he was. He knew he was the second choice, he didn't excite ND fans or alumni, and I would guess that word got back to UND that he was looking at other jobs.
ND dumping a coach after three of five years is one thing. But I can't think ND calls an emergency trustees meeting to fire him, unless they wanted to avoid having a coach leave them for something like a PAC 10 school.
If you fire him, then you dumped him because he didn't get it done, and you effectively shut him up. Unless the guy is Bob Davie who still seems to think he can convince the world he could coach. If Ty leaves ND, then he is free to say why he didn't think it was as good as where he went. And that is too much for ND types to deal with.
Personally, even if I've gone and will go to games there, I think dumping Ty was a good thing for ND. Ty was hired on the quick, to make up for the O'leary mess. Much like how they hired Davie to quickly cover up the way the railroaded Holtz out the door.
If they managed to get Urban, they are simply fixing a problem they created eight years ago.
Most of ND's mystique is created by ND fans for their own consumption. They don't care what anybody outside of their own circles think. Most schools craft their own lore and tradition over time, based on what they have around them. BG did that with the cannon and other things Urban pulled together for example. They didn't actually have a rule or tradition of giving coaches five years or their contract, that was something the fans picked out of the air after the trend was noted. They have flexed their admission rules when Holtz was there, and likely will do so again. They will simply not promote the fact they do. Their schedule is what Bob Davie is convinced cost him his job. He whines a lot. Their schedule isn't easy, but don't tell me Navy is a power program, even this year. Don't try to sell me on Michigan State being a huge game. Pitt? BC? It might not be the same as playing UB or San Jose, but it shouldn't be as big a deal if the coaches were doing their jobs.
ND has yet to bring a coach in that totally committed to a wide open offense. Davie started, failed, and ran back to running Holtz's traditional scheme. They won some games, the fans relaxed, then Davie got sucked into the same hole Holtz was working out of. Ty has laid some groundwork, but as with Stanford, he can't close the deal.
Urban can take kids, use them as they should be, getting the most out of them, and has gotten results. He would bring ND the exact image they totally lacked in both Bob Davie and Willingham. He is a fire breathing, die-hard Notre Dame fan, who both understands what the school is about, and what they expect.
He might be buddies with Bob Davie, but I seem to recall him brining in Earl Bruce, Go Blue Bo, Lou Holtz, and a lot of others whose view might differ a bit from Davie's.
Both Davie and Ty come across like unemotional rocks on TV. That doesn't get anybody pumped up. ND fans believe in Meyer and he doesn't even have the job yet. He would electrify their fans, students, players, and recruits. They might chew him up someday if he doesn't win. However he would have to think he can't win, not to take the job. If he blinks, if he says 'no' to ND, and doesn't have a Florida lined up, he runs the risk of wasting what maybe be the best chance he has to take another step up the ladder.
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Cincinnati, which travels like a bunch of in-bred goat herders, and Marshall, coming off a bad season... whew...!!!
Projected attendance for the mighty 2004 PlainsCapital Ft. Worthless Bowl: 11,627 (11,000 locals, 601 Marshall fans, 26 UC fans). At least UC will have better attendance than their last bowl appearance in New Orleans.
It looks like they are the ones who are going to be left out of the bowl picture. If I was an Akron fan, I would be pretty peeved that the team we beat (the Turd) was going to a bowl instead of them.
