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rood wrote:
For those that don't know...the teams each have a partner in the league depending on geography. It seems we kind of got "stuck" with ND being the other team without a nearby "built-in" rival.
BG/ND
Michigan/MSU
OSU/Miami
Ferris/Western
LSSU/Northern
UNO/Alaska
Wouldn't it have made more sense for OSU and ND to be partners (size/history/all that) and Miami and us since we're both MAC schools?

Wait, that would require thought at CCHA headquarters. Never mind.
By history, you mean history as bottom feeders in the conference? They do have that in common.

I don't think the CCHA cares two cents about the MAC. That's just my two cents though :)
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you can not compare the two conferences. the ccha definately does not care about the mac. You really can not consider us a Mac schol when it comes to hockey.

Which is also why the school should be putting a lot more money into the hockey program because we are the only sport in the school that has won a national title and that is capable of winning another one.

Athletic Department needs to come to its senses. someone should give them some smelling salt and wake them up.
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freddiethefalconBG wrote:you can not compare the two conferences. the ccha definately does not care about the mac. You really can not consider us a Mac schol when it comes to hockey.

Which is also why the school should be putting a lot more money into the hockey program because we are the only sport in the school that has won a national title and that is capable of winning another one.

Athletic Department needs to come to its senses. someone should give them some smelling salt and wake them up.
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you can not compare the two conferences. the ccha definately does not care about the mac. You really can not consider us a Mac schol when it comes to hockey.
I wasn't comparing the conferences. I was simply saying that from the perspective of rivalries it makes more sense for BG to be paired with Miami and OSU to be paired with Notre Dame.

It must be sad to live in your world where the only thing you can do is put other people down.
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Post by freddiethefalconBG »

I wasn't putting you down. just making a point. im sorry you took it that way.

Why does it make more sense to be paired with Miami and OSU?
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Post by rood »

Sorry I misunderstood.

I'm just saying BG plays Miami in every sport, every year. OSU and ND sometimes play each other in things other than hockey. Miami and BG almost never play OSU or ND in anything but hockey. Since rivalries are built on familiarity it would make more sense for Miami to be our scheduling partner and OSU and ND to be partnered. I only brought up the MAC as a way of pointing out how much we play each other in all sports.
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I understand your point and i understand that BG plays those schools in all the other sports.

The reason that the league does not take that into consideration is the fact that BG is in the MAC except for hockey. It is obvious that the calibur of athletes are much higher for hockey than any other sport at BG.NOt saying that there aren't great athletes at BG. That is not what i mean.what i mean is that the hockey program is the only program in the school that can play for a national title and the level of skill and competition is all around higher for hockey. So there really is no familiarity in rivalries because hockey is just on a much higher level than the rest of the sports at BG.

When you are a hockey player growing up and have a chance to play at BG that is considered going to a Great Div I hockey program. However that is not the same for Football, basketball and so on...

I hope you can understand the point i am trying make.
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I do understand your point. I'm looking at things from a fan's perspective. For the average fan sitting in the stands playing Miami 4 times a year will get me more excited than playing ND because I can identify with that match-up on a broader level. It has nothing to do with the relative talent levels of different conferences. If we are in one of the top conferences for hockey then we certainly need to play to that level in hockey. Miami certainly does. Western doesn't.
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Post by freddiethefalconBG »

I agree with you on that. We need to step it up. But a major change needs to be made in order for this team to get back to the way it use to be and the facilities is not the main thing,,,
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So, we're agreeing to agree and understand each other??? Does anyone conquer?
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Post by hockey fan »

If you look at these match-ups it really has more to do with geography than anything else. Michigan-Michigan St. is obvious. Everything else is all about what the shortest drive is.
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Post by rood »

LSSU-NMU seems pretty obvious too. And I know that Ferris really builds up the Western series every year.
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I'm thinkging the official term is "rivaly partners." Here's a reference: http://ccha.cstv.com/schools/alaf/ccha-alaf-staff.html (first sentence)

UM vs. MSU is big. LSSU and NMU play for a bucket or shovel or cup or something, don't they? UNO and Alaska got stuck together since they're the newbies. I don't know about Ferris and Western, but georgraphy does have a way of fueling rivalries.

I get charged-up more for OSU than ND, but that could just be me. Back in the day, when it was difficult to get tickets, BG sent an allotment to OSU and my fellow Falcons and I would buy 'em for the "away game." Decent seats, too: 5th or 6th row behind what is now the away bench.

Maybe Miami and OSU were paired because of the appalling venues. Goggin wasn't a dump but it was small and a little weird. The OSU Ice Rink, on the other hand, was a sight to behold.
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Post by Drago »

Miami and OSU are big time rivals when it comes to hockey. The CCHA tries to partner mostly by geography. The logic is that teams will spend a little less money in team travel if they play a somewhat close opponent each year home and home.
Yes, I know UM is closer than ND, but the CCHA isn't stupid either, they will not break up that pairing.
It could be worse. Notre Dame is at least a bigger name school and with their resurgence, it gives our team an opportunity to knock off a top-10 opponent 4 times a year.
How boring would it be to play Ferris or LSSU four times a year, every year?
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Post by PegCityFalcon »

Can't wait for the Wilfrid-Laurier game. The Hawks of Kitchener-Waterloo are a better program than Windsor and are one of the top Ontario teams year after year. I am also intrigued at the Mankato State match-up
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