Ryan's Sept 01 blog...

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:29 pm

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... /809010253

Gotta say I think Hodges and Geter should still be sitting...I know I dont have ALL the info on the situation, but man...credit card fraud is not country slow pitch softball...

always a falcon · Post by **always a falcon** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:09 pm

Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:07 pm

always a falcon wrote:Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

grrrr.....

And I think they should sit too.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:09 pm

always a falcon wrote:Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

Well everyone was young and stupid once...

**hiding**

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:11 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:
always a falcon wrote:Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

Well everyone was young and stupid once...

**hiding**

Are you speaking from experience?

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:14 pm

Falcon Fanatic wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote:
always a falcon wrote:Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

Well everyone was young and stupid once...

**hiding**

Are you speaking from experience?

Cast ye not stones, oh ye who married BGFan.

tiznow · Post by **tiznow** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:01 am

I know we do not know the whole story, but i agree with Flipper, fraud is what it is.

Lewis played great and should be MAC Player on D.

freefalcon · Post by **freefalcon** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:34 am

What exactly are the 3 being charged??

Is it fraud or a misdemeanor offense in this case??

Big difference in the eye of the law.

footballguy51 · Post by **footballguy51** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:48 am

Regardless, only suspending them for 1 game seems pointless. I doubt the players were taught any lessons by that.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:08 am

1 game is really light for what appears to be credit card fraud. I was disappointed when the initial suspension was only 1 game and now I am disappointed that GB didn't think it warranted further action.

free - I think they were charged with misuse of a credit card, a first degree misdemeanor.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:27 am

One game only?

Ick. So, this is what it means to be a "player's coach." They would be punished more if they were sent to bed w/o dessert.

Granted [or granite if you're an idiot], I don't know the details surrounding the incident, but my spidey sense is not treating me well right now. There's something smelly about all of this.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:52 am

Nothing to add really. It's not a severe enough punishment. Especially not in light of the other issues we've had this offseason. Zero tolerance should be the message. I'm sorry, but I'm not into second chances when we've had multiple incidents in such a short stretch. The team should've been told that their teammates already used their second chance.

We'll be a better team on Saturday with Geter on the field, but will we be a better team for it down the road?

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:01 am

always a falcon wrote:Flip- I agree. If someone called you up in the middle of the night and wanted you to drive them to Meier to use a stolen credit card and you did....I would think that would at least get another game for stupidity and lack of leadership let alone the whole legal issue

We did just fine without him at PItt and I'd rather do without him just fine this week, too.

AND if one more person says, "well everyone was young and stupid once, " I might barf. I was young, maybe stupid, but I did not steal or help anyone steal anthing.
But then I'm older than dirt and Falcon Fanatic so what do I know.

Didn't know that ANYONE was older than Falcon Fanatic! (OK, so I'm the 2nd oldest Azzer by my measure, Right Mr. Hamilton?)

Falcon137 · Post by **Falcon137** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:29 am

Perhaps we don't know the whole story behind this. If we do the punishment seems light.

freefalcon · Post by **freefalcon** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:41 pm

If they are being charged with a first degree misdemeanor then perhaps 1 game is right.

With that said, my response is where is the leadership on the team?? Two upper class man (along with being potential starters) should have stopped this situation at the beginning. I guess I am more disappointed in this area...one of the three (really all three) should have known that it was wrong.

Without knowing all the particulars (reading the police gave me enough information to form my decision) I too feel that it was a very lite punishment.

Time to move on. The decision was made and opinions were expressed. I just hope this stupid stuff stops and not screw up what can be a great season.