BGSU in the Big 11

[bgsukid]

Why would any conference want Notre Lame?

Umm, the same reason for everything in college athletics...MONEY. ND has the largest following in the country and it's not even close. They continually put up big TV numbers, have a large following, and they meet the academic profile of the Big 10.

Of course ND has no motivation to join a conference because they currently have exemptions for the BCS that benefit them greatly, and they've also got their own TV contract that brings in far more revenue than they'd get in a conference.

Make no mistake every conference in D1A would kill to add ND.

Any conference would love to have Notre Dame, but their TV numbers have been less than spectacular lately. The ratings have progressively gotten worse topped off by last years aweful 1.9 average rating. I was a little surprised to see NBC to sign a five-year extension. They must be really counting on ND making a big turn around because you can put a lot of things on TV and get a 1.9.

As for BG joinig the Big Ten, that's absolutely laughable. Somebody said Ohio State would never let another Ohio school join the conference, well I've got news for you the other 10 schools wouldn't let BG to join either. If the Big Ten were to welcome in a 12th school they would have to bring some sort of benefit to the conference. BG would bring the Big Ten nothing athletically, adademically and it wouldn't open up any new media markets.

[JoeFalcon]

If the Big Ten were to welcome in a 12th school they would have to bring some sort of benefit to the conference. BG would bring the Big Ten nothing athletically, adademically and it wouldn't open up any new media markets.

Our convicted felon count is not close to Big Ten standards, but we're trying our best.

In terms of athletics, our budget is about what it costs for Jim Tressel to get a haircut, so I think we're doing pretty well with what we have to work with. In terms of academics, you can brag about that when over half the athletes in revenue sports aren't majoring in "General Studies" or actually graduate.

Besides, we're joining the SEC anyway.

[bgsukid]

Our convicted felon count is not close to Big Ten standards, but we're trying our best.

In terms of athletics, our budget is about what it costs for Jim Tressel to get a haircut, so I think we're doing pretty well with what we have to work with. In terms of academics, you can brag about that when over half the athletes in revenue sports aren't majoring in "General Studies" or actually graduate.

Besides, we're joining the SEC anyway.

Doing good with what we have to work with is fine, but the topic is BG joining the Big Ten not how well we're doing with our resources. Fact is our resources fall well short of Big Ten standards and like I said we'd bring absolutely nothing to the conference athletically. Now if your plan is to give people more ammunition with which to rip the Big Ten then that'd definitely do the trick.
As for academics that's one area where you're just going to end up looking foolish to try and rip the Big Ten and just shows your bias against them. All 11 universities are ranked in the top 80 in the country and are premier research institutions. Outside of the Ivy League no other conference comes even close to having all their institutions ranked that highly. Northwestern is the third and Michigan is the ninth highest rated universities in a "BCS" conference. Throw BG in the Big Ten and it's the lowest rated university in the conference by a good 50 spots. I doubt the Big Ten would want to hurt their academic reputation like that. One other thing, BG's football APR ranked only ahead of Purdue in the Big Ten.
Hmmm, not sure what joining the SEC would do for us other than getting our head kicked in for eight straight weeks. At least we'd be competitive academically though. On the other hand we're going to have to put in even more work to catch up on the convicted felon front.

[JoeFalcon]

Outside of the Ivy League no other conference comes even close to having all their institutions ranked that highly.

You know, I heard Princeton was actually Maurice Clarett's second choice behind Ohio State.

[tiznow]

Our convicted felon count is not close to Big Ten standards, but we're trying our best.

In terms of athletics, our budget is about what it costs for Jim Tressel to get a haircut, so I think we're doing pretty well with what we have to work with. In terms of academics, you can brag about that when over half the athletes in revenue sports aren't majoring in "General Studies" or actually graduate.

Besides, we're joining the SEC anyway.

Doing good with what we have to work with is fine, but the topic is BG joining the Big Ten not how well we're doing with our resources. Fact is our resources fall well short of Big Ten standards and like I said we'd bring absolutely nothing to the conference athletically. Now if your plan is to give people more ammunition with which to rip the Big Ten then that'd definitely do the trick.
As for academics that's one area where you're just going to end up looking foolish to try and rip the Big Ten and just shows your bias against them. All 11 universities are ranked in the top 80 in the country and are premier research institutions. Outside of the Ivy League no other conference comes even close to having all their institutions ranked that highly. Northwestern is the third and Michigan is the ninth highest rated universities in a "BCS" conference. Throw BG in the Big Ten and it's the lowest rated university in the conference by a good 50 spots. I doubt the Big Ten would want to hurt their academic reputation like that. One other thing, BG's football APR ranked only ahead of Purdue in the Big Ten.
Hmmm, not sure what joining the SEC would do for us other than getting our head kicked in for eight straight weeks. At least we'd be competitive academically though. On the other hand we're going to have to put in even more work to catch up on the convicted felon front.

I happened to see the press conference yesterday of this recruit anouncing he is going to Ohio State. He is from Gateway High School outside of Pittsburgh. He said he was going to "The Univeristy of Ohio State". Maybe they need a U instead of an O on their hats. Based on that press conference, he will do nothing to help the Big 11 and their great academics.

[bgsukid]

You know, I heard Princeton was actually Maurice Clarett's second choice behind Ohio State.

No, but Notre Dame was. Clarett made some dumb decisions in life and probably listened to the wrong people, but contrary to your assumptions he actaully got very good grades in high school. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that although the University of Chicago has no football team anymore and thus are no longer a part of the Big Ten athletically(they do have the first Heisman winner, Jay Berwanger, though) they do still remain a part of the conference academically. In case you're wondering they're the highest rated school in the Big Ten and rated in the top 10 nationally ahead a few Ivy League schools. Like I said, trying to rip on the Big Ten for their academics is only going make you look foolish. The fact that your only retort was another regurgitated Maurice Clarett jab shows you have nothing of substance to disput the Big Ten being far superior academically than all other conferences after the Ivy League.

I happened to see the press conference yesterday of this recruit anouncing he is going to Ohio State. He is from Gateway High School outside of Pittsburgh. He said he was going to "The Univeristy of Ohio State". Maybe they need a U instead of an O on their hats. Based on that press conference, he will do nothing to help the Big 11 and their great academics.

So that makes him stupid? Seriously some of you people just need to get past the hate. The facts speak for themselves about the Big Ten's academic reputation. Would you rip on a kid if he announced he was going to play his college football at "Bowling Green University" or the "University of Bowling Green"? Of course not, you'd laugh it off and say we'll have to straighten him out when he gets on campus and you'd congratulate him on making a great decision. Just browsing some info on that Pittsburgh recruit, Corey Brown, I noticed that he also had offers from Michigan and Notre Dame and he plans on graduating high school early. Sounds like he must be just barely getting by in the classroom. Brilliant deduction on switching the "O" to a "U" by the way. By that rationale I guess the "University of Oregon" should switch up that "O" on their helmet to a "U" since that's apparently what you should do if the word university comes first in your school name. You're really grasping at straws here my friend because if that's the best trash talk you can come up with it'd be best just not to say anything at all.

[tiznow]

You know, I heard Princeton was actually Maurice Clarett's second choice behind Ohio State.

No, but Notre Dame was. Clarett made some dumb decisions in life and probably listened to the wrong people, but contrary to your assumptions he actaully got very good grades in high school. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that although the University of Chicago has no football team anymore and thus are no longer a part of the Big Ten athletically(they do have the first Heisman winner, Jay Berwanger, though) they do still remain a part of the conference academically. In case you're wondering they're the highest rated school in the Big Ten and rated in the top 10 nationally ahead a few Ivy League schools. Like I said, trying to rip on the Big Ten for their academics is only going make you look foolish. The fact that your only retort was another regurgitated Maurice Clarett jab shows you have nothing of substance to disput the Big Ten being far superior academically than all other conferences after the Ivy League.

I happened to see the press conference yesterday of this recruit anouncing he is going to Ohio State. He is from Gateway High School outside of Pittsburgh. He said he was going to "The Univeristy of Ohio State". Maybe they need a U instead of an O on their hats. Based on that press conference, he will do nothing to help the Big 11 and their great academics.

So that makes him stupid? Seriously some of you people just need to get past the hate. The facts speak for themselves about the Big Ten's academic reputation. Would you rip on a kid if he announced he was going to play his college football at "Bowling Green University" or the "University of Bowling Green"? Of course not, you'd laugh it off and say we'll have to straighten him out when he gets on campus and you'd congratulate him on making a great decision. Just browsing some info on that Pittsburgh recruit, Corey Brown, I noticed that he also had offers from Michigan and Notre Dame and he plans on graduating high school early. Sounds like he must be just barely getting by in the classroom. Brilliant deduction on switching the "O" to a "U" by the way. By that rationale I guess the "University of Oregon" should switch up that "O" on their helmet to a "U" since that's apparently what you should do if the word university comes first in your school name. You're really grasping at straws here my friend because if that's the best trash talk you can come up with it'd be best just not to say anything at all.

Wow! I guess we have to be serious. Can't poke fun at OSU. You need to chill a bit.

[MarkL]

Yeah, seriously, the Big 10 does have a great academic reputation. Two of the top five engineering schools (Michigan, Purdue), two of the top ten music schools (Michigan, Indiana), two of the top med schools (Michigan, Ohio State), two of the top architecture schools (Michigan State, Illinois), and I'm not looking anything up here, this is just off the top of my head. If somebody wanted to look it up, they'd probably come up with a screen full of Big 10 finishes in the top 10 or 15 of categories.

And oh, by the way, my top choice for grad school is Purdue. Computer Science there is really good, especially in my area of interest.

[bgsukid]

Wow! I guess we have to be serious. Can't poke fun at OSU. You need to chill a bit.

It's really hard to tell when people are kidding around here because most of the time they say this ignorant crap and they're being serious because of their blind hatred for all things Big Ten.

[tiznow]

Wow! I guess we have to be serious. Can't poke fun at OSU. You need to chill a bit.

It's really hard to tell when people are kidding around here because most of the time they say this ignorant crap and they're being serious because of their blind hatred for all things Big Ten.

I can see where my post could have been taken serious. I should have used emoticons. The only blind hatred I have is for the Indianapolis Colts.

[buffaloefalcon]

I really could care any less about the Big 11, my question was geared towards the possible, hypothetical growth of BGSU. For goodness sakes, this IS A FORUM and if you don't like the darn question, ignore it! Move on to something else. Some people obviously found it intersting to engage in COMMUNICATION. And no I don't smoke anything!

[CapitalFalcon]

Umm, the same reason for everything in college athletics...MONEY. ND has the largest following in the country and it's not even close. They continually put up big TV numbers, have a large following, and they meet the academic profile of the Big 10.

Of course ND has no motivation to join a conference because they currently have exemptions for the BCS that benefit them greatly, and they've also got their own TV contract that brings in far more revenue than they'd get in a conference.

Make no mistake every conference in D1A would kill to add ND.

OK...Now that was funny....But with regard to the topic at hand...It would have had a lot more merit if after the Urban experience, we continued to kick-ass and take names, won a couple MACCs, and completely dominated the MAC since then...But we haven't so I agree with Hammb...We'll join the MAC one the Big Ten starts playing football on Mars...