BRANDON STAYING AT BGSU!!
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Coach Brandon probably considered the following:
1. No football coach at UNLV has ever won there. Ever- on a consisitent basis.
2. UNLV's league isn't BCS and won't be BCS.
3. Gregg Brandon has a youngster in the family to consider and BG is quite a fine place (in the eyes of many) to raise a family.
4. The money is a good increase, but it is not huge HUGE money and what is the job security down the road?- in case he becomes about the fifth coach in a row to fail to turn around UNLV football.
I don't mean Gregg Brandon will not someday be offered a job he may take- I just don't believe UNLV was ever that job.
Just my opinion. Now go Falcons, beat Memphis and sign 20 great players.
Go Falcons!
1. No football coach at UNLV has ever won there. Ever- on a consisitent basis.
2. UNLV's league isn't BCS and won't be BCS.
3. Gregg Brandon has a youngster in the family to consider and BG is quite a fine place (in the eyes of many) to raise a family.
4. The money is a good increase, but it is not huge HUGE money and what is the job security down the road?- in case he becomes about the fifth coach in a row to fail to turn around UNLV football.
I don't mean Gregg Brandon will not someday be offered a job he may take- I just don't believe UNLV was ever that job.
Just my opinion. Now go Falcons, beat Memphis and sign 20 great players.
Go Falcons!
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I was referring to this article in the Tampa Tribune where Larry Fedora is referred to as a hot coaching commodity who could stay in Florida. The DC apparently coached with Urban in the past.OptionQB wrote:From my understanding, the entire staff including OC Ed Zaunbrecher were fired when Ron Zook was let go. Besides, Zook is going to offered the Illinois job tomorrow by published reports and I'm sure Mr. Zaunbrecher would be quite welcome in the Champaign-Urbana area.
http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGBMDJ1KC2E.html
Not Huge Money?
I'm a little confused on what huge money is. He's making around $150,000 now. If he coached here for another ten years, that's 1.5 million. Now if he took the job the pays $600,000 a year a UNLV and coached for three years and failed, he just made 1.8 million dollars in three years. How much money is Huge money to you? We live in Bowling Green, Ohio. That's a ton of money to live a nice lifestyle.
To correct myself, Ed Zaunbrecher was an OC under Spurrier, I believe, however, he is the current (at least through the Peach Bowl) coach at UF. Fedora is indeed the OC currently.
One could make the argument that with BG's attendance problems and let's face it, difficult schedule, next year could be a GREAT year or one that maybe doesn't exactly put Gregg Brandon in the major national spotlight.
However, if he were to go to Florida . . . Be an offensive coordinator and with a returning Ciatrick Faison have a LEGIT national championship contender, perhaps that may get his name more recognition than the good 'ol boys at Bowling Green.
It still takes $500,000 to get him there, unless there's a provision that he only needs to buy it out to become a head coach . . . Regardless, I can honestly say . . . that I'm not the first one to come up with this theory . . . It has been wondered aloud by several others and I will leave it at that.
One could make the argument that with BG's attendance problems and let's face it, difficult schedule, next year could be a GREAT year or one that maybe doesn't exactly put Gregg Brandon in the major national spotlight.
However, if he were to go to Florida . . . Be an offensive coordinator and with a returning Ciatrick Faison have a LEGIT national championship contender, perhaps that may get his name more recognition than the good 'ol boys at Bowling Green.
It still takes $500,000 to get him there, unless there's a provision that he only needs to buy it out to become a head coach . . . Regardless, I can honestly say . . . that I'm not the first one to come up with this theory . . . It has been wondered aloud by several others and I will leave it at that.
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I hate to be the one to say "I told you so," but.......I told you so! 
Attendance problems aside, Brandon isn't going to go to Florida to be and OC. That would be a step down, I don't care where you are going. Look at what happened with UNLV. They were looking for a head coach with head coaching experience, and that is why they were interested in Gregg Brandon. Even if you are at a Subelt Conf. school, it is still more valuable to be a head coach than an OC. There is so much more involved to being a HC than a coordinator (scheme, recruiting, motivation, etc., etc.). Brandon's stock will be much higher if he stays here and puts another winner on the field.
And as far as the money goes, yes $600,000 is a lot of money, but it is not as much as Brandon could be making in a year or two. Because most of us around here will probably never see $600,000 in our lives, we begin drooling at it and think that it is a foregone conclusion that everyone else will as well. But, for someone like Gregg Brandon who has quickly become a very successful head coach, $600,000 is a lot of money, but he knows that given the right timing and opportunity, he can make a lot more money. Sure, he could take $600,000 now and run a mediocre UNLV program for 5-6 years, but it would be more valuable to him in the long term to stay at BG for a year or two and continue proving his abilities. If he can show improvement and ability to deal with adversity he will have a lot more universities looking at him and throwing a lot more money his way.
So, in other words, he could take $600,000 for the next five years (we'll say), or stay here and only make $150,000 next year, but make $1 million+ for the subsequent 5 years. Do you see the logic there? Look at what is happening with Urban right now. He went to a program that gave him an opportunity to win for less than he was probably worth and now he's making over $2 million a year only two years later. Truth is, with the talent on this team (Jacobs, Sharon, Pope/Lane, etc.) BGSU is that opportunity for Brandon.
As much as I'd like to say it was the reason, I really don't think GB stayed for the family atmosphere or the scenery of Bowling Green. I believe it was the money and the opportunity to win. Imagine that, a coach staying at Bowling Green for the MONEY!
So, like I said, I don't want to be that guy (OK, well maybe I do!), but I told you so!
It should be a great year for BG football next year!
Attendance problems aside, Brandon isn't going to go to Florida to be and OC. That would be a step down, I don't care where you are going. Look at what happened with UNLV. They were looking for a head coach with head coaching experience, and that is why they were interested in Gregg Brandon. Even if you are at a Subelt Conf. school, it is still more valuable to be a head coach than an OC. There is so much more involved to being a HC than a coordinator (scheme, recruiting, motivation, etc., etc.). Brandon's stock will be much higher if he stays here and puts another winner on the field.
And as far as the money goes, yes $600,000 is a lot of money, but it is not as much as Brandon could be making in a year or two. Because most of us around here will probably never see $600,000 in our lives, we begin drooling at it and think that it is a foregone conclusion that everyone else will as well. But, for someone like Gregg Brandon who has quickly become a very successful head coach, $600,000 is a lot of money, but he knows that given the right timing and opportunity, he can make a lot more money. Sure, he could take $600,000 now and run a mediocre UNLV program for 5-6 years, but it would be more valuable to him in the long term to stay at BG for a year or two and continue proving his abilities. If he can show improvement and ability to deal with adversity he will have a lot more universities looking at him and throwing a lot more money his way.
So, in other words, he could take $600,000 for the next five years (we'll say), or stay here and only make $150,000 next year, but make $1 million+ for the subsequent 5 years. Do you see the logic there? Look at what is happening with Urban right now. He went to a program that gave him an opportunity to win for less than he was probably worth and now he's making over $2 million a year only two years later. Truth is, with the talent on this team (Jacobs, Sharon, Pope/Lane, etc.) BGSU is that opportunity for Brandon.
As much as I'd like to say it was the reason, I really don't think GB stayed for the family atmosphere or the scenery of Bowling Green. I believe it was the money and the opportunity to win. Imagine that, a coach staying at Bowling Green for the MONEY!
So, like I said, I don't want to be that guy (OK, well maybe I do!), but I told you so!
It should be a great year for BG football next year!
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I will let this rest once Urban names his staff. The point being is you reinforced every one of my points on why he would be a coordinator at Florida and not stay at Bowling Green, it's about the $$$.
Read Brandon's statement carefully, it does not mention the promise of next year or any day after the bowl game. It merely mentions coaching in the bowl game period. I will give you the fact that Gregg Brandon isn't the most quotable person in the world, but all the reasons are in place.
Here they are:
-Matt Leinhart, Reggie Bush, Alex Smith and Teddy Ginn aside . . . Chris Leak is a legitimate Heisman contender NOW.
-Ciatrick Faison. If Urban's staff can keep this huge and athletic RB in-house and away from the pro $$$, they are instantly top 7-10 in the country.
-16 starters return. They all liked playing for Ron Zook, but do you think that Urban would let a letdown like Mississippi State happen? I'm not placing all blame on Zook, I think he's a good coach, but Urban is a master motivator and will get these guys to perform.
-The schedule is at least "favorable." Tennessee and the Criminoles come to Gainsville with potential stumbling blocks at Tuskaloosa and Baton Rouge, but Urban has as much or more talent returning.
-Running the table at Florida off a year that will go 7-4 and bowl game will do more wonders and present greater financial gain for Gregg Brandon than would giving Wisconsin and Boise really tough games on the road and finishing 8-3 with the best QB, the two best returning wide receivers and two-time all MAC running back.
I don't know if its the humiliation of your head coach leaving to become an offensive coordinator or what, but I'm sure the OC job at Florida gets damn near $160,000 and there's no attendance issues to worry about and you're guiding potentially the most dangerous offense in the country. Sounds like a resume padder to me.
Read Brandon's statement carefully, it does not mention the promise of next year or any day after the bowl game. It merely mentions coaching in the bowl game period. I will give you the fact that Gregg Brandon isn't the most quotable person in the world, but all the reasons are in place.
Here they are:
-Matt Leinhart, Reggie Bush, Alex Smith and Teddy Ginn aside . . . Chris Leak is a legitimate Heisman contender NOW.
-Ciatrick Faison. If Urban's staff can keep this huge and athletic RB in-house and away from the pro $$$, they are instantly top 7-10 in the country.
-16 starters return. They all liked playing for Ron Zook, but do you think that Urban would let a letdown like Mississippi State happen? I'm not placing all blame on Zook, I think he's a good coach, but Urban is a master motivator and will get these guys to perform.
-The schedule is at least "favorable." Tennessee and the Criminoles come to Gainsville with potential stumbling blocks at Tuskaloosa and Baton Rouge, but Urban has as much or more talent returning.
-Running the table at Florida off a year that will go 7-4 and bowl game will do more wonders and present greater financial gain for Gregg Brandon than would giving Wisconsin and Boise really tough games on the road and finishing 8-3 with the best QB, the two best returning wide receivers and two-time all MAC running back.
I don't know if its the humiliation of your head coach leaving to become an offensive coordinator or what, but I'm sure the OC job at Florida gets damn near $160,000 and there's no attendance issues to worry about and you're guiding potentially the most dangerous offense in the country. Sounds like a resume padder to me.
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If you are right about the money (and you may not be; the job may pay even more)... no way would he take that job.OptionQB wrote:I'm sure the OC job at Florida gets damn near $160,000 and there's no attendance issues to worry about and you're guiding potentially the most dangerous offense in the country. Sounds like a resume padder to me.
No matter what Coach Brandon does after the GMAC Bowl Championship Trophy is handed to the Falcons,I for one appreciate what he is doing.I watched a head coach bail out on us in the 80's as we prepared for a bowl game.I saw Urban Liar bail out just hours after an"I am not going anywhere" speech to the team.
At least Gregg Brandon is enough of a stand up coach to finish his committment to the Falcons before leaving.
That being said,I also hope he stays for a long time.The way he handles problems in the football program should make us all proud.I would love to see a head coach like that handle my sons if they choose the road of college athletics.I hate it when coaches turn a blind eye to problems(i.e.,Toledo Correctional Instition).
Either way,I tip my hat to Coach Brandon.Go FALCONS!!Let's make it two bowl championships in a row!!!
At least Gregg Brandon is enough of a stand up coach to finish his committment to the Falcons before leaving.
That being said,I also hope he stays for a long time.The way he handles problems in the football program should make us all proud.I would love to see a head coach like that handle my sons if they choose the road of college athletics.I hate it when coaches turn a blind eye to problems(i.e.,Toledo Correctional Instition).
Either way,I tip my hat to Coach Brandon.Go FALCONS!!Let's make it two bowl championships in a row!!!
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Brandon is staying, and this is generally a good thing.
I think he is doing a good job, I have no issues with him, and I think he understands how to improve on what has already been done here. He is a much more low-key kind of person than Urban Meyer was, he is taller than Blackney was, he is a happy fella.
I don't have problems with coaches testing the waters within reason. With coaches I figure to have an interest in advancing in their career, it has to be expected.
However, I think how he flew off to Vegas was a bit clumsy. What I wish was that he had been more blunt and open about going. Make it a non-issue by making sure you don't appear to be sneaking around. Frame it in a context that demonstrates that you have the proper professional interest in advancing, but that it would have to be an exceptional opportunity. Keeping it on the QT only makes it seem like you want to go and are playing on the feelings of the locals.
Now I think Brandon strikes a very different image than Urban did. Brandon is softer spoken. He comes across as a guy you get a beer with more than the Darth Vader presence Urban conveys. It is that contrast which I think strikes interviewing schools the strongest.
In addition, two years after Urban left most of the national media is still referring to BGSU as his product. While some credit is being given to Brandon, the perception is that the Falcons are not yet his own. Given Urban's meteoric rise, that perception creates a cautious approach by schools considering Brandon. Other programs will want more proof it is Brandon that is now recruiting, and sustaining the success the Falcons are having.
If this were not true, we would have seen a much greater interest in Brandon nationally. That interest is sure to grow if the Falcons continue to improve and win.
I think he is doing a good job, I have no issues with him, and I think he understands how to improve on what has already been done here. He is a much more low-key kind of person than Urban Meyer was, he is taller than Blackney was, he is a happy fella.
I don't have problems with coaches testing the waters within reason. With coaches I figure to have an interest in advancing in their career, it has to be expected.
However, I think how he flew off to Vegas was a bit clumsy. What I wish was that he had been more blunt and open about going. Make it a non-issue by making sure you don't appear to be sneaking around. Frame it in a context that demonstrates that you have the proper professional interest in advancing, but that it would have to be an exceptional opportunity. Keeping it on the QT only makes it seem like you want to go and are playing on the feelings of the locals.
Now I think Brandon strikes a very different image than Urban did. Brandon is softer spoken. He comes across as a guy you get a beer with more than the Darth Vader presence Urban conveys. It is that contrast which I think strikes interviewing schools the strongest.
In addition, two years after Urban left most of the national media is still referring to BGSU as his product. While some credit is being given to Brandon, the perception is that the Falcons are not yet his own. Given Urban's meteoric rise, that perception creates a cautious approach by schools considering Brandon. Other programs will want more proof it is Brandon that is now recruiting, and sustaining the success the Falcons are having.
If this were not true, we would have seen a much greater interest in Brandon nationally. That interest is sure to grow if the Falcons continue to improve and win.
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Basically, I don't think Brandon wanted to make his interviewing for the job known publically and I don't blame him. It's a job and most folks, regardless of the job, don't go around broadcasting they are interviewing elsewhere, because if you stay, there can be unnecessary problems. Brandon did the right thing in discussing this with his players when he saw that it was necessary. In the end, the players are the ones that matter and they are OK with how he handled things.
On the other hand, I bet he learned alot about how a "head coach" can't go sneaking around, taking flights, and interviewing, without there being a leak. He will probably talk to Urban about how to be undercover the next time. You better believe while Urban was standing on National TV stating that he had not even talked to Florida, that he was not being truthful. He stated he was staying at Utah. One week later, he stated he was leaving. No way did he come to terms with Florida and consider ND in less than a week. I am not buying it. Why do you believe Florida dismissed Spurrier so quickly??? They had reason to have confidence elsewhere.
On the other hand, I bet he learned alot about how a "head coach" can't go sneaking around, taking flights, and interviewing, without there being a leak. He will probably talk to Urban about how to be undercover the next time. You better believe while Urban was standing on National TV stating that he had not even talked to Florida, that he was not being truthful. He stated he was staying at Utah. One week later, he stated he was leaving. No way did he come to terms with Florida and consider ND in less than a week. I am not buying it. Why do you believe Florida dismissed Spurrier so quickly??? They had reason to have confidence elsewhere.
