The Brandon Coaching Clinic

[1987alum]

To only lose by 13 and shut them out in the second half is something to feel good about.

Not too many opponents fair better in Boise.

But last time I checked, Brandon does not carry the ball or throw it.

Then why even have a head coach? As you point out, they have absolutely no effect on the outcome of a game. We must be out of our mind to pay this guy 6 figures when he just stands on the sideline all game long doing nothing.

I still think we should be close to the favorite in the East. If we can just eliminate the stupid turnovers and penalties, I think we'll be tough to beat.

In the middle ground ... a coach's job is teach the players what they need to know, then put them in a position (through playcalling, etc.) to succeed. After that, it's up to the players. Now, good coaches continue to adapt and adjust, so it's not always so simple.

J4H: To your last point - agreed. Sloppy turnovers will kill us, but if we can put a stop to that, we will be as good as any team in the MAC.

[poorlycoachedbgsu]

This team has tons of veterans and pretty good talent and Brandon and his staff are cr##ping the bed. Dumb penalties, turnovers, continual shooting themselves int he foot, lack of confidence, etc. Just some common traits of poorly coached programs. sorry coach but you blow.

1st post, eh? How about you submit your coaching resume for the HC gig?

This has been a very challenging non conference sked and everybody here knew it. I don't think anyone predicted BG to be 4-0 after the 1st month of the season.

I didn't see a lack of confidence against Boise State...we played tough and with heart in one of the most hostile places anywhere. You want to see a lack of confidence? Look to UCLA...I watched them get totally destroyed by BYU, 59-0.

Did the coaches make mistakes? Yeah, absolutely.

Let's look at another team with tons of veterans and a hell of a lot of talent...yes, the Ohio State Buckeyes, who got their asses handed to them in front of a national tv audience AGAIN. Hell, they should have lost to Ohio U.

won't submit my resume for HC b/c i am not a coach. but there are definitely much better candidates out there who should. this team has some problems well coached teams don't have. anyone can see there are execution, mental and turnover breakdowns.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

This team has tons of veterans and pretty good talent and Brandon and his staff are cr##ping the bed. Dumb penalties, turnovers, continual shooting themselves int he foot, lack of confidence, etc. Just some common traits of poorly coached programs. sorry coach but you blow.

1st post, eh? How about you submit your coaching resume for the HC gig?

This has been a very challenging non conference sked and everybody here knew it. I don't think anyone predicted BG to be 4-0 after the 1st month of the season.

I didn't see a lack of confidence against Boise State...we played tough and with heart in one of the most hostile places anywhere. You want to see a lack of confidence? Look to UCLA...I watched them get totally destroyed by BYU, 59-0.

Did the coaches make mistakes? Yeah, absolutely.

Let's look at another team with tons of veterans and a hell of a lot of talent...yes, the Ohio State Buckeyes, who got their asses handed to them in front of a national tv audience AGAIN. Hell, they should have lost to Ohio U.

won't submit my resume for HC b/c i am not a coach. but there are definitely much better candidates out there who should. this team has some problems well coached teams don't have. anyone can see there are execution, mental and turnover breakdowns.

Which ones would accept what Brandon makes?

The bottom line is we're not going to get a coaching staff that doesn't have these glaring deficiencies unless we commit to that goal monetarily. I'm firmly in the "Brandon is a sub-par head coach but would be a great OC" crowd, but he has made some improvements in key areas over the past few years. All we can do is hope that he continues to improve, because he's going to be here a while.

[1987alum]

Which ones would accept what Brandon makes?

The bottom line is we're not going to get a coaching staff that doesn't have these glaring deficiencies unless we commit to that goal monetarily. I'm firmly in the "Brandon is a sub-par head coach but would be a great OC" crowd, but he has made some improvements in key areas over the past few years. All we can do is hope that he continues to improve, because he's going to be here a while.

That may be the most pro-Brandon post J4H has ever made!

Says a lot, too.

poorlycoachedbgsu ... by choosing that screen name and using your first post to flame away at the coaching staff, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

this board is full of "fire Brandon" threads, but they typically carry more heft than "sorry coach but you blow".

Another voice in the discussion is always welcome, but it would be more readily received if it weren't so shrill.

[poorlycoachedbgsu]

Which ones would accept what Brandon makes?

The bottom line is we're not going to get a coaching staff that doesn't have these glaring deficiencies unless we commit to that goal monetarily. I'm firmly in the "Brandon is a sub-par head coach but would be a great OC" crowd, but he has made some improvements in key areas over the past few years. All we can do is hope that he continues to improve, because he's going to be here a while.

That may be the most pro-Brandon post J4H has ever made!

Says a lot, too.

poorlycoachedbgsu ... by choosing that screen name and using your first post to flame away at the coaching staff, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

this board is full of "fire Brandon" threads, but they typically carry more heft than "sorry coach but you blow".

Another voice in the discussion is always welcome, but it would be more readily received if it weren't so shrill.

well obviously if my first post concerns the poor coaching staff i am serious enought about it to prioritize it. i guess i could have started with the post "hi gang i'm lenny and our ball security needs some improvement!" but that would be quite as poignant now would it. again the bottom line is well coached teams do not have the untimely penalties, breakdowns bgsu does which have killed bgsu in 2 games.

[FortWayneFalcon]

With a name like poorlycoachedBGSU you surely don't intend to hang around here. So go squeeze your posts on your favorite OSU board where I'm sure they'll be hanging coach Tressel for the rest of this season.
I like the roller coaster.

[Rollo83]

I subscribe to the Paul Krebs theory of going out and finding a young, up-and-coming assistant at a "major" program to lead your football team. That's what he did with Urban Meyer. Sure, if he is that good you'll only have him for a few short years but he'll breed success in the program. And, they'll come to BG for our salary to get their head coaching start.

Miami has gotten the title "craddle of coaches" for decades for being a training ground for coaches that move on to bigger and better things. The guys like Joe Novak that stay at one MAC school for 20+ years are far and few in between. Hell, if Novak had been at BG he'd never survived his early years which were down right horrible for more than a decade.

[1987alum]

well obviously if my first post concerns the poor coaching staff i am serious enought about it to prioritize it.

Or bitter with an axe to grind

again the bottom line is well coached teams do not have the untimely penalties, breakdowns bgsu does which have killed bgsu in 2 games.

There are many great coaches who have had teams that have had untimely penalties and other breakdowns. Seems a well-respected coach in central Ohio went on the road and watch his team have breakdown after breakdown. Bottom line, it happens to the best of them.

[h2oville rocket]

Seems a well-respected coach in central Ohio went on the road and watch his team have breakdown after breakdown. Bottom line, it happens to the best of them.

Yeah, I hated to see that happen to Solich but Wyoming is tough at home.

[1987alum]

Seems a well-respected coach in central Ohio went on the road and watch his team have breakdown after breakdown. Bottom line, it happens to the best of them.

Yeah, I hated to see that happen to Solich but Wyoming is tough at home.

It was a pity, really.

[poorlycoachedbgsu]

well obviously if my first post concerns the poor coaching staff i am serious enought about it to prioritize it.

Or bitter with an axe to grind

again the bottom line is well coached teams do not have the untimely penalties, breakdowns bgsu does which have killed bgsu in 2 games.

There are many great coaches who have had teams that have had untimely penalties and other breakdowns. Seems a well-respected coach in central Ohio went on the road and watch his team have breakdown after breakdown. Bottom line, it happens to the best of them.

bitter with an axe to grind? nice job getting personal there buddy. i'm just expressing my opinion. and why are you so defensive on behalf of brandon. you were not the one being denigrated. and on the penalties and breakdowns.... yes other coaches have them but not like this one. this team is too experienced and talented to be making these mistakes. comparing brandon to tressel? thats a good one. tressel runs an elite (incredible) program and his team RARELY makes stupid mistakes. they just choke in big games, but at least he gets them there. brandon would piss himself in tressel's shoes.

[Warthog]

My one comment here is that I think the turnovers in the fourth quarter are directly related to conditioning. Tired players lose focus and drop the ball. So I guess you could lay the fumbles on the coach for that reason.

[1987alum]

bitter with an axe to grind? nice job getting personal there buddy.

Nothing personal, simply putting another option out there.

i'm just expressing my opinion.

Have at it. Would be nice if it were something deeper than, "you blow."

and why are you so defensive on behalf of brandon. you were not the one being denigrated.

Everyone has an opinion of Brandon. Mine happens to be largely positive. If you are allowed to bash him, it only makes sense that other should be expected to defend him.

and on the penalties and breakdowns.... yes other coaches have them but not like this one. this team is too experienced and talented to be making these mistakes.

I will respectfully disagree.

comparing brandon to tressel? thats a good one. tressel runs an elite (incredible) program and his team RARELY makes stupid mistakes. they just choke in big games, but at least he gets them there. brandon would piss himself in tressel's shoes.

Maybe so. Simply showing that a talented and experienced team can make the same mistakes for which you are criticizing the Falcons, actually, Coach Brandon.

And I'm not so sure that Brandon couldn't have coached that Buckeyes team to a four TD beating against USC.

Warthog: Interesting thought there ... I've seen the Falcons conditioning program in action and would be surprised if they aren't, by and large, in great shape. But the time change, long trip, etc. may have taken a toll.

[BGGrad01]

this team is too experienced and talented to be making these mistakes. comparing brandon to tressel? thats a good one. tressel runs an elite (incredible) program and his team RARELY makes stupid mistakes. they just choke in big games, but at least he gets them there. brandon would piss himself in tressel's shoes.

Yep, Jimmy gets the Bucks to the big games without any help from the players and then the players lose the big games all by themselves. You sound like a Buckeye fan that thinks Tressel can walk on the Olentangy. Talk him up all you want, OSU is not that far behind Florida, LSU, and USC (in terms of talent) to lose by those margins.

No matter how experienced or talented, you're going to see mistakes throughout the season. Unfortunately, BG's have been prominent in the last two games. I think most of that will be fixed through practice and playing weaker opponents.

Regarding OSU's lack of stupid mistakes - have you watched them this season?

[Flipper]

Why would Gregg Brandon pee in Tressel's shoes? That doesn't sound like the kind of prank one should pull...