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Herbbie just put Pitt on upset alert this weekend.

Beware the Falcons and Tyler Sheehan he said.
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s**t. We're doomed.
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I'm always pessimistic about any team being led by Gregg Brandon, but the upset alert is justified in this case.

Mainly I think big road games at BCS teams is about the only time that coach Brandon has consistently had the team ready to play. We've shown at OSU, OU, Purdue, Wisconsin, etc, that we can come out and play with anybody and at least keep the game close. Even the BC game wasn't bad till late in the first half Tyler just fell apart.

Secondly I think this Pitt team is insanely overrated. Yes, their RB is a true stud, and will likely put up 2 bills on our defense. Yes, they've got a good front 7 on defense. Outside of that they're bringing back a QB that hasn't played competitive football since the first game last year. Their WRs don't scare me that much either. I think their OL is a similar questionmark to ours. Their secondary can be beaten as well. The fact is this team is insanely overrated because of a win against WVU late last season. Before that time they were preparing to fire their coach and they'd been a disappointment all year. That fact doesn't change in my mind just because they won one big game last year.

This will definitely be a tough test for BG, and I don't think we'll win. But I also don't think we should get blown out, unless we completely don't show up. Pitt is a beatable BCS team, and I expect us to go into their house and play them tight. This team is too talented to lay down and get blown out by mid tier BCS teams.
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Beware the Falcons and Tyler Sheehan he said.


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hammb wrote: This team is too talented to lay down and get blown out by mid tier BCS teams.
Except Pitt isn't a mid-tier BCS team. They're ranked in the Top 25 and are coming off a win vs. the then-#2 team in the country, West Virginia, who went on to obliterate Oklahoma in their BCS bowl.
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JoeFalcon wrote:
hammb wrote: This team is too talented to lay down and get blown out by mid tier BCS teams.
Except Pitt isn't a mid-tier BCS team. They're ranked in the Top 25 and are coming off a win vs. the then-#2 team in the country, West Virginia, who went on to obliterate Oklahoma in their BCS bowl.
As I said. Pitt is way overrated and IS (in my opinion) a mid tier BCS team. They were a pedestrian 5-7 last year. Unlike the rest of the world I refuse to let my opinion of them be shaped purely by one good game against WVU. A game that was in large part an effort to save their head coach's job.

They got demolished by UCONN & UVA last year. They also lost to Navy and a Louisville team that was well below expectations.

As I said they're a mediocre team with a tremendous tailback. I don't expect to win, and I think the spread of 13 is probably pretty close to right. Still, if we cannot keep this game within 10 points I'll be disappointed because I just don't think this Pitt team is that great. If they go on to a great season then I'll change my tune, but right now this looks like a mediocre team that overachieved to win one big game. They are bringing back a QB that was better than last year's starter, but there should be some rust given his injury and having to sit out an entire year.
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hammb wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote:
hammb wrote: This team is too talented to lay down and get blown out by mid tier BCS teams.
Except Pitt isn't a mid-tier BCS team. They're ranked in the Top 25 and are coming off a win vs. the then-#2 team in the country, West Virginia, who went on to obliterate Oklahoma in their BCS bowl.
As I said. Pitt is way overrated and IS (in my opinion) a mid tier BCS team. They were a pedestrian 5-7 last year. Unlike the rest of the world I refuse to let my opinion of them be shaped purely by one good game against WVU. A game that was in large part an effort to save their head coach's job.

They got demolished by UCONN & UVA last year. They also lost to Navy and a Louisville team that was well below expectations.

As I said their a mediocre team with a tremendous tailback. I don't expect to win, and I think the spread of 13 is probably pretty close to right. Still, if we cannot keep this game within 10 points I'll be disappointed because I just don't think this Pitt team is that great. If they go on to a great season then I'll change my tune, but right now this looks like a mediocre team that overachieved to win one big game. They are bringing back a QB that was better than last year's starter, but there should be some rust given his injury and having to sit out an entire year.
I think you're underestimating Pitt's talent level. Wannstedt has done an amazing job recruiting, and they were very hard-hit by injuries last year.

I think Pitt is a legitimate top-25 team, and will win the Big East. That's not to say we can't beat them - I think the rusty QB factor could be huge.
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The thing about WVU is that it wasn't just "one good game." It was a victory against a team that had their ticket punched for the national championship game; the culmination of a long coming together process over the course of a rocky season where 4 losses were by a touchdown or less. As the Pitt fans have said, Wanny has put together stellar national recruiting classes, and this is Year 4.

To me, that adds up to more than mid tier. We shall see. Personally, I'd like to be opening up with a I-AA like Central and Eastern Michigan instead of a Top 25 team on the road.
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I don't deny they have talent, probably top 25 talent. I don't buy that they're a top 25 team until I see them actually get something out of that talent. I don't trust Wanndstedt to do that anymore than I expect Brandon to get anything out of his talent here.

Until they actually build upon that WVU win by showing something this year I'm not buying that it was this "culmination of a long coming together process" or anything. Leading up to that game they had lost 3 of their last 4 and the lone victory was a close game against a Syracuse team that would've struggled to win 4 games in the MAC.

Maybe they were bitten harder by injuries than I give them credit for, losing your top QB certainly hurts, but I'm not jumping on their bandwagon because of what was, essentially, one good game. Yeah it was against a national title hopeful, but it was still just one game.

They've got talent, but they've never shown the ability to put it together. As I said, if we get blown out and they go on to a great season I'll be happy to shrug it off as losing to a great team. But right now, I just don't see where they're this powerhouse of a team. Although the Big East is pretty crappy so they've got as good of a chance as any to win the conference.
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JoeFalcon wrote:The thing about WVU is that it wasn't just "one good game." It was a victory against a team that had their ticket punched for the national championship game; the culmination of a long coming together process over the course of a rocky season where 4 losses were by a touchdown or less. As the Pitt fans have said, Wanny has put together stellar national recruiting classes, and this is Year 4.

To me, that adds up to more than mid tier. We shall see. Personally, I'd like to be opening up with a I-AA like Central and Eastern Michigan instead of a Top 25 team on the road.
So I guess Stanford is a good team, y'know, since they beat USC that one time...
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JoeFalcon wrote:The thing about WVU is that it wasn't just "one good game." It was a victory against a team that had their ticket punched for the national championship game; the culmination of a long coming together process over the course of a rocky season where 4 losses were by a touchdown or less. As the Pitt fans have said, Wanny has put together stellar national recruiting classes, and this is Year 4.

To me, that adds up to more than mid tier. We shall see. Personally, I'd like to be opening up with a I-AA like Central and Eastern Michigan instead of a Top 25 team on the road.
The ONLY reason Pitt won that game was because they injured Pat White. In all of WV's losses in the past two years except for Louisville 2006, Pat White has been injured. If the Pitt D didn't screw up his leg, it would have been a multiple possession WV win.

And as for recruiting - yes he's recruiting great. As for being close to being great - they've been close to great for several years. I expect this year to be the same as in 2006 and 2007 ... "THIS is the year that Pitt finally wins. Last year was just a fluke, they've got great talent, they'll get it right THIS year." I could be wrong, but I'd pick Pitt to just have another disappointing year and look forward to 2009 and say "2009 will be the year for Pitt ... "
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If I may:

Wanny was given a contract extension days BEFORE the WVU game, not after it... So, essentially, they were NOT playing for their coaches job..

Pat White missed the 3d quarter and some of the 4th, but what many people in America fail to realize is that they ran 3 or 4 offensive series in that span; I believe they only had one possession in the entire 3d quarter... So even if PW was healthy, he, along w/ the rest of the offense, would have been on the sideline...

And if you want to use PW's injury as an excuse, Pitt didn't have their starting QB for 11.5 games....

Pitt beat 10-2 Cincy last year...

Wanny's first recruiting class, ranked top 15 in the country, are now RS sophs and Juniors, his recruiting class in 2007, top 10 in the county, are RS frosh and sophs (18 RS frosh who havent seen the field in the 8th ranked class) and 2008's class was top 25 w/ a 6'6, 4.4- 40, 40 in verticle, 5 star wide reciever, (Jon Baldwin, watch for him)...

However, while Pitt is getting much media attention, they realize that they need to take it one game at a time... DW isn't letting them buy into the hype that you are correctly pointing out, so their saying on their shirts: "PROVE IT"....

This should be a very fun game; for those attending, enjoy Heinz Field, the weather, the rib festival outside the stadium, and the city...
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the most impressive thing about Pitt in that game was their ability to overcome the obvious hosing by the refs...that was remember the titans bad. I think the entire world, outside of wv, was pulling for you guys when they saw that travesty.
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JoeFalcon wrote:
hammb wrote: This team is too talented to lay down and get blown out by mid tier BCS teams.
Except Pitt isn't a mid-tier BCS team. They're ranked in the Top 25 and are coming off a win vs. the then-#2 team in the country, West Virginia, who went on to obliterate Oklahoma in their BCS bowl.
They were ranked #9 in the country when Toledo beat them in 2003, and they lost to Ohio the following year. BG has a good shot in this game, as you guys normally play BCS schools tough because of your offense.

Good luck tomorrow guys. So far the MAC is looking very good, except for that Miami loss to Vandy.
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i was just happy that we finally got a mention of an upset alert esp from herbstreit.
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