BGSU in the Big 11
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buffaloefalcon
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BGSU in the Big 11
Could you imagine BG being in the Big 11? I can see it! I can also see Turdledo going to the Big East (they actually look the part to me). I love the MAC and wouldn't want to jump ship, but imagine the benefit the University, and entire athletic org would gain! I hate the Big 11, but we've had great success against them (except OSU) and I think we'd be a great fit. But like I said, I love the MAC and would hate to leave it. Wish we could've kept UCF, and Marshall. They (ok, Marshall) brought some great competition to the MAC and I hated to see them go. I know I may tick alot of old school fans with this, but this IS a forum and that's what I'm engaging in is discussion and I think this is relevant.
I don't think it's relevant at all. BG has a better chance of being struck by nuclear weapons launched from Korea than they do of getting an invite to the Big 10.
Do I think it would be awesome? Hell yeah, I like the MAC, but I'd leave for a BCS conference in a heartbeat.
Do I think we could compete there? I don't think we could initially, but once we started getting all that additional revenue I think we'd be able to compete just fine.
That doesn't make it a relevant discussion. BG is light years away from the academic profile of the Big 10. They are not even close to big time enough on the sports scene to make the Big 10 presidents over look that academic profile.
Take all of those items away and it STILL is not a realistic discussion. Let's say BG gets a huge endowment and suddenly becomes the premier research institution in the country (not going to happen). On top of that let's say that we have a history of dominating the MAC in football & basketball, multiple trips to the NCAA tourney & maybe even a BCS bowl. Let's go so far as saying that BGSU is the consensus top program in the country (both football & hoops), that is not currently in a BCS conference. All of those things happen, and BG STILL would not be invited to the Big 10 because OSU wouldn't let it happen, and the Big 10 presidents aren't going to piss off OSU.
No, this is not a relevant discussion because it is so far out of the realm of possibility that it isn't worth wasting time talking about.
Let's talk about something that is actually possible. I don't know, how about Cold Fusion?
Do I think it would be awesome? Hell yeah, I like the MAC, but I'd leave for a BCS conference in a heartbeat.
Do I think we could compete there? I don't think we could initially, but once we started getting all that additional revenue I think we'd be able to compete just fine.
That doesn't make it a relevant discussion. BG is light years away from the academic profile of the Big 10. They are not even close to big time enough on the sports scene to make the Big 10 presidents over look that academic profile.
Take all of those items away and it STILL is not a realistic discussion. Let's say BG gets a huge endowment and suddenly becomes the premier research institution in the country (not going to happen). On top of that let's say that we have a history of dominating the MAC in football & basketball, multiple trips to the NCAA tourney & maybe even a BCS bowl. Let's go so far as saying that BGSU is the consensus top program in the country (both football & hoops), that is not currently in a BCS conference. All of those things happen, and BG STILL would not be invited to the Big 10 because OSU wouldn't let it happen, and the Big 10 presidents aren't going to piss off OSU.
No, this is not a relevant discussion because it is so far out of the realm of possibility that it isn't worth wasting time talking about.
Let's talk about something that is actually possible. I don't know, how about Cold Fusion?
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bgsufalcon24
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As a reference, we were 1-1 against Big Ten teams last season. If we had played all 11, we probably would have ended up about around 3-8 or 4-7. Minnesota and Northwestern would've been wins, and then between Iowa, Purdue, and Indiana we would have beaten at least one of them, maybe 2. I don't think we could hang with Wisconsin, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, or Illinois.
Remember that we would be playing half our games against B10 opposition at home in such a scenario, which would be huge. It's one thing going to Happy Valley or Madison, or even to Sparty. Having them come to the Doyt would really benefit us.
Remember that we would be playing half our games against B10 opposition at home in such a scenario, which would be huge. It's one thing going to Happy Valley or Madison, or even to Sparty. Having them come to the Doyt would really benefit us.
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redskins4ever
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what is more likely is Indiana folds their football team. The big ten then takes Miami ohio, NIU,or asks Tennessee to jump ship, WV maybe even, maybe even ND finally joins.
we could speculate all we want, but in the end the big ten would or will add the best revenue generating program that can compete out of the gate. It would take us 5 years min to first benefit from the recruiting gains of being in the 10, just as it would take time if the National Championship were between conference champions.
tough row to hoe, but it would change things....but with a stadium that just recently had decorticated panels fall off, and a library and ice arena with potentially same issues...its not likely...
we could speculate all we want, but in the end the big ten would or will add the best revenue generating program that can compete out of the gate. It would take us 5 years min to first benefit from the recruiting gains of being in the 10, just as it would take time if the National Championship were between conference champions.
tough row to hoe, but it would change things....but with a stadium that just recently had decorticated panels fall off, and a library and ice arena with potentially same issues...its not likely...
I would like to drop Minnesota, Northwestern and Indiana and pick up Notre Dame, West Virginia, and Louisville (or Cincy).
That would be good.
The MAC doesn't have any stadiums big enough to hold the fans that would travel from Michigan, OSU, MSU, or Purdue. Even Wisconsin isn't too terribly far.
BG is too small of a town.
never happen.
quit smoking the ganja...you come up with the weirdest, way out there topics.
You and Globetrotter must be from the same planet.
That would be good.
The MAC doesn't have any stadiums big enough to hold the fans that would travel from Michigan, OSU, MSU, or Purdue. Even Wisconsin isn't too terribly far.
BG is too small of a town.
never happen.
quit smoking the ganja...you come up with the weirdest, way out there topics.
You and Globetrotter must be from the same planet.
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I GET IT NOW!!!!!hammb wrote:It's funny because it sounds like you're saying "Your Anus".h2oville rocket wrote:True. Both of them came out of Uranus, Teke. Wow, two Uranus jokes in one forum on the same day- gotta be a record for me.tekekini wrote: You and Globetrotter must be from the same planet.
ROLL ALONG!!!
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tekekini wrote:I would like to drop Minnesota, Northwestern and Indiana and pick up Notre Dame, West Virginia, and Louisville (or Cincy).
That would be good.
The MAC doesn't have any stadiums big enough to hold the fans that would travel from Michigan, OSU, MSU, or Purdue. Even Wisconsin isn't too terribly far.
BG is too small of a town.
never happen.
quit smoking the ganja...you come up with the weirdest, way out there topics.
You and Globetrotter must be from the same planet.
Why would any conference want Notre Lame?
UC - has a stadium that is not much bigger than anything in the MAC.
Louisville - is not a research institution which is what the Big 10 looks for in their conference members.
Better Choices...
Kentucky, WVU, Syracuse, and Missouri.
Umm, the same reason for everything in college athletics...MONEY. ND has the largest following in the country and it's not even close. They continually put up big TV numbers, have a large following, and they meet the academic profile of the Big 10.redskins4ever wrote: Why would any conference want Notre Lame?
Of course ND has no motivation to join a conference because they currently have exemptions for the BCS that benefit them greatly, and they've also got their own TV contract that brings in far more revenue than they'd get in a conference.
Make no mistake every conference in D1A would kill to add ND.
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ND just renewed their contract with NBC...
Notre Dame agrees to five-year extension with NBC
Associated Press
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- NBC renewed its television contract with Notre Dame football through the 2015 season on Thursday despite the Fighting Irish last year drawing their lowest ratings since the network began broadcasting their games in 1991.
NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol said the network doesn't look at year-to-year results when it comes to Notre Dame, calling the football program a premier brand that defines the network as much as the Olympics, the NFL and the U.S. Open golf championship.
"We're big believers in how Notre Dame time and time again over all these generations has maintained its strength," he said. "I don't see that going away."
Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed, although Ebersol said the contract is a flat fee and not based on ratings. The current contract that expires in 2010 is reported to be worth $9 million a year.
Ebersol said the important thing for Notre Dame, which hasn't won a national championship since 1988, is to be in the race to be a top 10 team in most years "for it to be a wildly successful arrangement."
"We go into this thinking that if the vast majority of the years has Notre Dame competitive in that top 10 or for that top 10 through the majority of the season, then we'll be very happy," he said.
The Irish have finished the season ranked 10th or higher just three times in the 17 years its home games have been televised on NBC -- No. 4 in 1992, No. 2 in 1993 and No. 9 in 2005. They have finished ranked in the Top 25 in seven other seasons and finished .500 or worse five times.
The TV ratings last year, when Notre Dame went 3-9, averaged a 1.9 rating and a five share, down from an average ratings of 3.0 and a seven share in 2006 when they were 10-3 and ranked No. 17 and a 3.6 rating and a nine share in 2005 when they were 9-3 and No. 9. The previous low ratings for Notre Dame football on NBC were 2.4 ratings and six shares in both 2003, when the Irish finished 5-7, and 2001, when they finished 5-6.
Ebersol said he has confidence the new deal will be good for NBC and predicted the network would continue to broadcast Irish games past 2015.
"I have no doubt that over the majority of years going forward this will be a sensational deal for both sides," Ebersol said.
The Rev. John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, said the contract ensures that Irish fans will get to see all eight home games broadcast nationwide.
"That's wonderful for our fans," he said.
Money from NBC contracts have provided $26 million in financial aid for academic scholarships at Notre Dame, Jenkins said.
This contract calls for seven homes games per season and an eighth offsite home game played at a neutral stadium. The offsite game will begin next year against Washington State on Oct. 31, 2009, in San Antonio, Texas.
The only other announced offsite game is against Arizona State in 2013 in Arlington, Texas. The school will also play against unspecified teams at the Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Fla., in 2011 and 2014. The offsite games will be played in prime time while the games at Notre Dame Stadium will be played on Saturday afternoons, Jenkins said.
"We just feel it's very disruptive for our students, for the academic life at the university to have a game at night," Jenkins said. "NBC has always been accommodating to us on that even though their viewership increases as the game gets later."
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
Notre Dame agrees to five-year extension with NBC
Associated Press
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- NBC renewed its television contract with Notre Dame football through the 2015 season on Thursday despite the Fighting Irish last year drawing their lowest ratings since the network began broadcasting their games in 1991.
NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol said the network doesn't look at year-to-year results when it comes to Notre Dame, calling the football program a premier brand that defines the network as much as the Olympics, the NFL and the U.S. Open golf championship.
"We're big believers in how Notre Dame time and time again over all these generations has maintained its strength," he said. "I don't see that going away."
Financial terms of the contract were not disclosed, although Ebersol said the contract is a flat fee and not based on ratings. The current contract that expires in 2010 is reported to be worth $9 million a year.
Ebersol said the important thing for Notre Dame, which hasn't won a national championship since 1988, is to be in the race to be a top 10 team in most years "for it to be a wildly successful arrangement."
"We go into this thinking that if the vast majority of the years has Notre Dame competitive in that top 10 or for that top 10 through the majority of the season, then we'll be very happy," he said.
The Irish have finished the season ranked 10th or higher just three times in the 17 years its home games have been televised on NBC -- No. 4 in 1992, No. 2 in 1993 and No. 9 in 2005. They have finished ranked in the Top 25 in seven other seasons and finished .500 or worse five times.
The TV ratings last year, when Notre Dame went 3-9, averaged a 1.9 rating and a five share, down from an average ratings of 3.0 and a seven share in 2006 when they were 10-3 and ranked No. 17 and a 3.6 rating and a nine share in 2005 when they were 9-3 and No. 9. The previous low ratings for Notre Dame football on NBC were 2.4 ratings and six shares in both 2003, when the Irish finished 5-7, and 2001, when they finished 5-6.
Ebersol said he has confidence the new deal will be good for NBC and predicted the network would continue to broadcast Irish games past 2015.
"I have no doubt that over the majority of years going forward this will be a sensational deal for both sides," Ebersol said.
The Rev. John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, said the contract ensures that Irish fans will get to see all eight home games broadcast nationwide.
"That's wonderful for our fans," he said.
Money from NBC contracts have provided $26 million in financial aid for academic scholarships at Notre Dame, Jenkins said.
This contract calls for seven homes games per season and an eighth offsite home game played at a neutral stadium. The offsite game will begin next year against Washington State on Oct. 31, 2009, in San Antonio, Texas.
The only other announced offsite game is against Arizona State in 2013 in Arlington, Texas. The school will also play against unspecified teams at the Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Fla., in 2011 and 2014. The offsite games will be played in prime time while the games at Notre Dame Stadium will be played on Saturday afternoons, Jenkins said.
"We just feel it's very disruptive for our students, for the academic life at the university to have a game at night," Jenkins said. "NBC has always been accommodating to us on that even though their viewership increases as the game gets later."
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
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