BCS Busters

[Globetrotter]

I thought it would be fun to track the potential BCS busters this year.

So far we have
8 Brigham Young 4-0 1098 11 @ Utah State/vs New Mexico
15 Utah 5-0 713 17 v Oregon State/@ Wyoming
17 Boise State 3(4)-0 549 19 v La Tech w/@ Southern Mississippi
(22 Fresno State 3-1 232 25)


If more than one team was put into the BCS and was not a BCS school the BCS schools would be forced to start playing these schools more often and ideally, at their home more often. Programs would be built.

This is added to my standard for the NCAA having a level playing field and helping teams build programs.

1. Mandate 6 home games and 6 away games. (This would help allow the non BCS schools to build their fan bases)
2. Allow early signing of letter of intent...all the way into the Junior year. (This would lead to more players slipping through the cracks by having big senior years.)
3. Mandate that if 2 Non BCS schools are undefeated and ranked within the top 12 they are in the BCS.

[tekekini]

Keep dreaming.

Hawaii ruined the chances for 2 to get in after they got demolished last year. Only one has a chance to get in. They aren't going to get a true powerhouse to come to their house EVER. They can get the Minnesota's or the Oregon States because they are immitations of a BCS school. They ge to enjoy the benefits but they don't belong. That is the best that a non BCS school can attract. If they do draw a true powerhouse, it will be at a nuetral location (see OSU @ UT in Cleveland or OSU @ cincy at paul Brown).

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

[BGGrad01]

...Oregon States because they are immitations of a BCS school.

Oregon State 27
USC 21

Ohio State 3
USC 35

I'm just saying.

To GT's points:
1. Unfortunately not a chance. Too much money lost.
2. ** Edited upon a second read ** There may be some merit to this, but I think you would have a bunch of kids that wanted out of their commitments after the big boys came calling. Do we really want unhappy kids on campus?
3. Agree with this one. If you can win all 12 games against FBS schools, then you deserve a shot in the BCS.

[Globetrotter]

Keep dreaming.

Hawaii ruined the chances for 2 to get in after they got demolished last year. Only one has a chance to get in. They aren't going to get a true powerhouse to come to their house EVER. They can get the Minnesota's or the Oregon States because they are immitations of a BCS school. They ge to enjoy the benefits but they don't belong. That is the best that a non BCS school can attract. If they do draw a true powerhouse, it will be at a nuetral location (see OSU @ UT in Cleveland or OSU @ cincy at paul Brown).

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

So Hawaii getting demolished ruined the chances? What has OSU getting demolished by LSU and Florida done for the Big Ten and OSU.

[redskins4ever]

Once again Bikini Boy shows his ignorance about the situation.

[Strouse]

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

Seeing as how this is a forum where DISCUSSION is made...it seems pertinent that discussion of this topic would be made here. You might not like to hear about it, and if that's the case then simply not read it. No one is forcing you to read these topics that you tend to complain about. The rest of us who post, however appear to find it interesting to discuss such things because we all (well most of us) tend to like to think outside the box.

As for discussion actually pertaining to this topic...
I would love to see several non-bcs teams make it to the big bowl games come december, however unless the "big boys" falter and falter hard AND there are several non-bcs teams who are undefeated, there's little chance that more than one will make it up there. The current system in place just makes it damn near impossible for that to happen otherwise.

[tekekini]

Keep dreaming.

Hawaii ruined the chances for 2 to get in after they got demolished last year. Only one has a chance to get in. They aren't going to get a true powerhouse to come to their house EVER. They can get the Minnesota's or the Oregon States because they are immitations of a BCS school. They ge to enjoy the benefits but they don't belong. That is the best that a non BCS school can attract. If they do draw a true powerhouse, it will be at a nuetral location (see OSU @ UT in Cleveland or OSU @ cincy at paul Brown).

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

So Hawaii getting demolished ruined the chances? What has OSU getting demolished by LSU and Florida done for the Big Ten and OSU.

It hasn't done anything for the big ten..it has only ruined OSU's chance to play in a national title game for 1 year. When OSU wins the big ten they will STILL play in a BCS game.
BCS game...the point of the thread right?

idiot.

[tekekini]

...Oregon States because they are immitations of a BCS school.

Oregon State 27
USC 21

Ohio State 3
USC 35

I'm just saying.

To GT's points:
1. Unfortunately not a chance. Too much money lost.
2. ** Edited upon a second read ** There may be some merit to this, but I think you would have a bunch of kids that wanted out of their commitments after the big boys came calling. Do we really want unhappy kids on campus?
3. Agree with this one. If you can win all 12 games against FBS schools, then you deserve a shot in the BCS.

That is what USC does...look at history..they always lose to Oregon State or Stanford and neither Stanford or Oregon State ever make a bowl game (maybe once in a while but they are not consistent). you know damn well that USC only shows for the big games and they ALWAYS have the let down. You're an idiot if you think otherwise. look at their recent history. At the end of the year they murder someone in a bowl game and everybody says how they would be national champs if they didn't get screwed out of a chance. \

Bottom line is that Oregon State is a joke and followed up by gettting beat by Utah. Where does Oregon State finish every year? What did Penn State do to Oregon State? I guess that means that the big ten would dominate the Pac 10 according to your logic. Wait until you see what OSU does to Penn state. OSU by 20 in the shoe. Just wait.

Morons.

[tekekini]

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

Seeing as how this is a forum where DISCUSSION is made...it seems pertinent that discussion of this topic would be made here. You might not like to hear about it, and if that's the case then simply not read it. No one is forcing you to read these topics that you tend to complain about. The rest of us who post, however appear to find it interesting to discuss such things because we all (well most of us) tend to like to think outside the box.

As for discussion actually pertaining to this topic...
I would love to see several non-bcs teams make it to the big bowl games come december, however unless the "big boys" falter and falter hard AND there are several non-bcs teams who are undefeated, there's little chance that more than one will make it up there. The current system in place just makes it damn near impossible for that to happen otherwise.

you people have discussed this a million times and it always comes to the same conclusion- not going to happen.

it is a waste of space discussion at this point.

[Strouse]

NCAA will never mandate it so why do you continue to waste your time trying to open this discussion.

End it now.

Seeing as how this is a forum where DISCUSSION is made...it seems pertinent that discussion of this topic would be made here. You might not like to hear about it, and if that's the case then simply not read it. No one is forcing you to read these topics that you tend to complain about. The rest of us who post, however appear to find it interesting to discuss such things because we all (well most of us) tend to like to think outside the box.

As for discussion actually pertaining to this topic...
I would love to see several non-bcs teams make it to the big bowl games come december, however unless the "big boys" falter and falter hard AND there are several non-bcs teams who are undefeated, there's little chance that more than one will make it up there. The current system in place just makes it damn near impossible for that to happen otherwise.

you people have discussed this a million times and it always comes to the same conclusion- not going to happen.

it is a waste of space discussion at this point.

Why don't you leave that up to the moderators to decide that as that is what they are there for

[tekekini]

the moderators on this board are worthless. They don't do anything.

If they did, I would have been banned a long time ago.

[MarkL]

Thanks Tek for realizing what we all know. And moderators please take note and action if you could.

Back to the point ... Non-BCS teams are 2-1 in BCS bowls. Hawaii didn't ruin anybody's chances, but they proved that Hawaii just was never as good as 06 Boise and 04 Utah. Those teams' defenses were excellent and their offenses were balanced enough to hang points like crazy on good defenses. That reminds me very much of both Utah and BYU this year. Those two play each other and can't say the date off the top of my head right now, but the winner of that, as long as they stay undefeated, will be in a BCS bowl deservingly. The loser, if they go 11-1, would probably deserve a bid too but unfortunately wouldn't get one in this system.

I genuinely believe that the possibility is there, albeit a very long shot, of BYU making it to the title game. If they finish undefeated and the right things happen in the Big 12, Pac 10, and SEC, it could happen, but that would be a very long shot. I just can't see any BCS teams beating UCLA 59-0 like BYU did.

[San Fran Falcon]

the moderators on this board are worthless. They don't do anything.

If they did, I would have been banned a long time ago.

moderators....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

[Falconfreak90]

Fresno State is outta the picture now...losing to 21 pt underdog HI at home last night.

[redskins4ever]

Fresno State wasn't in the race to begin with...

Its really between Utah and BYU and the best thing to happen will be both to be undefeated going into the last game.

I wouldn't mind seeing an undefeated Tulsa take on an Undefeated Ball State.